1 minute ago, Visovics said:Trap? Or actual hint?
God I have no idea. Both? Neither?
[Mafia] Rebel Runners - Day 1
So @WigTii, 5 hours, any conclusions or you just reminding us that you exist? Would not have realized how often you do this had not been Gink...
I’m reading Gink as town, so depending on JJ’s answer I’m willing to test it see if Gnips was the redirected kill
I've been around here for a few hours.
10 hours ago, Madaghmire said:Wiigti’s Wonder-Blunder.
I said third times a charm at the beginning of this game. At least I'm consistent. 
Honestly, my blunder has dampened my enthusiasm for this game a bit. But, since I'm one to make lemonade from lemons, let me see what I can create from my mistake.
First, let me end some speculation. I am indeed town. And that's all I'm going to say. I don't see a need to reveal my role at this time. And some may argue I'm not helping my fellow townies by sharing my faction, and ultimately that may very well be. But right now, I'm cleaning up my mess, and I'll live with the consequences of my actions whatever they may be.
I've read Ginks dissertation on Ghost. And, I've read Ghost's response. And, I'm going to wait until Ghost says more before I consider the validity of Gink's argument.
That said, right now the only words I trust are those that have been spoken by the dead. I can't accept any argument put forward by anyone who has claimed a black role of pilot, scout, hacker, or investigator as completely truthful as these four roles can be played by either faction. So, Ghost has less to prove to me compared to Gink.
Additionally, I see the drivers of this game as Gink and Ebon. Both have claimed black roles, so I view their exchanges with skepticism as both could be the very scum we're looking for. Everything that has transpired between the two could be part of an elaborate deception engineered to manipulate opinions so the game can be steered towards an Imperial win. Yes, this is speculation on my part, but it's plausible speculation given the set up for the game and how Gink and Ebon have dominated much of the game's conversation thus far.
I've said enough for now I think. Of course, my thoughts are subject to change as the game evolves.
1 hour ago, WigTii said:
I've been around here for a few hours.
I said third times a charm at the beginning of this game. At least I'm consistent.
Honestly, my blunder has dampened my enthusiasm for this game a bit. But, since I'm one to make lemonade from lemons, let me see what I can create from my mistake.
Thats a good attitude. An honest mistake is an honest mistake, and I hope you know that while I’ll keep teasing you about it for the remainder of this game, its all in fun. If you flip scum tho, I’m gonna policy vote your *** in the future for anything that even comes remotely close to this.
1 hour ago, WigTii said:First, let me end some speculation. I am indeed town. And that's all I'm going to say. I don't see a need to reveal my role at this time. And some may argue I'm not helping my fellow townies by sharing my faction, and ultimately that may very well be. But right now, I'm cleaning up my mess, and I'll live with the consequences of my actions whatever they may be.
I don’t think anyone really had much doubt that you’re town. And I agree, you shouldn’t be revealing your role unless you can derive real value from the reveal.
QuoteI've read Ginks dissertation on Ghost. And, I've read Ghost's response. And, I'm going to wait until Ghost says more before I consider the validity of Gink's argument.
I’m more interested in what JJ has to say, honestly. Ghost has said his piece and wont be on again till right up on the deadline. JJ meanwhile hasnt even checked in today, has he?
QuoteThat said, right now the only words I trust are those that have been spoken by the dead. I can't accept any argument put forward by anyone who has claimed a black role of pilot, scout, hacker, or investigator as completely truthful as these four roles can be played by either faction. So, Ghost has less to prove to me compared to Gink.
I’m all for considering the source, but you should evaluate Ginks argument on its face, at the least.
QuoteAdditionally, I see the drivers of this game as Gink and Ebon. Both have claimed black roles, so I view their exchanges with skepticism as both could be the very scum we're looking for. Everything that has transpired between the two could be part of an elaborate deception engineered to manipulate opinions so the game can be steered towards an Imperial win. Yes, this is speculation on my part, but it's plausible speculation given the set up for the game and how Gink and Ebon have dominated much of the game's conversation thus far.
Both have been vocal, but as I’ve stated previously if these guys are working together they deserve to win. If both are scum then Ebon has been trying to bus his teams hacker since d1 (I believe, I’d have to check that.) Thats some ballsy shizz. Thats not even coordinated, assuming I’m remembering when ebon started pushing “kill gink” correctly.
Hmmm. Gink, I'm going to need more that that to answer your question. Maybe I missed it in my hasty read-through, why do you want to know?
Also, using forum activity for anything ingame is just silly. I didn't have time last night to check through here. I barely have time tonight. I'm back to working 10 hour shifts for the remainder of the holidays.
I don't trust you gink. I trust Ebon, even though for some reason he keeps putting me on his scum list...
Also, if we really want to talk about inactivity. @CaribbeanNinja has probably posted the least of anyone since his day 1 performance. Wigtii seems unwilling to commit to a plan yet. Vis is following Gink.
I'll try and check in once or twice before work tomorrow.
Yeah sorry. Lots of family this week. I’ve looked in but haven’t got a chance to post until now.
3 hours ago, WigTii said:So, Ghost has less to prove to me compared to Gink.
Why is this?
Also i’ve read the day twice now and i’m not understanding what was Wigs blunder?
1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:Why is this?
Also i’ve read the day twice now and i’m not understanding what was Wigs blunder?
His slipup not understanding the night kill causing psudo mod confirmation of him being town.
4 hours ago, JJs Juggernaut said:Hmmm. Gink, I'm going to need more that that to answer your question. Maybe I missed it in my hasty read-through, why do you want to know?
Because he redirected me to you, and wants to see if that prevented the night kill. If you ran, then that would imply that I am the killer. However, it actually doesn't prove anything, and as I am town, it would merely be a useless lynch.
I'm for a few minutes now, but not for very long.
3 hours ago, JJs Juggernaut said:His slipup not understanding the night kill causing psudo mod confirmation of him being town.
Which given his last post I no longer buy. @Madaghmire read Wigtii's last post without that assumption.
Jj. Cheers for nothing.
If you had logged on last night and queried why I asked I would have accepting of your want for more information. However now? You managed to skim through, miss the lack of night kill, miss that I redirected GNips to you, and miss the connection. The player who logs in with less than 12 hours to go does not get the benefit of asking questions, I am sorry but life came first for you (which to be fair I can respect, doesnt change it though).
@WigTiiwhy no vote yesterday?
14 hours ago, TheToad said:I’m really curious as to what Nippy was up to at night... Gink claims to have redirected Nippy and there was no kill at night...
How do you feel about Gink now?
9 hours ago, WigTii said:
I've been around here for a few hours.
I said third times a charm at the beginning of this game. At least I'm consistent.
Honestly, my blunder has dampened my enthusiasm for this game a bit. But, since I'm one to make lemonade from lemons, let me see what I can create from my mistake.
First, let me end some speculation. I am indeed town. And that's all I'm going to say. I don't see a need to reveal my role at this time. And some may argue I'm not helping my fellow townies by sharing my faction, and ultimately that may very well be. But right now, I'm cleaning up my mess, and I'll live with the consequences of my actions whatever they may be.
I've read Ginks dissertation on Ghost. And, I've read Ghost's response. And, I'm going to wait until Ghost says more before I consider the validity of Gink's argument.
That said, right now the only words I trust are those that have been spoken by the dead. I can't accept any argument put forward by anyone who has claimed a black role of pilot, scout, hacker, or investigator as completely truthful as these four roles can be played by either faction. So, Ghost has less to prove to me compared to Gink.
Additionally, I see the drivers of this game as Gink and Ebon. Both have claimed black roles, so I view their exchanges with skepticism as both could be the very scum we're looking for. Everything that has transpired between the two could be part of an elaborate deception engineered to manipulate opinions so the game can be steered towards an Imperial win. Yes, this is speculation on my part, but it's plausible speculation given the set up for the game and how Gink and Ebon have dominated much of the game's conversation thus far.
I've said enough for now I think. Of course, my thoughts are subject to change as the game evolves.
What exactly did you think your blunder was?...
I'm back, earlier than expected.
8 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I'm back, earlier than expected.
Nothing happened. But dont worry we have 6 hours till the deadline
HOW WAS I THINKING THERE WAS STILL A DAY!
##vote WigTii
That post killed it, at the mention of a "blunder" you immediatelly go on about correcting mistakes and cleaning up a mess but that "blunder" was being taken as a possible reason for towness by some and in no way looks as big a mistake or mess like you make it sound. Seriously to me it looks more like you saw you being associated with a slip up and is trying to simply make yourself look town by "admiting it looks scummy"... I'm just not buying it...
I dont understand Vis. Can you roll that back for me?
JJ, did you or did you not run last night?
1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:I dont understand Vis. Can you roll that back for me?
JJ, did you or did you not run last night?
Well, his blunder being simply asking if there was a night-kill, I don’t possibly see why he needs all this for justifying it...he refers to it as a mistake, a mess he’s going to clean up, and that it dampened his enthusiasm for the game? He makes it sound much more like he slipped somewhere, but he never directly refers to what it is, as if he looked to where he slipped up, but didn’t find it, so plays along and tries to build town cred for himself by admiting it and crediting it as a mistake. That’s how I read it, and for me it looks scummy
Right now I'm torn between voting for either GNiPs or WigTii.
GNIPs - The full story is yet to emerge. JJ hasn't answered Gink's question. My hesitation is that GNIPs tends to back himself into these situations even when town. (It happened when he, Truthiness and I were in a masonry together last.)
WigTii - Gink wasn't the only one that noticed his "Hey just checking in" posts. His last post is super sketchy in my opinion. My hesitation is that as Raj pointed out, if he is scum, that was a baller move by him earlier in the game.
Why wouldn't JJ answer the question?
16 hours ago, Onidsen said:10 Players, 6 to Hammer:
@GhostofNobodyInParticular - (1) Ginkapo
@TheToad -
@Ginkapo - (1) EbonHawk
@WigTii - (1) Visovics
On 26/12/2017 at 6:58 PM, Onidsen said:
Ok, Im taking my daughter to the museum. I’ll check in as much as possible, but who knows how often I’ll be able to.
I’m going to
##vote gnips
atm because I think its our highest percentage play. But someone please put my name in so it alerts me if JJ answers, especially if he answers “I didnt run” because then I will definetely want to swap my vote.
We have 4 hours left. . . I do not want to claim so soon, but with majority lynch I almost certainly am dead if no body else votes. . .
For now:
##vote WigTii
To tie it up. Why Wig? I know Gink is a redirector, or at least the evidence (not just his claim) points strongly to that being the case. I still don't fully trust him, but as I doubt anybody else (other than Ebon) is going to vote him, I think doing so is a wasted vote. Wig, on the other hand, I know nothing of, and the recent case against him is, if not great, at least something to go on.
2 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I still don't fully trust him, but as I doubt anybody else (other than Ebon) is going to vote him, I think doing so is a wasted vote.
Why? If you voted Gink, that'd be two votes, tops so far. Do you have a case against him? I ask because I currently believe him over you at the moment.