[Mafia] Rebel Runners - Day 1

By Onidsen, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

25 minutes ago, Visovics said:

I'm actually thinking that observers' people are having the most fun...

you thinking this scum team would do their nk just to poke fun in the game?

Maybe. But Gink also had a powerful role. Maybe they got spooked? I havent really understood any of their kills so far.

Just now, Ardaedhel said:

I did, but Vis isn't asking for a claim here, it's rhetorical.

Whoops, misread that

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

Maybe. But Gink also had a powerful role. Maybe they got spooked? I havent really understood any of their kills so far.

I felt that at least for 2 kills, they did it for making some fun, not like "he's a threat", but more like "that'd be a funny kill to do"

5 minutes ago, Visovics said:

I felt that at least for 2 kills, they did it for making some fun, not like "he's a threat", but more like "that'd be a funny kill to do"

Which ones?

I mean Gink obviously.

5 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Which ones?

Feel like Gink after Ebon’s suicide rage, and also feel like Eldo was the responsible for killing Eldo’s worst nightmare

14 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Feel like Gink after Ebon’s suicide rage, and also feel like Eldo was the responsible for killing Eldo’s worst nightmare

Ahhhh.

Funnily I just saw on a re-read.

I vote Toad:

Toad retaliates and votes me with “I’m not scum, you’re scum”

Cninj votes me with a simple sentence, that I’m scum

I vote Wig:

Wig retaliates and votes me with “You’re the scum”

Cninj votes me with a simple sentence that I am scum trying to save other scum.

Coincidences?... I don’t think so

10 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Funnily I just saw on a re-read.

I vote Toad:

Toad retaliates and votes me with “I’m not scum, you’re scum”

Cninj votes me with a simple sentence, that I’m scum

I vote Wig:

Wig retaliates and votes me with “You’re the scum”

Cninj votes me with a simple sentence that I am scum trying to save other scum.

Coincidences?... I don’t think so

Could you drop the quotes on these. I’d like to take a deeper look for myself.

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

Could you drop the quotes on these. I’d like to take a deeper look for myself.

I’m on phone so it’s kind of annoying to do it, but they are pages 9-10 for the Toad and Cninj and 43 for the Wig and Cninj.

Not trying to make any point here, just a few quotes relating to Vis' thoughts.

On 12/16/2017 at 10:43 AM, CaribbeanNinja said:

Yeah gonna go with this is scum covering a vote.

##vote Visovics

On 12/28/2017 at 5:08 AM, Visovics said:

HOW WAS I THINKING THERE WAS STILL A DAY!

##vote WigTii

That post killed it, at the mention of a "blunder" you immediatelly go on about correcting mistakes and cleaning up a mess but that "blunder" was being taken as a possible reason for towness by some and in no way looks as big a mistake or mess like you make it sound. Seriously to me it looks more like you saw you being associated with a slip up and is trying to simply make yourself look town by "admiting it looks scummy"... I'm just not buying it...

On 12/28/2017 at 6:15 AM, CaribbeanNinja said:

Right now I'm torn between voting for either GNiPs or WigTii.

GNIPs - The full story is yet to emerge. JJ hasn't answered Gink's question. My hesitation is that GNIPs tends to back himself into these situations even when town. (It happened when he, Truthiness and I were in a masonry together last.)

WigTii - Gink wasn't the only one that noticed his "Hey just checking in" posts. His last post is super sketchy in my opinion. My hesitation is that as Raj pointed out, if he is scum, that was a baller move by him earlier in the game.

On 12/28/2017 at 9:16 AM, WigTii said:

I've posted like this before and my towniness was proven true, without exception. So, today it's scummy?

You are the scum, not me.

##vote Visovics

On 12/28/2017 at 10:18 AM, CaribbeanNinja said:

##vote Visovics.

My thought is that he wagered the vote would jump on Nips. He pushed on WigTii who is probably town.

On 12/16/2017 at 2:11 AM, Visovics said:

So

##vote TheToad

Your freudian slip wouldn’t have looked as scummy, had you not been forcing your posts now referencing yourself in the third person. To me that looks like scum trying to make a mistake be just their playstyle, and so you get the vote

On 12/16/2017 at 8:46 AM, TheToad said:

Thanks for the vote Vis. Now I know where mines going.

##Vote Visovics

I give Gink the pass cause he’s just being Gink... as I’ve already explained that him calling what I said a Freudian slip was a stretch. Gink likes to take jabs at people.

Rajam also gets a pass because he’s just trying to shake things up with his particular play style. Trying to team up with Gink is a solid play.

But you Vis... trying to give strength to a weak argument and get a lynch train rolling... that earns my vote

These are back in D1, and I’ve written on them. At the time, I agreed with Toad. The waters muddied up some as I saw a connection with Gink, but with Ginkapo gone the way of the Dodo I find myself back on square one.

On 12/28/2017 at 0:16 PM, WigTii said:

I've posted like this before and my towniness was proven true, without exception. So, today it's scummy?

You are the scum, not me.

##vote Visovics

Its telling of how ****** this game is that I’m willing to even consider Wiigti given his own gaffe and subsequent mod interaction. Although, really, I’m not, and retaliatory vote is retaliatory. I am merely willing to not immediately vote anyone pushing him.

On 12/28/2017 at 1:18 PM, CaribbeanNinja said:

##vote Visovics.

My thought is that he wagered the vote would jump on Nips. He pushed on WigTii who is probably town.

This looks like shoddy reasoning to me. And the whole Ovi/Ninja fued thing with the Eldos and such warrants a bit more examination. I need to re-examine the exchange with Ninja and Gink in I believe D2.

On 12/28/2017 at 1:50 PM, TheToad said:

##unvote

##vote Vis

didnt realize he was a viable option... I like that better then Wig

Yesterday at deadline tho, I’m not thrilled with Toads activity. Twice he posts some variation of “uh guys I dunno about this” and then drops a vote on Wiig, before flopping to Vis. And it could be completely town, because Nips claim made him extremely valuable, and without JJ’s input as to whether he ran it really came down to whether you felt Nips was bluffing or finally claiming his own role. It could also be that he knew Nips was going to flop town and wanted absolutely nothing to do with that train.

Which brings me back to @JJs Juggernaut , please let me know whats the word on what happened.

In my defense, remember that now we know both Gink and Ebon are confirmed town. I promise you that I'm not that good to know when they would be targeting me. :)

20 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

In my defense, remember that now we know both Gink and Ebon are confirmed town. I promise you that I'm not that good to know when they would be targeting me. :)

I dont understand the point you’re making. Break it down for me like you would for someone whose inlaws have taken his child for the weekend so he can smoke and watch star wars.

3 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

Same, I was kinda crossing my fingers that it would be me to go tonight so I could watch everybody pulling out their hair at what dumbasses we are.

@WigTii : claim time.

Well, it certainly looks like we townies are on our way to screwing the pooch this game.

I will confirm again that I am a Runner .

Here is my original confirmation for reference:

On ‎12‎/‎27‎/‎2017 at 8:19 PM, WigTii said:

I am indeed town. And that's all I'm going to say. I don't see a need to reveal my role at this time.

I still do not see a need for revealing my specific role, and I won't until circumstances warrant its reveal.

1 hour ago, Madaghmire said:

These are back in D1, and I’ve written on them. At the time, I agreed with Toad. The waters muddied up some as I saw a connection with Gink, but with Ginkapo gone the way of the Dodo I find myself back on square one.

Its telling of how ****** this game is that I’m willing to even consider Wiigti given his own gaffe and subsequent mod interaction. Although, really, I’m not, and retaliatory vote is retaliatory. I am merely willing to not immediately vote anyone pushing him.

This looks like shoddy reasoning to me. And the whole Ovi/Ninja fued thing with the Eldos and such warrants a bit more examination. I need to re-examine the exchange with Ninja and Gink in I believe D2.

Yesterday at deadline tho, I’m not thrilled with Toads activity. Twice he posts some variation of “uh guys I dunno about this” and then drops a vote on Wiig, before flopping to Vis. And it could be completely town, because Nips claim made him extremely valuable, and without JJ’s input as to whether he ran it really came down to whether you felt Nips was bluffing or finally claiming his own role. It could also be that he knew Nips was going to flop town and wanted absolutely nothing to do with that train.

You’re right I didn’t know what to do... I didn’t like voting for Nips, he claimed a power role... one that would of helped us immensely. Instead of helping me come to a conclusion with evidence you just pushed me... and I voted Wig to tie it up, I was going for a no lynch. Then I saw that Vis was an option and I liked that better than both Wig and Nips.

Thats why I’m going to...

vote##Mad... for trying to push me into voting for nips

12 minutes ago, WigTii said:

I still do not see a need for revealing my specific role, and I won't until circumstances warrant its reveal.

Possible lylo. Risk of dying at night is none if they win by lynching a town.

7 minutes ago, TheToad said:

Then I saw that Vis was an option and I liked that better than both Wig and Nips.

Anyone is an option if you can make a good case in due time.

29 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Anyone is an option if you can make a good case in due time.

And I didn’t see a good case for Nips...

2 minutes ago, TheToad said:

And I didn’t see a good case for Nips...

Me neither, so I looked back and made a case, which only gnips followed and what sparked me to become “a viable option”. If you don’t see a good case you don’t believe in this late in the game, look back and push for someone that you feel is scum, don’t just wait around for an option that you feel may be better than the one at the moment

4 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

Going strictly on that snarky kill : I'm gonna say that's a @CaribbeanNinja move.

This is not an accusation. I just want it on record that I this is something I think Gene would do. :)

4 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

I'm pretty sure it was strictly to be cheeky . They've pretty much got the game on lock at this point anyway, assuming there were four of them to start with. We have to be right every day for the next three days, best I can tell.

4 hours ago, Visovics said:

I'm actually thinking that observers' people are having the most fun...

you thinking this scum team would do their nk just to poke fun in the game?

Asks.

3 hours ago, Visovics said:

I felt that at least for 2 kills, they did it for making some fun , not like "he's a threat", but more like "that'd be a funny kill to do"

Then knows.

I'm guessing on these two. They come out and "know" how the scum "feel"

That and my other reasons for voting Vis from before (he has been quick to be 2nd on a jumping in my opinion.

##vote Visovics.

On 17/12/2017 at 10:54 PM, Visovics said:

If we should truly hear them, then why not go for Eldo? Motive is there, get rid of his worst nightmare

I was thinking on that since it happened the first time @CaribbeanNinja , the fact that Gink was now killed made me re-take it seriously and as an actual possibility.

6 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

(he has been quick to be 2nd on a jumping in my opinion.

Yet you also vote me scummy when I make a case, isn’t life wonderful? If I follow I’m scum covering, if I make a case I’m drawing away from the other scum. Since the latter was already proven wrong, want to lynch me just to prove the first one?

9 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Asks.

Then knows.

I was asking you, the guy who I suspected did the kill. Not thought to consider on how I may have been trying to get a response from you and how you’d react to it? Then Mad arrives and ignoring him would be unusual and maybe ruin the plan, so I decided to be straightforward about it

P.S.: sorry for many posts, my phone apparently can’t handle the complexity of more quotes on longer posts with text in between without ruining everything