TIEs and ?-Wings: What's left?

By Kyle Ren, in X-Wing

Kinda curious to see what you people think is plausible. The game (like the movies) started as X-Wings vs. TIE Fighters, and the natural progression was to expand that to every wing and TIE in the Galaxy. So we've got X-Wings, Y-Wings, A-Wings, B-Wings, E-Wings, K-Wings, and U-Wings now versus TIE Fighters, Interceptors, Bombers, Advanced, Aggressors, Advanced Prototypes, Punishers, Silencers, Strikers, Phantoms, and Defenders. So what's left?

TIE/br Boarding Shuttle:

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These guys are official canon, and despite FFG's attempts with the TIE Shuttle title for Bombers, these things haven't actually been done, because you can't actually board anybody with a TIE Shuttle. Also note TIE/sh is a different thing, used by officers who couldn't afford a Lambda (like Needa).

TIE Lander:

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Weirdly enough, these things are canon. Not sure what they'd do, I guess we'd have an Imperial U-Wing on our hands. Yay.

TIE Reaper:

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You've probably seen plenty of comments about why we need this in the game and whatnot, so moving on.

TIE Predator:

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Basically a futuristic TIE Interceptor. With the Silencer being a thing, it probably wouldn't fill a unique niche, but the moving wings might give it a cool title and dial.

TIE Avenger:

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The other TIE Advanced. I think this is very similar to the TIE Advanced Prototype in terms of niche, but maybe you disagree.

TIE Scout:

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I actually kinda like it, personally. It might be fun to have a cheap crew carrier like this, but the Empire does already have plenty of such options.

TIE Droid:

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The other TIE/D. Am I the only one who badly wants this as a 10-Cost cheap filler craft? Bonus kudos if it can Thweek your own ships!

TIE Sentinel:

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I seem to recall we talked about this a while ago. Super cool, but also super obscure.

TIE Oppressor:

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Seriously, just WTF. I hope we never get the the point where FFG is this much scraping the bottom of the barrel. Sorry Oppressor fans. I just can't see it.

Things that might be more like titles for the TIE Fighter or Bomber include the TIE Vanguard, the Recon TIE, and the TIE Heavy Bomber (TIE Heavy shown below).

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Now the ?-Wings. Note that I didn't put the V-Wing here because that's Imperial, and I'm thinking specifically of Rebels here.

H-Wing:

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Basically a Rebel TIE Punisher (a heavy bomber). Not really sure I like it though.

M-Wing:

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For whatever reason, I don't think this one's that ugly. Again, basically a heavy Y-Wing.

C-Wing - can't find a picture, so I'm guessing it's too obscure. Anybody know more about it?

L-Wing and G-Wing:

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They're from the KotOR era, so N/A.

D-Wing:

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I really don't even care at this point. Sure, it's ugly, but whatever. Somebody tell me why you care about this thing and I'll listen. (Edit: better picture, see below):

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T-Wing:

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Finally, a good one! I love the T-Wing. Anyone agree? What would it do?

So what do you people think? Any of these stand a chance? Which ones?

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20 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

D-Wing:

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I really don't even care at this point. Sure, it's ugly, but whatever. Somebody tell me why you care about this thing and I'll listen.

Why not? Other renders look better IMHO:

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Wouldn't mind flying that.

1 minute ago, Toni Wan Kenobe said:

Why not? Other renders look better IMHO:

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Wouldn't mind flying that.

Alright, cool. So what would it do in the game? And what are the odds of it happening?

3 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

Alright, cool. So what would it do in the game? And what are the odds of it happening?

I agree that the game roles are so crowded. This one could be an A-Wing with astromech slot, but that would probably break something. No odds of it happening, also...

Just now, Toni Wan Kenobe said:

I agree that the game roles are so crowded. This one could be an A-Wing with astromech slot, but that would probably break something. No odds of it happening, also...

We got the GUNBOAT, so anything can happen! This game has become one of the last refuges of the old canon in a Disney-micromanaged universe. I like the idea of a 3-agility ship with a droid slot. Maybe to prevent regen shenanigans, make it a title that adds the droid? Like

"your upgrade bar gains the [droid] icon. You cannot equip a [droid] upgrade costing 3 or more points."

I'm not convinced regen A-Wings would be the worst thing ever though. If costed appropriately.

If I wanted to play with the alphabet I'd go eat some soup. This EU infatuation with making an uninspired ship design for each letter annoys the crap out of me. (As do many of the TIE/extras to be honest)

So, for Rebels, we sill need C, D, F, G, H, I, J, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, V, W, and Z-Wings.

For Imps, I still want Experimental TIEs and a controller shuttle!

In before somebody says Z-Wings are an abomination and should never happen! (A Z-Wing is a kind of ugly).

Just now, Kieransi said:

In before somebody says Z-Wings are an abomination and should never happen! (A Z-Wing is a kind of ugly).

Ah, thanks for reminding me that we also need TIE-Wings!

Don't forget the mighty Q Wing!

For the TIEs, I would like to see the TIE Avenger , the TIE Hunter , the TIE Droid (only if they are completely new upgrades to it ) and the TIE Predator (looks quite unique). The Clawcraft is super sexy, but not exactly a TIE (and not necessarily Imperial).

For the ?-Wings... I guess only the T-Wing has any appeal to me (although I did the H-Wing once).

38 minutes ago, Kieransi said:

We got the GUNBOAT, so anything can happen! This game has become one of the last refuges of the old canon in a Disney-micromanaged universe. I like the idea of a 3-agility ship with a droid slot. Maybe to prevent regen shenanigans, make it a title that adds the droid?

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to be honest, i think the Silencer is exactly what the Avenger should have been so might be out of it

1 minute ago, Taiowaa said:

to be honest, i think the Silencer is exactly what the Avenger should have been so might be out of it

The Avenger is not overly large in a small base... :ph34r:

1 minute ago, Odanan said:

The Avenger is not overly large in a small base... :ph34r:

thats right, its not that big, but if you look at it, despite its black and the rectangular cockpit they look pretty similar.

the silencer is kinda half defender and half interceptor,

so what would half defender and half advanced look like?

54 minutes ago, Toni Wan Kenobe said:

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Wouldn't mind flying that.

That's actually a pretty cool looking ship.

9 minutes ago, Odanan said:

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Ouch. My poor E-Wings...

54 minutes ago, Odanan said:

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Yeah, sorry, meant to put the word "good" in there. :P

(Actually, Corran is legit. That was just a brain fart on my part.)

That's why I wanted your help with this Odanan - I think this game is really close to having all the ?-Wings and TIE [things] that exist, and I'm wondering what's next, but I'm also not super good at that because I haven't flown a ship other than the Bomber, Lambda, Defender, or GUNBOAT in months.

1 minute ago, Kieransi said:

Yeah, sorry, meant to put the word "good" in there. :P

(Actually, Corran is legit. That was just a brain fart on my part.)

That's why I wanted your help with this Odanan - I think this game is really close to having all the ?-Wings and TIE [things] that exist, and I'm wondering what's next, but I'm also not super good at that because I haven't flown a ship other than the Bomber, Lambda, Defender, or GUNBOAT in months.

I don't know... the fact Disney is releasing a movie/year will flood the new Canon with new ship designs. I think those Legends ships will only appear from now on if they are really popular (like the Gunboat) or bring something very new to the faction (like the TIE Aggressor).

3 minutes ago, Odanan said:

I don't know... the fact Disney is releasing a movie/year will flood the new Canon with new ship designs. I think those Legends ships will only appear from now on if they are really popular (like the Gunboat) or bring something very new to the faction (like the TIE Aggressor).

Yeah, I know that some of these probably have no chance, but I also have faith in FFG to crank out the plastic crack faster than Disney can crank out the movies! :P

I would at least like to see the T-Wing and the canon TIEs (Boarding Craft, Reaper, maybe Lander). And my inner video gamer is highly annoyed that now with the GUNBOAT, the abscence of the Avenger is even more noticeable.

Just a shame that the Resistance Bombers weren't called "L-Wings" because now we all have to go around saying "Resistance Bomber" or "BSF-17s" (boy that just rolls off the tongue with its six syllables...)

2 hours ago, Toni Wan Kenobe said:

Why not? Other renders look better IMHO:

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Wouldn't mind flying that.

I'd be down with that - kinda cool, honestly.

Still, there are a TON of other Rebel options still to go - even looking at ONLY canon ships:

  • T-85 X-Wing (canonical, but never seen - IE., bonus: FFG gets to make this one up nearly entirely)
  • RZ-2 A-Wing (from Last Jedi)
  • Resistance Transport ( *cough* spit *hack* )
  • R-22 Spearhead/A-Wing 'Trainer' (2-seat A-Wing from 'Rebels' in Phoenix Squadron colors)
  • Civilian U-Wing (basically shortened wings to just as far as the main body nose, and only the lower 2 engines - also from 'Rebels')
  • In 'Rebels' we've also seen (only twice, IIRC?) Rebel-aligned forces flying Nu-class transports from the Clone Wars
  • Nevermind we are still 'missing' on-screen pilots for the X-Wing (Blue squadron entirely, including General Anton Merrick), A-Wing, Y-Wing, etc
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5 minutes ago, AllWingsStandyingBy said:

Just a shame that the Resistance Bombers weren't called "L-Wings" because now we all have to go around saying "Resistance Bomber" or "BSF-17s" (boy that just rolls off the tongue with its six syllables...)

Or mg-100 Star fortress or whatever Disney ends up calling it when it gets done...

5 minutes ago, xanderf said:

I'd be down with that - kinda cool, honestly.

Still, there are a TON of other Rebel options still to go - even looking at ONLY canon ships:

  • T-85 X-Wing (canonical, but never seen - IE., bonus: FFG gets to make this one up nearly entirely)
  • RZ-2 A-Wing (from Last Jedi)
  • Resistance Transport ( *cough* spit *hack* )
  • R-22 Spearhead/A-Wing 'Trainer' (2-seat A-Wing from 'Rebels' in Phoenix Squadron colors)
  • Civilian U-Wing (basically shortened wings to just as far as the main body nose, and only the lower 2 engines - also from 'Rebels')
  • In 'Rebels' we've also seen (only twice, IIRC?) Rebel-aligned forces flying Nu-class transports from the Clone Wars
  • Nevermind we are still 'missing' on-screen pilots for the X-Wing (Blue squadron entirely, including General Anton Merrick), A-Wing, Y-Wing, etc

This. All this.

1 minute ago, Odanan said:

This. All this.

Merrick- Biggs - random guy from DS2 that blew up and had a moustache = moustache list. We need the other two.