I also believe that scum have access to the investigator role (obvious), and the hacker role. Out of the roles oni included hacker makes the most sense, and could explain my night action being redirected (mentioned in first post). As I was looking into pod, and gink hard it would make sense.
howver if it was town you know what I'm saying is the truth regardless if you believe im town
Ginkapo why was my night action relevant to you? Why the urge to reveal what I did?
##vote gink so obviously scum
8 hours ago, Ginkapo said:What is the result of an investigator scan?
You get their role its in the main post.
12 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:You get their role its in the main post.
It was a leading question, he knows exactly what it does...
24 minutes ago, EbonHawk said:I mean I never said you'd kill me, and no you wouldn't. You're far far too expeinaced in mafia to kill Rajam you would never be so obvious in that, jsut like killing me.
and scumarining doesn't mean not posting my friend, it means posting to play undercover scum... which you've been doing sublimely all game.
The best play at night is to kill Rajam, Gink is right. You just put him in kill sights because he is too risky of a role for scum to let live for the night... I don’t know if you are just pretending or if you really can’t see how bad you are playing...
##vote EbonHawk
2 minutes ago, Visovics said:The best play at night is to kill Rajam, Gink is right. You just put him in kill sights because he is too risky of a role for scum to let live for the night... I don’t know if you are just pretending or if you really can’t see how bad you are playing...
##vote EbonHawk
Bad =/= scum
This is scum disguising a vote behind OMGUS/emotional reaction
More votes on Visovics pls
##request votecount
Right. I dislike Ebon's play, and am liking it less and less as we go on. I am also distrustful of Gink however. . . I am torn which to vote for.
Ebon is at L-4. Gink is at L-6 or so. maybe -5. Not that that matters, as we have a majority system in place.
I think I shall
##vote Ebon
for now, as his play does seem scummy, but Gink is next on my list of suspects.
What does “OMGUS” stand for?
2 minutes ago, Rajam said:Bad =/= scum
This is scum disguising a vote behind OMGUS/emotional reaction
More votes on Visovics pls
##request votecount
I agree with you overall, but just like Pod last game, Ebon's play may actually prove detrimental to town in the long run. As you are the person he spoke about, how do you feel about his actions?
2 minutes ago, Rajam said:Bad =/= scum
This is scum disguising a vote behind OMGUS/emotional reaction
More votes on Visovics pls
##request votecount
So do you think all that stuff yesterday at the deadline was innocent then?
1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:What does “OMGUS” stand for?
Oh My God You Suck
2 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:What does “OMGUS” stand for?
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Oh_My_God_You_Suck
1 minute ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:I agree with you overall, but just like Pod last game, Ebon's play may actually prove detrimental to town in the long run. As you are the person he spoke about, how do you feel about his actions?
Are we really lynching him because he claimed?
There are 65165156156x players who are far more scummy
1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:So do you think all that stuff yesterday at the deadline was innocent then?
What do you mean by this ¿?
Just now, Rajam said:What do you mean by this ¿?
Well if it was a scum play to manipulate the vote, then they pushed it away from Ebon towards Vis/No-vote. Seems wierd for them to do that if Vis is scum.
But if it was a bunch of people earnestly trying to avoid a no vote, then thats all it is. They just happened to drive the fail-bus off a cliff.
1 minute ago, Rajam said:Are we really lynching him because he claimed?
There are 65165156156x players who are far more scummy
No, I am torn between he and Gink, Gink 'cause of a general feeling, Ebon cause he announces unsolicited information that could have better helped town had it been secret. I do not think it is a great reason. However, how many people are suspicious enough of Gink to vote him? If Ebon turns up town, I am voting Gink. If he turns up scum, then it is possible that Gink is town.
Yesterday's lack of lynch was truly a fiasco, but honestly I'm more concerned about the guys who weren't around the deadline. Honestly I need to reread the events there, I'm pretty confident in nailing some more scum from there, as scum usually gets more transparent during deadlines. Everyone should do so and reread the end of yesterDay. Focus on players who could have been around and weren't.
4 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:No, I am torn between he and Gink, Gink 'cause of a general feeling, Ebon cause he announces unsolicited information that could have better helped town had it been secret. I do not think it is a great reason. However, how many people are suspicious enough of Gink to vote him? If Ebon turns up town, I am voting Gink. If he turns up scum, then it is possible that Gink is town.
You know who is a better vote? Vics. Go there
9 minutes ago, Rajam said:You know who is a better vote? Vics. Go there
Atm, you are one of my towniest reads, but can you give me a bit more on Vis? And remember, I had a vote on him yesterday, so its not like I’m coming from far away to get to Vis. Its just that end of day yesterday has me worried about voting him off the island.
Seems you think:
near getting lynched = townie
You and everyone else should shake that mentality off. If someone's scummy, lynch him
37 minutes ago, Visovics said:The best play at night is to kill Rajam, Gink is right. You just put him in kill sights because he is too risky of a role for scum to let live for the night... I don’t know if you are just pretending or if you really can’t see how bad you are playing...
##vote EbonHawk
I know, I'm saying gink wouldn't make that play imo
2 minutes ago, Rajam said:Seems you think:
near getting lynched = townie
You and everyone else should shake that mentality off. If someone's scummy, lynch him
So where's your vote?
On 12/16/2017 at 2:58 PM, Ginkapo said:
An good point, and one that is only somewhat addressed below, and maybe even contradicts what is said in bold;
22 hours ago, Visovics said:Sorry, major absence, had some troubles on work saturday and was out with no data whole day today, completely apologize.
In my defense (although a bit late), I was completely fine on Toad up to his defense, it felt forced, trying to prove a point too much, trying to explain something so banal at beginning of game too much, and how for the few posts following he conformed to that defense, just to try to prove a point it seemed. I remember him sticking up to his defenses in that same way when he proposed the no-lynch as scum and was told by everyone how it was scummy, he just tried to prove his point. As I see, Toad has a mentality that as scum, he thinks he’ll be too obvious if he simply follows what others say, thus my vote. And it was my better read, no one else screamed scummy to me really...
Also, some complicated simoultaneous votes and unvotes trying to balance the majority, I don’t think anyone had any idea of the count once it ended, so no wonder you were confused Gink.
That bolded portion, which appears to be a lie, plus the hard push on Toad again, don’t look good.
22 hours ago, Rajam said:##vote: Visovics
We should hear the dead people
I’ve spoken on this already.
36 minutes ago, Visovics said:The best play at night is to kill Rajam, Gink is right. You just put him in kill sights because he is too risky of a role for scum to let live for the night... I don’t know if you are just pretending or if you really can’t see how bad you are playing...
##vote EbonHawk
32 minutes ago, Rajam said:Bad =/= scum
This is scum disguising a vote behind OMGUS/emotional reaction
More votes on Visovics pls
##request votecount
That does seem like a leap from Vis, and worse, its not active scum-hunting. Thats the whole point here, to hunt scum. Not bad townies.
1 minute ago, Rajam said:Seems you think:
near getting lynched = townie
You and everyone else should shake that mentality off. If someone's scummy, lynch him
No. I think if he’s scum, scum doesn’t push a vote his way. My concern is that theres a scum player in the trio of Ninja/Broba/Ginkapo that wanted to keep Ebon alive. Thats the totality of what I’m saying. Nearly getting lynched just means you nearly got lynched. I’m willing concede that maybe I’ve been letting it loom too largely in my calculus.
As suggested, I took a look back at the deadline. The portion copied from Gink as well as Vis’ bolded comment which appears to be at odds with that timing are most damning to me. The second effort push on Toad sans vote isn’t great either.
##vote visovics