1 hour ago, Stan Fresh said:Did you not look at the images from just a few posts ago? Really?
Because you are flat out, completely, utterly, bizarrely, hilariously, and ridiculously wrong.
None of your images showed up.
1 hour ago, Stan Fresh said:Did you not look at the images from just a few posts ago? Really?
Because you are flat out, completely, utterly, bizarrely, hilariously, and ridiculously wrong.
None of your images showed up.
30 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:The impressive part is that he even got the movie count wrong. °_^
Episode 8 is the 9th major theatrical movie, because Rogue One counts.
17 hours ago, Nytwyng said:And as has been pointed out several times now, this was not a first for Star Wars.
I don't see god mentioned in canon articles on Wookiepedia. Other than the Ewoks wrongly thinking C3PO was a god I don't remember it from the previous movies.
21 minutes ago, pnewman15 said:Episode 8 is the 9th major theatrical movie, because Rogue One counts.
Yeah, and Star Wars Clone Wars and the Ewoks are not movies °_^
Fitting that you now write theatrical movie, just to be safe. ;-)
36 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:(I didn't count the Ewok movies, since those didn't have Star Wars in their title)
7 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:
That's not really a movie, though.
(But it's amusing that you're really trying to backpedal your mistake)
30 minutes ago, pnewman15 said:I don't see god mentioned in canon articles on Wookiepedia. Other than the Ewoks wrongly thinking C3PO was a god I don't remember it from the previous movies.
I don't see feces mentioned in canon articles on Wookiepedia either, but I assume everyone poops anyway...
Also, this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Deity
33 minutes ago, pnewman15 said:None of your images showed up.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyQPVoAA9wxW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdoLcUEAERxol.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyPPUIAA5GyW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd3-SVQAAjg82.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd39_VoAA2EJX.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyQXV4AA2hcS.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd7pCUQAANNS4.jpg
There you go.
1 hour ago, pnewman15 said:None of your images showed up.
I see all the images in my post just fine on both my PC and my phone.
27 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyQPVoAA9wxW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdoLcUEAERxol.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyPPUIAA5GyW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd3-SVQAAjg82.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd39_VoAA2EJX.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyQXV4AA2hcS.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd7pCUQAANNS4.jpg
There you go.
Thanks.
Did the images show up for you in my comment?
1 hour ago, pnewman15 said:I don't see god mentioned in canon articles on Wookiepedia. Other than the Ewoks wrongly thinking C3PO was a god I don't remember it from the previous movies.
Not sure why my comment about fuel having been a story point previously got pulled into the discussion of Star Wars deities, but, they, too are a “thing.”
To start, why would Threepio be programmed not to impersonate a deity if there were no deities worshipped?
Most everything else has also been mentioned already.
43 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:I don't see feces mentioned in canon articles on Wookiepedia either, but I assume everyone poops anyway...
Also, this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Deity
And, we’ve got canon feces and flatulence as of 1999, too. ![]()
29 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:Thanks.
Did the images show up for you in my comment?
Yes
1 hour ago, OddballE8 said:That's not really a movie, though.
(But it's amusing that you're really trying to backpedal your mistake)
I don't know what to say to you anymore. Merry Christmas.
Those 3 movies are not really movies. ![]()
Edit: Oh, but I really linked to the wrong place in the IMDB, hit the series instead of the theatrical released movie. ![]()
My bad. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1185834/?ref_=nv_sr_2
Edited by SEApocalypse
50 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:I don't know what to say to you anymore. Merry Christmas.
Those 3 movies are not really movies.
Edit: Oh, but I really linked to the wrong place in the IMDB, hit the series instead of the theatrical released movie.
My bad. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1185834/?ref_=nv_sr_2
Let's be honest here... That's just the pilot episode of an animated TV-show released as a full-length movie.
It's not "really" a movie. And it's definitely not one of "the" star wars movies.
(Otherwise, we'll have to start calling The Star Wars Holiday Special "a Star Wars movie" as well)
34 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:Let's be honest here... That's just the pilot episode of an animated TV-show released as a full-length movie.
It's not "really" a movie. And it's definitely not one of "the" star wars movies.
(Otherwise, we'll have to start calling The Star Wars Holiday Special "a Star Wars movie" as well)
Feature length.
Released to theaters.
Not run as episodes of the series.
Not included in the sets of the TV series.
Not sure why you wouldn’t consider that a movie.
Unless, that is, we’re also saying that X-Files: Fight the Future, X-Files: I Want To Believe, Serenity, Batman: Mask of the Phantasm or even Batman: The Movie from 1966 (just to name a few) aren’t movies, either. ![]()
To add another Batman Movie, Killing Joke.
Using a ship as a weapon while moving into hyperspace makes sense IF it's a last ditch move. Throw a headhunter at a corvette, sure knock yourself out. They're not exactly cheap. Capship vs Capship consider the zeroes involved, it's a one trick pony. I question the mass portion, sure a single X-Wing or Y-Wing won't take down a dreadnought but it should do okay on stuff up to a Corvette, maybe a size larger. Doing the same with current era bullets is a loose but valid comparison. It is possible to do comparable damage with a smaller but faster round if certain criteria are met. My guess would be that some treaty or another a few thousand years back made it do running ships into each other is highly frowned upon.
Why not throw asteroids at people? Again good thought, my first counter would again be a treaty. Babylon 5 had a comparable thing happened using mass driver cannons (no fist size slugs here) and that type of weapon had been outlawed seemingly for centuries.
27 minutes ago, ASCI Blue said:Why not throw asteroids at people?
The reasoning we hashed out here on the boards was that so much of this tactic relied on a mix of luck and ultra-precise timing of the jump that it wasn't really useful in anything but some very rare, very specific scenarios.
10 hours ago, OddballE8 said:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyQPVoAA9wxW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdoLcUEAERxol.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyPPUIAA5GyW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd3-SVQAAjg82.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd39_VoAA2EJX.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMdyQXV4AA2hcS.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRMd7pCUQAANNS4.jpg
There you go.
Now I can see them, thank you.
1) The Ewoks belief that C3P0 was a god was treated as wrong. No one ever said. "There are gods, so C3Po could be one."
2) Buddhism has ****, but not God so Han's reference shows nothing.
3) C3P0's being programmed not to impersonate a deity, is not evidence for or against deities.
4 & 5) I seem to have missed the line that Gungans have deities, and I could not find this belief mentioned on Star Wars.com. My apologies. That is still not evidence of monotheism, as "Godspeed" is.
6) C3PO is a droid. Droids thanking "the Maker" are not thanking a god, they are thanking the person who made them, Anakin Skywalker in this case.
7) A blessing does not require the existence of a god. The line does not say "divine blessing".
28 minutes ago, pnewman15 said:Now I can see them, thank you.
1) The Ewoks belief that C3P0 was a god was treated as wrong. No one ever said. "There are gods, so C3Po could be one."2) Buddhism has ****, but not God so Han's reference shows nothing.
3) C3P0's being programmed not to impersonate a deity, is not evidence for or against deities.
4 & 5) I seem to have missed the line that Gungans have deities, and I could not find this belief mentioned on Star Wars.com. My apologies. That is still not evidence of monotheism, as "Godspeed" is.
6) C3PO is a droid. Droids thanking "the Maker" are not thanking a god, they are thanking the person who made them, Anakin Skywalker in this case.
7) A blessing does not require the existence of a god. The line does not say "divine blessing".
Not to be contrarian or controversial, but...the existence of religions in our own world does not establish the existence of actual deities, but does establish the belief in them. It would appear that you're attempting to move the goalposts here, and require the Star Wars narrative to confirm the existence of actual deities (and other religious trappings) in their world before it can present any characters who express belief in them.
34 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:Not to be contrarian or controversial, but...the existence of religions in our own world does not establish the existence of actual deities, but does establish the belief in them. It would appear that you're attempting to move the goalposts here, and require the Star Wars narrative to confirm the existence of actual deities (and other religious trappings) in their world before it can present any characters who express belief in them.
That was not my intention. Real world belief in gods is not competing with provable real world force powers. Star Wars belief in gods would be competing with provable Star Wars galaxy force powers. The goal posts were moved by Star Wars.
6 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:The reasoning we hashed out here on the boards was that so much of this tactic relied on a mix of luck and ultra-precise timing of the jump that it wasn't really useful in anything but some very rare, very specific scenarios.
Fair enough, Star Wars generally relies on energy weapons on screen so finding a way to shove an asteroid size rock into a tube to fling at a planet may just not be practical. If we're talking about using a tractor beam of some kind plus moving a ship at high rates of speed and stopping the ship with the intent for the rock to keep moving would indeed take ultra-precise timing and luck.
48 minutes ago, pnewman15 said:That was not my intention. Real world belief in gods is not competing with provable real world force powers. Star Wars belief in gods would be competing with provable Star Wars galaxy force powers. The goal posts were moved by Star Wars.
No, they weren’t. Force powers - provable or written off as tall tales - do not prove or disprove the existence of one or more deities any more that having multiple religions (or multiple denominations of the same religion) in our world proves or disproves the existence of one or more deities.
7 hours ago, pnewman15 said:
2) Buddhism has ****, but not God so Han's reference shows nothing.
They do have gods though, even if there is no supreme God.
A couple of species seem to have religion and deities that aren't based on the force. Trandoshans and the Great Score Keeper springs to mind. So religions seem to exist around the galaxy but primarily among "primitive" species.
6 hours ago, ASCI Blue said:Fair enough, Star Wars generally relies on energy weapons on screen
Some of those that look like energy weapons might not even be ones! Remember the Separatist cruisers from the start of Episode 3? Their guns use shells and need reloading. Who knows what was going on there!
Alright! I did get to finally see The Last Jedi last night. Good movie. Not great and not good for the game, but still an enjoyable flick.
I'm standing with my earlier assessment, I'm not counting anything after ROTJ for my campaign because it will break the gaming mechanics.
I also still hate JJ Abrams because he doesn't know how to apply internally consistent physical 'laws' in his movies (or TV because he was so good with the "laws" of physics in Firefly). ![]()