Day 2

As the ships come in from making their shipments, you notice that one of them is missing. Eldo's Worst Nightmare is missing, and the network is buzzing with the news that his ship has been detained by the Imperial Navy. He was a Runner Pilot

13 Players, 7 to Hammer:

@Visovics - Ge Ne'rator

@PodRacer - Big Shaq

@GhostofNobodyInParticular - Gotth Eruns

@Rajam - Dunn Drall

@Madaghmire - Biggus Dickus

@Ardaedhel - Michael Scarn

@CaribbeanNinja - Eldo Khan

@BrobaFett - Candi Ordo (no relation)

@TheToad - Mr. Toad

@Ginkapo - Earl Wallace of Naboo

@EbonHawk - Benjamin Dewellyn

@JJs Juggernaut - Incontinentia Buttocks

@WigTii - Tion Rai

The Dead:

ovinomanc3r - Eldo's Worst Nightmare, a Runner Pilot

Sorry, I mucked up the vote. It was really confused at the end. I thouggt I was dragging Vis to majority to avoid a no lynch.

However, with that said.

WHERE WERE YOU Gnips, Ard and Wigtii? That day end owes a lot to you three who didnt vote. Explain yourself.

Yup, totally my fault on my part--I thought I still had another hour, and came over like 5 minutes after hammer. I don't know who I'd have voted for anyway. Not a lot of information out there at the time.

That said, that was a **** show along those who were here and active during those few minutes. I'm much more interested in the reasoning behind the casting and retracting of all those votes at the eleventh hour, who are every bit as responsible for the outcome as we no-shows are:

@Ginkapo.

@CaribbeanNinja.

@BrobaFett.

Explanations.

Sorry, major absence, had some troubles on work saturday and was out with no data whole day today, completely apologize.

In my defense (although a bit late), I was completely fine on Toad up to his defense, it felt forced, trying to prove a point too much, trying to explain something so banal at beginning of game too much, and how for the few posts following he conformed to that defense, just to try to prove a point it seemed. I remember him sticking up to his defenses in that same way when he proposed the no-lynch as scum and was told by everyone how it was scummy, he just tried to prove his point. As I see, Toad has a mentality that as scum, he thinks he’ll be too obvious if he simply follows what others say, thus my vote. And it was my better read, no one else screamed scummy to me really...

Also, some complicated simoultaneous votes and unvotes trying to balance the majority, I don’t think anyone had any idea of the count once it ended, so no wonder you were confused Gink.

On 12/15/2017 at 5:07 AM, ovinomanc3r said:

What you said is the scummiest thing ever!

##vote: Visovics

We should hear the dead people

2 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Yup, totally my fault on my part--I thought I still had another hour, and came over like 5 minutes after hammer. I don't know who I'd have voted for anyway. Not a lot of information out there at the time.

That said, that was a **** show along those who were here and active during those few minutes. I'm much more interested in the reasoning behind the casting and retracting of all those votes at the eleventh hour, who are every bit as responsible for the outcome as we no-shows are:

@Ginkapo.

@CaribbeanNinja.

@BrobaFett.

Explanations.

Still more interested on the general lack of vote from you, because even if not completely sure, a lynch is better than the no-lynch, so to not have cast a vote at all is the main interest I think people want

I wrote this after catching up, as my curry came so priorities...

after my post and what went down it's quite clear to me pod, gink, JJ are absolutely scum!

Im glad a few of the town can see through what they threw at me, that's 2-3 games on the trot I've survived on the thinnest of wires...

pod isn't adding anything but big shaq references, JJ and Gink can be useful in case there's a fourth scum we have more chance finding number 4 from their posts than pods...

mad, toad, gnips, wig, ardenhal (I forget how to spell it) all read town to me ATM..

Mad toad and nips being my strongest reads..

i want to hear from rajam about what your saying? I've liked your recent input.... and

I can confirm rajam is town after last night, I scanned gink and it was redirected to him, even though I only have his role it's a green role so confirmed town.

3 minutes ago, Rajam said:

##vote: Visovics

We should hear the dead people

If we should truly hear them, then why not go for Eldo? Motive is there, get rid of his worst nightmare

That was my thoughts from last night with my actions added, popping out for 20 mins hopefully some talk and we can see where we're at

1 minute ago, EbonHawk said:

I wrote this after catching up, as my curry came so priorities...

after my post and what went down it's quite clear to me pod, gink, JJ are absolutely scum!

Im glad a few of the town can see through what they threw at me, that's 2-3 games on the trot I've survived on the thinnest of wires...

pod isn't adding anything but big shaq references, JJ and Gink can be useful in case there's a fourth scum we have more chance finding number 4 from their posts than pods...

mad, toad, gnips, wig, ardenhal (I forget how to spell it) all read town to me ATM..

Mad toad and nips being my strongest reads..

i want to hear from rajam about what your saying? I've liked your recent input.... and

I can confirm rajam is town after last night, I scanned gink and it was redirected to him, even though I only have his role it's a green role so confirmed town.

Why? WHY DID YOU FEEL THE NEED TO SAY THIS? WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT IN D2?!? And I thought we were over with D2 claims...

Just now, Visovics said:

Still more interested on the general lack of vote from you, because even if not completely sure, a lynch is better than the no-lynch, so to not have cast a vote at all is the main interest I think people want

I already explained it. It's not a great defense, but it's what I've got and there's nothing more I can say to convince anybody one way or the other so three's no point in dwelling on it. Either people believe me or they don't. ****, I was even on the forum at the time, reading through the movie spoilers thread, I just straight mis-calculated.

One of the three Marx brothers, though, looks very much like he was intentionally jacking up the vote. That is much more interesting than a simple lack of a vote, imo. Which is why I'm more interested in those three than either of the other two who didn't vote.

Ebon you are an idiot.

Ard. Me and Cninj were posting within seconds of each other.

1 minute ago, Ginkapo said:

Ebon you are an idiot.

Ard. Me and Cninj were posting within seconds of each other.

One of those times when it would be really nice to not be posting from a phone to see exact time stamps, heh.

Nonetheless, it's not hard to watch for posts with an unvote queued to make it look like a simultaneous post.

2 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

One of those times when it would be really nice to not be posting from a phone to see exact time stamps, heh.

Nonetheless, it's not hard to watch for posts with an unvote queued to make it look like a simultaneous post.

Well check a computer at some point.

Do you believe I was trying to save Ebon? Why would I do that as scum?

Man smells Gambit in the air Bruv

@EbonHawk

49 minutes ago, Visovics said:

Why? WHY DID YOU FEEL THE NEED TO SAY THIS? WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT IN D2?!? And I thought we were over with D2 claims...

Because if I have town information I'll give it otherwise everyone jsut ***** foots about... you can use all things even the reactions and changes in play after... use all the tools you have

Checking in guys, I got some paperwork to do then I’ll give the days posts a good read through. End of D1 was a fuster cluck...

1 hour ago, Ginkapo said:

Well check a computer at some point.

Do you believe I was trying to save Ebon? Why would I do that as scum?

Setting up to scum marine

2 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

WHERE WERE YOU Gnips, Ard and Wigtii? That day end owes a lot to you three who didnt vote. Explain yourself.

I apologize for my absence. Unexpected holiday visitors arrived at my door and I was pulled away from the game. I signed in six minutes after Oni called time. I was not happy.

And if we can get a block on solid town reads, I know there must be others who scanned last night, we can work out he scum from their night kills plus how certain people will play, in a big game establishing a block is going to help, and vis I started it because like he previous games I want to lead a town effort to victory

2 hours ago, Rajam said:

##vote: Visovics

We should hear the dead people

Not in this case. Ovi has a wierd meta thing going on with Cninja. I’m 99% sure that he’s just joking when he hits Vis with this. Plus he voted Ebon.

Sorry, this being the post raj quoted.

2 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

One of those times when it would be really nice to not be posting from a phone to see exact time stamps, heh.

Nonetheless, it's not hard to watch for posts with an unvote queued to make it look like a simultaneous post.

2 hours ago, Ginkapo said:

Well check a computer at some point.

Do you believe I was trying to save Ebon? Why would I do that as scum?

Is Gink the player you thought was jacking up the posts? In my head I’ve got a reasonable case both ways for him, town and scum, based on the same set of facts. Which usually means its unactionable.

The town argument is very simple. He was earnestly trying to avoid a no vote and lost count. Perfectly plausible, IMO.

Scum argument to come in next post;

On 12/16/2017 at 2:59 PM, Ginkapo said:

I am staying quiet now

Which would leave the rest to believe he’s out, right? Vote assuming his input has been input?

On 12/16/2017 at 3:00 PM, Ginkapo said:

##vote vis

But

On 12/16/2017 at 3:00 PM, Ginkapo said:

##unvote

Then

On 12/16/2017 at 3:00 PM, Ginkapo said:

##vote vis

All

On 12/16/2017 at 3:01 PM, Ginkapo said:

##unvote

This

On 12/16/2017 at 3:03 PM, Ginkapo said:

#vote vis

Guys....

Happens.

On 12/16/2017 at 3:03 PM, Ginkapo said:

I DONT EVEN REALLY CARE WHICH ONE. STOP GIVING ME A HEART ATTACK

And we get back here. On the one hand, we should probably care who dies, but I get what he’s actually trying to say here. It sure reads like a totally town player trying to ensure a vote. And remember, theres other posts from other players, so this isnt posted in vacuum like its quoted.

Of course, I think its perfectly within Ginks capabilities to present that image. But as he says, why? Why do that? To keep Ebon alive? Certainly he wasn’t trying to save Vis. To what end?

If Ebon flips scum, I think maybe we look harder at Gink, but atm I’m leaning town on him.

I’d like to hear from Broba and Nips.