4 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

##vote TheToad

Yess grant me sweet deliverance

Okay, have time for one quick post this afternoon. I'll be on tomorrow afternoon around the deadline for sure though.

I'm still not sure how that lynch switched to Rajam, he felt so clearly town to me, the most of anyone. I'm back to looking at my other reads. I'm starting to really read gink as town, I'm not sure he would try and take charge this much as scum. I'm leaning towards the Toad or Pod. Pod is still not adding much of use, seems to be stalling and actively misdirecting the conversation. Toad still seems insistent on Vis, which I also don't see much of an argument against, other than Vis is being much less active that he usually is. Now toad is just playing very defensively. I need to double check, but I remember a situation like this in a previous game, I don't remember his alignment in that one though, I'll try and check before my next post.

So, brain is pretty mushy today cause I was up all night with mini-Ard, so I forgot to grab my saved off links again when I left this morning. I swear I'll get some meat behind this in plenty of time for the vote (hammer isn't for another 27ish hours right?), but to the best of my recollection I was seeing associations between three of that Fab four in my analysis too: Pod, JJ, and Gink. I'm least confident about Gink because he's a bastrad that I can never pin down one way or the other...

18 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Another thing to note is that Ard and he could be scum, and a scum merely confirming a scum to clear them both.

If there are two redirects, who else was redirected Night 1? I am not asking for names or fishing in any way, just pointing it out for thought. Hypothetically, there ought to have been two redirects the night before.

Ard, Mad, CNinj, TheToad, WigTii, Vis, Pod and JJ have all seen this post and not commented. (plus, me, Ebon and Gnips)

Thats everyone, and no one has said anything. Is Ebon lying?

I was not redirected N1.

16 minutes ago, PodRacer said:

I feel your Pain Bruv!

As you are online can you answer the below please. It shouldnt be difficult:

10 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

On 19/12/2017 at 10:45 PM, PodRacer said:

Mans gonna use a wisdom of the crowd tip and stay off Ebon for now, but this doesn't mean I trust him.

Vis and Toad are null to me.

Gink with some last ditch input that unearthed a gem or two, more 2moro fam

Raj is gaining votes as I type....

I dont have a solid Read on Rajam....

Explain this whole post right before you voted Rajam pls

@TheToad - I have lined up a 4 way battle, you may feel victimised but I dont see why. The way I saw it is indeed 50/50 between you and Pod, but whilst I have pulled you up for multiple errors I have nothing big on you so I was leaning heavily towards Pod. Then you decided to have a completely uneccesary strop which makes no sense. Basically no pressure on you from anywhere.

As a general to everyone. If you are logging in, reading only new posts and then reacting, you are not being as useful as you could be, reactive play is not very good for scum hunting. To really help you need to reread the thread relatively frequently to look at posts in a new light. Mad you can see is reading the thread, JJ rereads the thread, Ard rereads specific parts of the threads, Ovi we know always rereads the thread. What do these people have in common? They are all seen as some of the better players on here, its very simple why.

Just now, Ardaedhel said:

I'm least confident about Gink because he's a bastrad that I can never pin down one way or the other...

The amount of things you think I am capable of is very flattering.

Just now, JJs Juggernaut said:

I need to double check, but I remember a situation like this in a previous game, I don't remember his alignment in that one though, I'll try and check before my next post.

This is very important, if you could spare the time it will be very helpful.

wil do, just finishing up at work then im ready to play. Busy one today.

24 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

As a general to everyone. If you are logging in, reading only new posts and then reacting, you are not being as useful as you could be, reactive play is not very good for scum hunting. To really help you need to reread the thread relatively frequently to look at posts in a new light. Mad you can see is reading the thread, JJ rereads the thread, Ard rereads specific parts of the threads, Ovi we know always rereads the thread. What do these people have in common? They are all seen as some of the better players on here, its very simple why.

1 hour ago, Ardaedhel said:

Is there an "eye-roll" emoji?

I'm rereading it, about halfway through it rn, some thoughts coming soon

On 14/12/2017 at 10:51 PM, EbonHawk said:

Roles with smuggler backgrounds:

pilot, scout, possibly zealot.

roles that don't have a smuggling background:

investigator, Jedi padawan, hacker, the scum

also for everyone else, I'm not rolefishing I don't care about roles yet

I think this pushes me to strongly believe Ebon is town...

/meta/Not much time to comment cos I'm mostly out of the house trying to find all the gifts for family members, and recently got told my uncle and cousins will be coming, so now gotta run to find some./meta/

But from the fanstastic 4:

Gink and JJ read town

Pod's play hasn't actually provided much, decyphering it is annoyingly complicated occasionally, but it feels a bit out. And last time someone was playing to character in posts, and I said it was a way of covering himself, it was a scum Cninja and no one listened, I'm starting to think this may be the same case here.

Toad... Do I need to say much?... Been thinking he is scum since D1...

On 12/19/2017 at 3:54 PM, Ardaedhel said:

Which would put those three potentially opposed to Ebon. I don't feel really solid on that connection, but it's at least reasonably good evidence that none of those three are scum if Ebon is.

I’m still doing my project, but ffs ard, my vote was on vis.

catching up now

17 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

I’m still doing my project, but ffs ard, my vote was on vis.

13 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Nobody has counterclaimed redirecting Ebon to Rajam. So either I a hacker of I am scum and scum have a redirector.

Except there appears to be a second redirector who is making scummier moves than me.

I did not fish for a scan result. Ebon told us yesterday what the result is.

I can declare who I redirected you to, but that is not helpful. It wasnt Broba, thats all that matters currently.

Yes. However, a hacker redirected Ebon to CNinj. Its a really audacious move for a scum hacker to redirect to one of there own and waste a hide ability on it. Especially D2.

I want to strongly look into Ebons strong scum reads who would have been motivated to control Ebons scan. That I believe is me, Pod, JJ and MrToad.

I have an aliby.

Jj I read as town.

So its Pod or MrToad.

I haven't said toad is scummy or a read...

pod is scum, jj i'm 75% on, and you... well

Well what? Are you still on him? Do you think Ard is lying?

Ok, I’ve got my notes together. I’m going to wait till i get home and can use my own computer for this, because on a phone this **** would drive me ******* nuts.

Just now, EbonHawk said:

I haven't said toad is scummy or a read...

This is actually true, I reread. Mad appeared a little bit. Its mainly me, pod and JJ though.

##Unvote

right town, listen up, some real talk here.

i've caught up and well **** me...

first off lets get one thing sorted out, gink tried throwing shade on toad by putting him in with my reads to let it run. this is not ture. my reads our him, pod, jj who he names also...

the entire plan he's concocted is brilliant and is a scum ace move, cleaning at least 1-2 of them, and hopefully nailing toad a town person or he's going after his own!

Pod - played a more outlandish game post wise but been more laid back and added nothing, that is indicative of him being scum

JJ - playing the same as my first game, very little posting, weaksauce arguments, can tell he's not town from the way he's writing! he also voted me in ironcilly the same way as well from our first game...ace scum marine

gink - from the first post setting himself up to be town, to flat out ignoring me calling him out, calling all my reads and reasons idiotic, and is now okay and using the same reads himself with different spin to save his own **** which i've got a heat seeker on and he knows, everyone keeps giving him a free pass just because of who he is, just because he's gink. he says he's fed up of this game, rubbish, i am.

on why i scanned gink him again, i don't trust you, you're a scum hacker for sure

just like last game when i spent the whole time calling out vis as scum and no one did anything.... same again now! here i am giving you all 3 scum on a ****** platter, if you can't trust my reads on JJ and pod okay, hang gink, get his scum info, and then we can get the rest! i'm surprised i'm not dead and wasn't the night kill quite frankly, but then they can keep throwing scum shade on me that way... even if i die now i don't care because i legit cannot wait to see the reaction in obvs after you 3 finally die or win!

Toad is town, please don't let gink and scum lead us down another Rajam hole!

Seriously, and mentioning vis earlier, i think reading through he's my 4th scum read, and i do indeed reckon we're dealing with 4 scum! all the evidence you all need is there.

also FYI IMO if we don't lynch gink now, he's got a plan, and i reckon it involves lynching a scum mate! which if so, and you all buy into him, pod, jj, vis....

##vote gink

I'm town again

lynch this mofo

21 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:

I'm town again

20 minutes and this is ginks response......

the joke of it aside.. where's his real follow up? nothing... aside from acknowledging the meme he ignores everything

pffftt

22 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Vig or Cop is the obvious scum faction kill.

We had established that this was not the case. Rajam was either a pilot or infiltrator or you were lying.

This means that Rajam was not an obvious faction kill.

This is elememtary.

I actually considered redirecting you for reason one. You are an idiot.

But that would be an incorrect play in my position so I didnt.

Now shut up.and let the adults play. You shall not ruin another day with endless bleating.

can't formulate a defence, knows he's scum as it's written in red in his PM, so just resorts to saying shut up...

well guess what I will carry on gink till you hang or i'm nightkilled by you! you're scum

22 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

*It clears me from all cases where scum does not have multiple hackers.

Scum are redirecting Ebon (or he is lying) onto town targets so they are not exposed. Its a safety move.

This means ** CNinj is confirmed town .

We already know ** Wigti is very very likely town because of mod error.

**Ebon unfortunately is likely town because of being redirected. It shows scum have concerns over his role. Not a clue why as it was blatant he would check me. Though I suppose Pod or JJ could have been concerned.

If CNinj is not a pilot (please confirm) then Ebon is scum.

So actually you confirming that you were redirected means a lot.

*4 scum. most likely 1 hacker, 3 infiltrators(as they're the main scum flavour)...

**here gink says 3 people our town, so to him 4 of:

him, pod, jj, vis, ard, mad, toad, gnips are scum...

mad, gnips, ard, and toad read town to me so well he's narrowed that one down for us...

GINK, JJ, POD, VIS

Gink has been redirecting just so he can make hypothetical posts about just this situation to seem town.. (good play, would expect it). he also use's it to roll his other plan where by narrowing down his list he can lead the town into lynching, selectively choosing scum to win town over.

11 players 6 to hammer

after todays lynch and night kill

9 players 5 to hammer

after tomorrow's lynch they have vote control

also as scum have a hacker it is possible they can have 2 night kills and speed that up..

if a zealot is in the game, the role may be confirmed but doesn't mean it's included.. if it is scum can use their hacker to redirect that night kill as well