Well given this new information has left me thinking how to counter this?

I think the best option is Dash hard 2 right, and then br left. This should put dash at a spot where Kylo is forced to Boost first instead of Br and takes him out of the fight for that round. That leaves the outrider and gunboat trading shots through a rock, so unless someone’s dice fail horribly little damage output would be achieved.

Wouldn't the initial 4K just clear then without having to adjust first?

40 minutes ago, kris40k said:

Wouldn't the initial 4K just clear then without having to adjust first?

It would, but:

a) Kylo has no shot

b) will be stressed

c) have no action

d) will get lit by the presumed HLC

3 minutes ago, thatdave said:

It would, but:

a) Kylo has no shot

b) will be stressed

c) have no action

d) will get lit by the presumed HLC

a) Gunboat has a shot, and it's pretty close on whether the BR gets him out of Kylo's arc

b) I think that's a situation you're well prepared for when you dial in a 4K

c) Adv.Sensors would like a word with you

d) Will have his focus token, autothrusters, and title if he needs to.

Yeah, just eyeballing it, I'm thinking that he may even be in Dash's range 1 bubble, but otherwise, he can Focus before the 4K, Title for reroll, AT on defense. Probably would be Dash getting lit up. Just to be clear, I was referring to:

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I think the best option is Dash hard 2 right, and then br left.

Edit: If you weren't going to be in Range 1 and he didn't want to AS Focus before the 4K, you could Primed Thrusters to BR or boost into range 1 to prevent any shot from Dash.

What happens if instead of Kylo it is Ten Numb with Advanced Sensors + PTL + B-Wing/E2 with Nien Nunb crew and this same situation. Does he dial the in a K-Turn, then take the 2 straight, which is green because of Nien Nunb and then have no stress?

16 minutes ago, Knave Squawk said:

What happens if instead of Kylo it is Ten Numb with Advanced Sensors + PTL + B-Wing/E2 with Nien Nunb crew and this same situation. Does he dial the in a K-Turn, then take the 2 straight, which is green because of Nien Nunb and then have no stress?

No; the 2-straight for an illegal red cannot be changed in any way.

2 hours ago, DR4CO said:

No; the 2-straight for an illegal red cannot be changed in any way.

yup, right there in the FAQ clear as day, thank you sir

15 hours ago, Sparklelord said:

a) Gunboat has a shot, and it's pretty close on whether the BR gets him out of Kylo's arc

b) I think that's a situation you're well prepared for when you dial in a 4K

c) Adv.Sensors would like a word with you

d) Will have his focus token, autothrusters, and title if he needs to.

A) No, it doesn't. From the final resting place of the Gunboat and Dash, Dash is easily out of arc.

B) Granted, but no shot still if you stick with it.

C) Again, granted - but the only beneficial repositioning is a straight boost. A focus token would be the obvious choice here.

D) See C)

E) all moot as apparently Kris was referring to something else lol

Oops, double post.

On 12/13/2017 at 7:28 AM, CRCL said:

but the only ship that could really take advantage of it was PtL + Adv Sensors Corran and he's not been very common.

An IG with PtL and Advanced Sensors has the same option. I've flown an IG-88C and Asajj list maybe 8-10 times over the last two months and while I never used the straight white 2 with the IG, it was something I would keep in mind every time I slooped or K-Turned (mainly because I didn't want to absent-mindedly PtL first and then not be able to do the sloop or K-turn but I was aware that I had the 2 available to me and debated on using it a few times).

Technically the Kylo was prepared for this possible outcome

he stressed himself out to cancel the 4k. He knew what he was doing.

On 12/13/2017 at 4:12 PM, thatdave said:

It would, but:

a) Kylo has no shot

b) will be stressed

c) have no action

d) will get lit by the presumed HLC

Kylo could boost forward with advanced Sensors, which would basically be equal to a 6-K. That should easily allow him to maintain arc, and might even still end up in the HLC's donut hole.

Also, Kylo has primed thrusters, so he could still boost and/or barrel roll after performing the k-turn, and can use PTL to boost/BR as much as he wants until he ends with 3 stress tokens.

On 12/13/2017 at 10:58 PM, CRCL said:

Yeah it was just an interesting (a least to me) rules interaction I was thinking about. Technically it's been possible since the FAQ change came out, but the only ship that could really take advantage of it was PtL + Adv Sensors Corran and he's not been very common.

I'm not sure your opponent will appreciate it if you pull this off against them

I wouldn't say Corran was the only one. Anything with an EPT and Systems slot can do it.

I use this rules loop hole to give my U-wing a pseudo 2k turn. Adv. sensors into expert handling, then reveal a 0 stop (which becomes a white 2), I rotate the U-wing, then execute the 2 straight.

4 hours ago, BVRCH said:

I wouldn't say Corran was the only one. Anything with an EPT and Systems slot can do it.

I use this rules loop hole to give my U-wing a pseudo 2k turn. Adv. sensors into expert handling, then reveal a 0 stop (which becomes a white 2), I rotate the U-wing, then execute the 2 straight.

No this doesn't work. They updated the rules to block it 3 FAQs ago by saying that the only triggers you can use on red-while-stressed are ones that change the move or difficulty.

6 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

No this doesn't work. They updated the rules to block it 3 FAQs ago by saying that the only triggers you can use on red-while-stressed are ones that change the move or difficulty.

I see. I just found the piece you speak of in the FAQ.