Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:
So which is it?
So you try and use my emotion at getting pointlessly voted as evidence that I'm changing my position on Rajam? You forgot not 30 minutes later I unvoted once I had cooled down and reread Rajam's posts. His play screams town, once I saw that I refocused.
@Onidsen count please.
##request votecount
how much until deadline?
Just now, JJs Juggernaut said:So you try and use my emotion at getting pointlessly voted as evidence that I'm changing my position on Rajam? You forgot not 30 minutes later I unvoted once I had cooled down and reread Rajam's posts. His play screams town, once I saw that I refocused.
I'm just pointing out the inconsistency.
##unvote
#vote The Toad
Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:I'm just pointing out the inconsistency.
It's not an inconsistence as I very clearly pointed out. Scummier by the minute.
1 minute ago, Rajam said:##request votecount
how much until deadline?
current vote by my count: Time left 55 minutes.
Raj: Ard, Gnips
Gink: Ebon, Wig
Ebon: ninja, gink
Toad: Raj, vis, JJ
Pod: Mad
On 17/12/2017 at 10:55 PM, Onidsen said:Day 2
As the ships come in from making their shipments, you notice that one of them is missing. Eldo's Worst Nightmare is missing, and the network is buzzing with the news that his ship has been detained by the Imperial Navy. He was a Runner Pilot
Ovi, if you are reading. You let us down big time, you left us absolutely nothing.
On 17/12/2017 at 11:49 PM, Ardaedhel said:Yup, totally my fault on my part--I thought I still had another hour, and came over like 5 minutes after hammer. I don't know who I'd have voted for anyway. Not a lot of information out there at the time.
That said, that was a **** show along those who were here and active during those few minutes. I'm much more interested in the reasoning behind the casting and retracting of all those votes at the eleventh hour, who are every bit as responsible for the outcome as we no-shows are:
@Ginkapo .
Explanations.
No hang on a sec here. Sure you werent there at deadline which was unfortunate and happens so no quarrels there. However, what did you actually do D1 at all?
On 17/12/2017 at 11:50 PM, Rajam said:On 15/12/2017 at 9:07 AM, ovinomanc3r said:On 15/12/2017 at 8:28 AM, Visovics said:I feel like Rajam is new here but not new to the game itself. I can see why he voted both. Although his vote on Cninj is quite unsubstantiated...
What you said is the scummiest thing ever!
##vote: Visovics
We should hear the dead people
Really Rajam? I understand looking back at the dead person posts, but are you really thinking its a good idea to run a lynch based on a post from page 7 responding to Vis on page 6? Yes I went and found it, this whole thing is ridiculous. Seems forced.
On 18/12/2017 at 1:39 AM, EbonHawk said:And if we can get a block on solid town reads, I know there must be others who scanned last night , we can work out he scum from their night kills plus how certain people will play, in a big game establishing a block is going to help, and vis I started it because like he previous games I want to lead a town effort to victory
Even assuming that you cant read, this still makes very little sense.
On 18/12/2017 at 2:22 AM, Madaghmire said:And we get back here. On the one hand, we should probably care who dies, but I get what he’s actually trying to say here. It sure reads like a totally town player trying to ensure a vote. And remember, theres other posts from other players, so this isnt posted in vacuum like its quoted.
Of course, I think its perfectly within Ginks capabilities to present that image. But as he says, why? Why do that? To keep Ebon alive? Certainly he wasn’t trying to save Vis. To what end?
If Ebon flips scum, I think maybe we look harder at Gink, but atm I’m leaning town on him.
Mad really seems to be toying with me, its still bugging me. I think he is scum, but dont want to say it so I am just going to keep subtly hinting at it without stating it so that others may latch on but Gink wont notice that its me, Madaghmire, Mr.Silvertongue, leading it.
It may be innocent, but it bugs me.
On 18/12/2017 at 3:53 PM, TheToad said:On 18/12/2017 at 3:30 PM, Ginkapo said:On 18/12/2017 at 3:22 PM, TheToad said:So we have an unsolicited claim In a game with weak protection...
and we’ve got probably one of the most screwed D1 votes ever...
I don’t know what to do about the first just yet. About the effed vote, why don’t we just recreate the end of D1 vote and go from there?
Are you wanting to include Ebon in the lynch candidates again today?
That’s the hang up, he has put us in a **** situation. Outed himself as an investigator and Rajam as a green role... in a game where the only way to protect is to re-direct
The question is, do we take what Ebon says as truth? If we do then we gotta invest a lot in his ***... invest a lot into a player who almost got the axe D1
On 18/12/2017 at 3:54 PM, TheToad said:We also need to take into consideration that the investigator role can be either faction... his post could of been a signal to the scum team
On 18/12/2017 at 4:05 PM, TheToad said:Yep... I just don’t see a Town aligned investigator outing a green role unsolicited... a Scum aligned one would in a heartbeat... trade a role cop for a faction cop or vig
@EbonHawk what do you have to say?
I still dont really get the idea of just "restarting" the vote where we left of. Were we not supposed to attempt to learn new things or take our new knowledge into account.
Mr.Toad has to be either a Pilot role or scum imo. Bear this in mind if he ever claims.
On 18/12/2017 at 5:17 PM, PodRacer said:After Ebons D1 interaction with Ovi it was clear he was saying I'm either Scum or a power role innit, added to the fishing I had a scum lean...
The fact he's alive makes me think scum...
but essentially Mans in the same place as yesterday fam.
If he is scum, I think he has a partner in one of the three who screwed the vote yesterday.
If he's town then likely Vis is scum and aligned to one of (or more) the three.
Mans torn as how best to prove his allegianceses and ting.
Is it just me, and I know I havent played much over the last few months, but isnt Pod unnaturally quiet this game? I'm not coming across his posts very often.
On 18/12/2017 at 6:21 PM, CaribbeanNinja said:I mean the timer ended like at 2 PM (My time) and y'all were posting past it. And yes, about rules, I am pretty virtuous.
For future reference, most mods play to their post rather than time so you could have intervened.
On 18/12/2017 at 6:31 PM, BrobaFett said:I was trying to wait until you and gink figured your crap out to prevent a no lynch before deciding after gink voted and you went dark that you must be waiting to make sure it was certain. I know you were posting at the same time, I was posting too, and sitting in line at the drive through refreshing every 2 seconds trying to figure out what the right call was. Eventually I made mine and landed on it. I am not saying that it's now gospel that you are scum, or gink or I are. Obviously the reason I was trying to vote with you conveys the fact that I thought we were all well meaning- but I stand by the opinion that you left us hanging there.
Broba seems to get very offensive about throwing the crap onto me and CNinj. I dont get why, it was an honest mistake from where I was sitting so nothing to get concerned about. I can understand outsiders getting funny about it, but Broba was involved. What is he so concerned about? Was it not an honest mistake?
5 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:It's not an inconsistence as I very clearly pointed out. Scummier by the minute.
So we can't look into your posts?
1 minute ago, CaribbeanNinja said:So we can't look into your posts?
what purpose does this post have? this is such a stupid question. Of course everyone should look into my posts as well, that's the whole game, but you seem intent on creating something out of nothing, which along with your previous play is extremely scummy.
Just now, JJs Juggernaut said:what purpose does this post have? this is such a stupid question. Of course everyone should look into my posts as well, that's the whole game, but you seem intent on creating something out of nothing, which along with your previous play is extremely scummy.
You really flip when anyone ever points anything at you.
1 minute ago, JJs Juggernaut said:this is such a stupid question
And I expect more from you.
7 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:Ovi, if you are reading. You let us down big time, you left us absolutely nothing.
No hang on a sec here. Sure you werent there at deadline which was unfortunate and happens so no quarrels there. However, what did you actually do D1 at all?
Really Rajam? I understand looking back at the dead person posts, but are you really thinking its a good idea to run a lynch based on a post from page 7 responding to Vis on page 6? Yes I went and found it, this whole thing is ridiculous. Seems forced.
Even assuming that you cant read, this still makes very little sense.
Mad really seems to be toying with me, its still bugging me. I think he is scum, but dont want to say it so I am just going to keep subtly hinting at it without stating it so that others may latch on but Gink wont notice that its me, Madaghmire, Mr.Silvertongue, leading it.
It may be innocent, but it bugs me.
So, I think as it goes you’ll realize I wasn’t doing that, but if this is one of those things where you are calling me out for doing what you are actually doing, then bravo.
23 hours ago, Rajam said:23 hours ago, Visovics said:The best play at night is to kill Rajam, Gink is right. You just put him in kill sights because he is too risky of a role for scum to let live for the night... I don’t know if you are just pretending or if you really can’t see how bad you are playing...
##vote EbonHawk
Bad =/= scum
This is scum disguising a vote behind OMGUS/emotional reaction
More votes on Visovics pls
##request votecount
Rajam, how is any of what Vis wrote emotional?
23 hours ago, Madaghmire said:An good point, and one that is only somewhat addressed below, and maybe even contradicts what is said in bold;
That bolded portion, which appears to be a lie, plus the hard push on Toad again, don’t look good.
I’ve spoken on this already.
That does seem like a leap from Vis, and worse, its not active scum-hunting. Thats the whole point here, to hunt scum. Not bad townies.
No. I think if he’s scum, scum doesn’t push a vote his way. My concern is that theres a scum player in the trio of Ninja/Broba/Ginkapo that wanted to keep Ebon alive. Thats the totality of what I’m saying. Nearly getting lynched just means you nearly got lynched. I’m willing concede that maybe I’ve been letting it loom too largely in my calculus.
As suggested, I took a look back at the deadline. The portion copied from Gink as well as Vis’ bolded comment which appears to be at odds with that timing are most damning to me. The second effort push on Toad sans vote isn’t great either.
##vote visovics
Mad actually puts a case together, this is a good sign.
22 hours ago, EbonHawk said:Oh fair enough, yes I did.. and I didn't mix my role up just misread and thought scum could have that role also...
How does scum being able to have a role mean that there are multiple town scanners? You didnt answer the question, and when you admit you made a mistake it still didnt explain anything. Why did you think there were multiple scans at night?
*********Games goes to pot as we realise Ebon is an idiot*******************
Just back from Vassal n ting.
Catchin up fam.
3 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:You really flip when anyone ever points anything at you.
Yes, I'm a rather defensive person, runs in the family. My sense of justice hate's false accusations. I get rather upset when people stretch logic to fit an argument against me. Once again I'm left wondering if I'm just not the right personality type to play these games when the scum try and push all my buttons.
2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:And I expect more from you.
And why is that?
Just now, JJs Juggernaut said:Yes, I'm a rather defensive person, runs in the family. My sense of justice hate's false accusations. I get rather upset when people stretch logic to fit an argument against me. Once again I'm left wondering if I'm just not the right personality type to play these games when the scum try and push all my buttons.
And why is that?
FYI I'm not scum. Don't assume that because someone catches something (to me it is something) that they are scum.
I expect nastiness from others, not you. I respect you a great deal.
Can we get a count? Im almost at commuting time which means my ability to participate is going to be significantly hindered.
16 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:Ovi, if you are reading. You let us down big time, you left us absolutely nothing.
Leave things was not my winning condition
with about 30 minutes left...no @EbonHawk
21 minutes ago, JJs Juggernaut said:current vote by my count: Time left 55 minutes.
Raj: Ard, Gnips
Gink: Ebon, Wig
Ebon: ninja, gink
Toad: Raj, vis, JJ
Pod: Mad
Should still be this I think.
2 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:Leave things was not my winning condition
Begone spirit! These affairs are not for the likes of you!
2 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:FYI I'm not scum. Don't assume that because someone catches something (to me it is something) that they are scum.
I expect nastiness from others, not you. I respect you a great deal.
And this makes up my mind. Mafia is not for me. I'm done for good after this game. Not worth the stress or friction with people I normally get along fine with.
Just now, CaribbeanNinja said:Should still be this I think.
Didnt broba vote pod?
