22 hours ago, Rajam said:

22 hours ago, Rajam said:

Ebon, make a full-claim. We need to get this mess out of the way

full detailed claim. Paraphrase to avoid a modkill.

Why? We all knew what his role was by this point, it didnt need to be stated.

22 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

So, I'm working on getting caught up--I've done a quick readthrough, but not in-depth yet. But in the mean time, I'm still hung up on that charlie foxtrot in the vote yesterday, so I did a little analysis. A little bit of data I came up with, that I'm still trying to make sense of:

13 vote/unvote posts between 11:58 and 12:00. 7 were @Ginkapo.

@EbonHawk was in the lead the whole time from the time Gink/CN kicked off the clownshow until Gink's tying vote at the very end.

Every time @CaribbeanNinja voted, it immediately offset someone else's vote.

Still looking, but here's my chart if anybody else wants to have a look:

I'm not sure what to make of this yet, have to give it a think-through...

Lie. The timestamps ended at 12:03.

22 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

Goddammit. This is why I have to use Imgur... >.>

The timestamps on this chart are incorrect. You even quoted them on page 19 so you sure must know that. The last three actions were after 12:00. Given that you went into this and analysed properly, why are there blatant errors? You had the benefit of time and you made blatant errors, I had no time and made a mistake. Why am I the scummy git and not you? What was the purpose of presenting incorrect information here?

21 hours ago, Rajam said:

Anyone still thinking on lynching EbonHawk NEEDS to go back to page 10 and reread it. Ebon goes on a burst of quotes and posts in a very short period of time (check timestamps, which are very important here), and it reeks town. Scum simply does NOT do that job (specially quoting). Whoever keeps pushing him will have to make some serious explanations

Ok, so this is the argument that town react angrily and then upset, whilst scum get annoyed and then calm down. So lets be fair here, I have done more than enough to provoke Ebon in this game, so lets look at some of his posts from page 19:

21 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

He's a pilot not a vig, he can run at night not kill

Angry/Upset or Annoyed/Calm?

21 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

Then why you talking about a town vig

"Because Ebon confirmed you as either a goddamn cop or vig, AND YOU SAY SWEET FA. You either have an actual faction check to confirm or are a vig. If a vig then your best move is to claim so scum get the awkward choice of whether to kill you or not given you are just as dangerous to town. There is nothing worse for scum than a confirmed town vig who they cant read the intentions of."

Angry/Upset or Annoyed/Calm?

21 hours ago, EbonHawk said:

Gink I also though that you were answering my call outs, all you've is misdirect so far and throw shade elseware to avoid it on you

scum scum scum

Angry/Upset or Annoyed/Calm?

Rajam, your logic makes no sense, by your reasoning Ebon should be scum. This really feels like you want everyone to accept that Ebon is town so that his confirmation of you being a pilot is more readily accepted.

20 hours ago, Rajam said:

@Ginkapo I am a Pilot. When Ebon claimed I thought he got the "Rajam is a Pilot" result. I have to admit I had the impression that Pilot was only a green role, since mod said at some point it was the equivalent of a Vanilla Townie. My bad for no rechecking, but why would I do that, since I know I'm town and my role is green. As things got messier I asked for clarification.

Are you a pilot, or are you Infiltrator who shows up as a pilot?

##unvote
##Vote Rajam

Raj: Ard, Gnips, GInk

Gink: Ebon, Wig

Ebon: ninja,

Toad: Raj, vis, JJ

Pod: Mad, Broba

******* deadline throwing my whole game theory out of whack.

And now we appear to have a tie again!

I'm here.

##vote Rajam

Gink said it well

yes, I missed the pod vote from broba before he left. We CANNOT let this end in another no-vote!!!! 26 minutes left.

4 Raj: Ard, Gnips, GInk, Toad

2 Gink: Ebon, Wig

1 Ebon: ninja,

3 Toad: Raj, vis, JJ

2 Pod: Mad, Broba

Raj or Toad anyone?

Ninja, you are still on ebon, who doesn't look like a candidate anymore, are you going to change your vote?

1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

4 Raj: Ard, Gnips, GInk, Toad

2 Gink: Ebon, Wig

1 Ebon: ninja,

3 Toad: Raj, vis, JJ

2 Pod: Mad, Broba

We need more than a 1-vote spread to prevent a last-second ninja here. CN (no pun intended), you're present and Ebon's probably not eating it one way or other, consider swapping to Raj for reasons detailed above?

I dont know Ninja. I’m now thoroughly questioning my read on Raj. The potential upside on that is huge.

Just now, Ardaedhel said:

We need more than a 1-vote spread to prevent a last-second ninja here. CN (no pun intended), you're present and Ebon's probably not eating it one way or other, consider swapping to Raj for reasons detailed above?

yup

##unvote

##vote Rajam

Just now, JJs Juggernaut said:

Right, here now. I'll be around until the deadline.

I'm leaning towards lynching Pod, Toad or Gink. All have enough reason to get my vote. Pod for being utterly worthless again, I thought we were finally past his nonsensical stage. Toad still insists on ebon's play being brilliant scum, which to be seems highly unlikely. Many of his arguments have felt forced. Ninja is coming to his defense, and thinks its suspicious that I don't think ebon is scum. That and the reasons I outlined in my last post put him up there as a potential scum with Toad. Gink i'm a little torn on. His play is very hard to read, his indignation comes off town. I'm still troubled by that quote from him. He casually sweeps it under the rug, then still says he is fine with ebon dying. How is that not suspicious to anyone else??

##vote Ginkapo

First post of JJ quoting. I just want to say that this reads like town JJ. It feels like all those ones he made in that game me and Mad were scum when he was always around 80% correct but no one listened.

Stay alive to late game JJ and you'll be a great asset.

Scummy:
I dont like Rajam or Mr.Toad in this game. Vis doesnt seem much better to be honest, and I realise there is a wierd anti each other thing going on with them so I dont think they can all be scum.

Slightly lower in the scale, absentish Pod, and wierd arguments Ard.

Town:
JJ Juggs.

Unsure:
CNinj, Mad, Broba, Ebon

Absent as ****:
Wigtii, GNips

@Onidsen: Thank you for the clarification.

I'm a Vulcan, incapable of lying. It was an unfortunate honest mistake which completely destroys my line of thought. Oh well

## unvote

I'm going back to my Day 1 arc.

## vote Rajam

@Ginkapo Frankly I just assumed they'd stopped at noon as per the rules. Once I hit 12:00 I stopped checking. The sequence was what was important, not the precise times, given the resolution available on the timestamps (I don't see a way to see seconds...). And you'll recall, I gave you credit for the time cruch. I'll find and quote it.

I think WigTii's vote actually puts Rajam at -1

Maybe I shouldnt have claimed, ergh why did I get confused about deadline, should have realised I had time to lead a lynch case.

22 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

This assumes a really quick tactical decision by hypothetically-scum Gink, though. In the space of <60sec after the above quote by CN, Gink would've had to do an awful lot of analysis and decide it was worth making a lot of noise in the voting to do... I'm not sure what.

@Ginkapo

3 minutes ago, WigTii said:

I'm a Vulcan, incapable of lying.

This may not be the right game for you

Mans gonna use a wisdom of the crowd tip and stay off Ebon for now, but this doesn't mean I trust him.

Vis and Toad are null to me.

Gink with some last ditch input that unearthed a gem or two, more 2moro fam

Raj is gaining votes as I type....

I dont have a solid Read on Rajam....

Just now, PodRacer said:

Mans gonna use a wisdom of the crowd tip and stay off Ebon for now, but this doesn't mean I trust him.

Vis and Toad are null to me.

Gink with some last ditch input that unearthed a gem or two, more 2moro fam

Raj is gaining votes as I type....

I dont have a solid Read on Rajam....

Vote!

Just a clarification. If I'm around to close the cycle, I take posts up to my post. If I'm gone at turnover time, then I'll announce it in advance, and make it clear that I'll only accept stuff up to the timestamp, unless someone in the observer's doc is available to close the cycle on my behalf.

GG Raj

Hope to see you in the next one

##vote Rajam

@Onidsen hammer?