Just now, FTS Gecko said:

Don't worry about it @SEApocalypse, you don't make a great deal of sense at the best of times!

50cc's of burn cream to SEApocalypse stat.

3 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

I hate people that say irrigardless its moronic, its a double negative you plebs.

I also enjoy making people that say things like "its more better" cry.

Needless to say playing games while on discord with my European mates is always a laugh.

Total aside!

Irregardless is a word now because of use: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irregardless

It was considered improper language use at one point in time, a redundancy, meaning the exact same thing as regardless.

But because of accepted language use, and popularity, it's now in any respected dictionary (even if those dictionaries like the one above don't like it ). Irregardless and regardless are equally valid.

If you want a word to exist, get enough people to say it and then it will be accepted

8 minutes ago, KelRiever said:

If you want a word to exist, get enough people to say it and then it will be accepted

Rian verb

Def.

1. To take on a project or situation which should have an easy win and fail/to blow it. "The department was on target until he took over, he's Rianing it".

2. To waste or squander a once in a lifetime opportunity, to let something slip through one's fingers. "I was on a date last night and it was going really well, but I Rianed it. She's never going to see me again".

Oh my god, no new director can do anything right by you people.

This is worse than the forced "Jar Jar Abrams" meme.

Well, that's not true, is it? Gareth Edwards managed pretty well all things considered.

2 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Well, that's not true, is it? Gareth Edwards managed pretty well all things considered.

2 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Oh my god, no new director can do anything right by you people.

I liked the jokes, I thought the dialog was great, and I enjoyed it.

I hate that it was Episode VIII.

I am very interested to see what he does with his own trilogy, where it is his vision front to back.

3 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Well, that's not true, is it? Gareth Edwards managed pretty well all things considered.

If you mean, nearly crashing and burning because he wasn't ready to film back to back blockbusters, sure.

The main difference between Gareth and the other directors who have been fired, is that he acknowledged that the criticism was right. Everything I've read says that he was involved in the reshoots, if not the driving force behind them.

Gareth Edwards did an amazing job on Rogue One.

But Godzilla? That film wins for being less sucky than the prior film. That's about what I give it.

Just now, KelRiever said:

Gareth Edwards did an amazing job on Rogue One.

But Godzilla? That film wins for being less sucky than the prior film. That's about what I give it.

The very few scenes that actually had Godzilla in them were a ton of fun? Yeah, that's about all I've got to say about that one.

6 minutes ago, KelRiever said:

Gareth Edwards did an amazing job on Rogue One.

well, part of job

the studio redid the rest of it

2 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

well, part of job

the studio redid the rest of it

If only they'd done the same with The Least Jedi...

1 minute ago, FTS Gecko said:

If only they'd done the same with The Least Jedi...

they couldn't have, Vader is long dead by the time of the new trilogy

I would really like to know who's ultimate decision it was to remove Luke from the triology so **** early, though. I know Mark didn't want to bail out like Ford did.

28 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

I would really like to know who's ultimate decision it was to remove Luke from the triology so **** early, though. I know Mark d

idn't want to bail out like Ford did.

This, so much this. Mark Hamill's performance was fantastic, he and Carrie brought some real heart and soul to an otherwise heartless and soulless exercise. I really hope this isn't the last we see of him as Luke - and I'm not just talking Force ghost either, he showed there's so much he still has to offer.

His interviews about his disagreements with the director are heartbreaking.

13 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

they couldn't have, Vader is long dead by the time of the new trilogy

I would really like to know who's ultimate decision it was to remove Luke from the triology so **** early, though. I know Mark didn't want to bail out like Ford did.

It was likely Rian's. Mark's said a few times he disagreed with Rian's direction of his character.

I'm sure he'll be a force ghost in the next movie for a few scenes. So, no worries there.

I'm ok with them taking the focus of the story away from the OT gang and putting it on the new scooby gang. This trilogy should be about them, and less about Luke, Leia and Han.

I've written about the themes and character arcs in TLJ; might interest you guys: https://www.patreon.com/posts/star-wars-last-15994181

1 minute ago, kris40k said:

I'm ok with them taking the focus of the story away from the OT gang and putting it on the new scooby gang. This trilogy should be about them, and less about Luke, Leia and Han.

I completely agree, but they need to make the new characters interesting first. At the end of TFA the only new character that was even remotely interesting was Finn, and he lost that status after he redid his development arc in TLJ. Now the only character that is somewhat interesting to me is Kylo Ren, because despite the fact they had to turn Luke's greatest strength into his weakness to get there, it did serve to make Kylo more interesting.

Sorry, I think all the new characters are interesting.

Rey is fantastic, so is Finn. Love Poe, love Rose. Ren and Hux are great. I'll miss Phasma but how she went is absolutely fine with me.

I love Maz too, and I think they needed to put a cameo in this film of her if she's going to matter. But I wasn't a fan of the cameo. It didn't bother me just was eh. I still love that character too, though.

Skipped the whole lot of everything because I finally got to see it today.

It was not the best Star Wars experience ever. It wasn’t the worst. It is solidly middle of the pack, and it’s flaws are more a commentary on how cinema has changed over the years as opposed to anything else.

I feel like it was trying to do too much in one film, and a lot of things wound up rushed. I’d cut the whole code breaker detour entirely, make the fleet running out of gas story a lot shorter and then move on to other things. If we spent more time at the rebel base (and using old t47s instead of the who knows what they were) and less time in space trying to get there, I think it could be both a shorter movie and still an entertaining one. I wish they fleshed out more character than they did and delivered less total number of events.

Honestly, it felt like a marvel movie on Star Wars more than a Star Wars movie. Which, to what I said before, is more critical of filmmaking these days as opposed to actual Star Wars canon or not. I could be nit picky about some of our heroes choices and why I don’t like them (or did like them in some cases), but that is not the point. It’s more the how it was told and less about what was told.

6 hours ago, Darth Meanie said:

I liked the jokes, I thought the dialog was great, and I enjoyed it.

I hate that it was Episode VIII.

I am very interested to see what he does with his own trilogy, where it is his vision front to back.

You know, that's fair.

3 hours ago, KelRiever said:

Sorry, I think all the new characters are interesting.

Rey is fantastic, so is Finn. Love Poe, love Rose. Ren and Hux are great. I'll miss Phasma but how she went is absolutely fine with me.

I love Maz too, and I think they needed to put a cameo in this film of her if she's going to matter. But I wasn't a fan of the cameo. It didn't bother me just was eh. I still love that character too, though.

Rey is such a bland uninteresting character not even a good actress could salvage, she's an OP Mary sue that's just joyless to watch.

Finn is a traitor coward who's only motivation is getting laid, he had his opportunity to come good and rose stole it from him.

Poe is just baffling it makes no sense that someone so reckless could get that high in command regardless of skill, he should of been jailed at the least more realise shot.

Only kylo had any real development and he's the antagonist.

Disagree about Finn. Self sacrifice is a form of running.

"Don't fight what you hate, save what you love" I think is one of greatest ideas that should be applied to the main saga movies.

The only character I dislike, and only minorly, is Finn.

Finn being a pacifist coward, who has moments of bravery, is a bit problematic. He's not very realistic of a character.

I would want Finn to have, instead of being what he is, been a hard bitten Storm Trooper veteran. A capable soldier who, prior to the mission on Jakku, had been a fanatical follower of the First Order. However, when he is ordered to execute the helpless civilians he realizes that they are the bad guys. Later on he helps Finn escape because he can't fly ships.

This would also make his insider knowledge and his general character more realistic. With the First Order brainwashing their soldiers from childhood, it is highly unbelievable that someone like Finn would have made it to be a stormtrooper. He really never would have made it out of whatever training the First Order does. Its more believable for a jaded veteran to grow a conscience over a truly horrible act then for some panzy to go unnoticed in the ranks for, I assume, years.

15 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Rian verb

Def.

1. To take on a project or situation which should have an easy win and fail/to blow it. "The department was on target until he took over, he's Rianing it".

2. To waste or squander a once in a lifetime opportunity, to let something slip through one's fingers. "I was on a date last night and it was going really well, but I Rianed it. She's never going to see me again".

1. I would call that Treverrowing it. 2. Is definitely Tranking it. Lordmillering also works, though Trank burnt a LOT more bridges.

10 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

This, so much this. Mark Hamill's performance was fantastic, he and Carrie brought some real heart and soul to an otherwise heartless and soulless exercise. I really hope this isn't the last we see of him as Luke - and I'm not just talking Force ghost either, he showed there's so much he still has to offer.

His interviews about his disagreements with the director are heartbreaking.

WEW that is some MANIPULATIVE NARRATIVE DRIVING EDITING.

16 hours ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Oh my god, no new director can do anything right by you people.

This is worse than the forced "Jar Jar Abrams" meme.

10 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

This, so much this. Mark Hamill's performance was fantastic, he and Carrie brought some real heart and soul to an otherwise heartless and soulless exercise. I really hope this isn't the last we see of him as Luke - and I'm not just talking Force ghost either, he showed there's so much he still has to offer.

His interviews about his disagreements with the director are heartbreaking.

"No one waited 30 years to see a Luke Skywalker that just gave up."
- Kwampster 900

Fear not.

There's always another Galaxy.