Damage Deck - Never Tell Me the Odds!

By HanScottFirst, in X-Wing

Just curious: has anyone ever received a crit, and had the following happen:

Major explosion -> major explosion -> direct hit.

The odds are very small... I do not know how to calculate it, but all three cards would have to be in order, AND you would have to roll a hit (3/8s) twice...

Never Tell me the Odds! (Or if you are good at math and probabilities feel free!)

I would say that roughly 95% of the Major Explosions I've seen in the game did not roll a hit.

Lets see. There are 2 Major Explosion cards and 7 Direct hits.

(2/33)*(3/8)*(1/32)*(3/8)*(7/31)= 0.00006

0.006014% chance of this occurring just strictly drawing a damage card and then rolling the dice to trigger it. It does not include the possibility of getting the crit in the first place or any effect any other cards being removed from the deck.

So about 6 thousanths of a percent chance of this occurring.

edit for correctness

Edited by BadMotivator
1 minute ago, BadMotivator said:

Lets see. There are 2 Major Explosion cards and 7 Direct hits.

(2/33)*(.5)*(1/32)*(.5)*(7/31)= 0.00010692

0.010692% chance of this occurring just strictly drawing a damage card and then rolling the dice to trigger it. It does not include the possibility of getting the crit in the first place or any effect any other cards being removed from the deck.

So about 1 hundreth of a percent chance of this occurring.

Less. Major explosion trigger on a hit, not on a hit or crit. (3/8, not 4/8)

ahhh true

Never had that happen. I’v Had crits that didn’t affect the pilot it was given to, but never ME-ME-DH.

Holy snap! There's more chance of sucessfully navigating an asteroid field!!

I have had Ryad get one-shot from full shields by Fenn Rau with HHHHC, blank defense roll, use evade token, lose three shields, one crit to the hull, major explosion, direct hit. but i have not had the double major explosion supercombo!

It happened to a friend I was playing. He went to the bathroom, and I told him that I stacked his damage deck while he was away. Combat ensues, he takes crit and major explosion->major explosion->direct hit happens. I still don't think he believes that I never touched his damage deck.

I've seen and received the Major into Direct once... either way it's super devastating. Major into Major into Direct would be awful too.

I scored Major into Direct once, and it probably cost me the game.

I got super greedy with Dash after that, and went Focus/TL on him, rather than boosting. I was moving first, but if I'd boosted then, I probably would have avoided where Boba Fett's arc would have been, and wouldn't have gotten wiped off the table with Cluster Missiles.

My U-Wing got Asajj down to 1 hull remaining, and Boba down to like 4, however.

I’ve seen at least two or three Major Explosion—>Direct Hits.

Huh.

On 12/15/2017 at 6:37 PM, HanScottFirst said:

Just curious: has anyone ever received a crit, and had the following happen:

Major explosion -> major explosion -> direct hit.

Twice with undamaged Protectorate Fenn Rau.

Both times off an Asteroid hit and both times at a tournament. One game I was already losing so it just ended the game faster. The other game was down to an undamaged Fenn Rau vs. a badly damaged YV-666 and I was behind it - one hit and I would win. I cut too close to an asteroid, nicked it and rolled into 4 damage to end the game.

On 12/15/2017 at 5:45 PM, BadMotivator said:

Lets see. There are 2 Major Explosion cards and 7 Direct hits.

(2/33)*(3/8)*(1/32)*(3/8)*(7/31)= 0.00006

0.006014% chance of this occurring just strictly drawing a damage card and then rolling the dice to trigger it. It does not include the possibility of getting the crit in the first place or any effect any other cards being removed from the deck.

So about 6 thousanths of a percent chance of this occurring.

edit for correctness

Removing known cards can cut some of those numbers down. For each known damage card you'd drop the 33-32-31 down (unknown cards are unknown regardless where they are) although if you know those Major Explosions and Direct Hits are no longer in the deck then those numbers would go down too.

At an extreme you could get (2/3)(3/8)*(1/2)(3/8)*1 = .0468 or about 4.7% or 1/21. These still aren't great odds and they are if you just had those three cards left in your DD when everything else is known which is unlikely.

For those of you who prefer it in C3PO odds:

The odds of successfully causing 4 damage from one crit are 16,628 to ONE!

The odds of successfully causing 3 damage from one crit are 201 to one.

I've had my Fenn Rau one-shotted by an Academy Pilot from range 2 with crit-crit that turned out double direct.

Not exactly major-major-direct but odds for the shot and draw are small...

Yup i had that happen once. The last time i ever touched a decimator lol i was suuuuper salty about that sequence (yes, this is true despite being the internet)

Oicuun w/ all damage faceup and bump = damage, only damage he had at the time outside shields obviously missing. Bump, cause damage (couldnt avoid it anyway), take 1 faceup, major explosion -> major explosion -> double damage. Get shot, double damagex3. I literally died with half the required cards to kill me and i inflicted 4 of it to myself.

i havnt touched a decimator since. This was like 8 months ago or something like that lol. That pissed me off.

I've gotten two major explosions in a row in 2 separate games, but never a direct hit after, sigh!

At a regional I once dealt double crit to a shieldless Dengar with an autoblaster turret (he blanked out). He took direct hit, major explosion-->direct hit and died. Game.

It was In.Sane.

Sorry for the necro post, but I suffered this exact crit combo last night and had to share.

Courtesy of '1 fangy boi' (Fenn Rau).. I ended up with a total of 10 damage cards on my Y-wing.

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1 hour ago, BVRCH said:

Sorry for the necro post, but I suffered this exact crit combo last night and had to share.

Courtesy of '1 fangy boi' (Fenn Rau).. I ended up with a total of 10 damage cards on my Y-wing.

Buy your lottery tickets yet granted this card combo is still more likely?

It's barely a month old. As far as I'm concerned Necropost away provided everything is still relevant which it is.

I’ve seen major direct and major major something else, but I’ve never seen the dream combo.

I barrel rolled someone onto debris and he got Major Explosion-Major Explosion-Stunned Pilot and lost.

2 hours ago, StevenO said:

Buy your lottery tickets yet granted this card combo is still more likely?

Haha, or maybe get my opponent to buy one for me.

2 hours ago, StevenO said:

It's barely a month old. As far as I'm concerned Necropost away provided everything is still relevant which it is.

^^This!

I guess its better than starting a new thread.

1 hour ago, BVRCH said:

I guess its better than starting a new thread.

At least that way you don't have to constantly rehash the same stuff over and over again.