Has the Silencer made me crazy

By Belphegor07, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Im feeling like this could be a good list but has my blind love for the Silencer made me crazy? Two small ships and massive bid - genius or insanity?

Two Ship First Order

(91/100)

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TIE Silencer: Kylo Ren (35 + 12)
+ Push the Limit (3)
+ Advanced Sensors (3)
+ Advanced Optics (2)
+ First Order Vanguard (2)
+ Autothrusters (2)


TIE/SF Fighter: "Quickdraw" (29 + 15)
+ Expertise (4)
+ Fire Control System (2)
+ Harpoon Missiles (4)
+ Threat Tracker (3)
+ Special Ops Training (0)
+ Lightweight Frame (2)

9 point bid puts Thweek in his place too. Very squishy though

What is that bid worth if your opponent comes with PS 10/11 Aces?

Two great ships and 9 mov not given to my oppentent.........if i dont die hahaha

Yes but you have only PS9 that's not enough. Drop both EPTs for VI and add an Academy TIE.

Edited by Hannes Solo
43 minutes ago, Hannes Solo said:

Yes but you have only PS9 thats noth enough. Drop both EPTs for VI and add an Academy TIE.

This. Currently OP's build is "insanity" as opposed to "genius".

How much PS10/11 is out there atm? I’m not seeing all that much around in my meta and there didn’t appear to be much in the recent Regionals...

PS 10 and 11 is starting to phase out in my local area too. I think you've invested too much into too light of frames though. 12 health between 2 small ships doesn't stretch far, and QD being particularly vulnerable to ordnance means you probably lose her in the joust and you're flying all game Kylo vs their whole list. I would absolutely try to cut some things to make room for a third ship. Kylo probably doesn't need both the title and a tech slot, QD can drop her missile and threat tracker and I'd say consider dropping expertise to something lighter. That leaves you at 18 points plus the EPT difference. You could very easily fit in something like a support TIE shuttle or countdown. ****, put VI on her and you have room for Omega Leader with A score to settle. That's 3 dodgy threats, all can be potential closers, 16 total health now is still light, but workable. Avoid a heads up joust like the plague and you should do just fine.

44 minutes ago, Estarriol said:

How much PS10/11 is out there atm? I’m not seeing all that much around in my meta and there didn’t appear to be much in the recent Regionals...

Maybe enough to matter? High PS alpha probably kills Quickdraw on the intial engagement. Heck, even high PS non-alpha has a good shot at killing her on the opening exchange. Kylo then spends the rest of the game praying for uncancelled crits.

Insanity or not... at least put primed thrusters on Kylo!

1 hour ago, Rettere said:

Insanity or not... at least put primed thrusters on Kylo!

What for? He certainly doesn't need it, despite what the 'internet' thinks...

The first list I came up with using Kylo was a 2 small-base ship list. But I'd rather use Lone Wolf Vader instead of Quickdraw. Kylo and Vader can really move! I wouldn't say its super competitive, but would definitely be fun!

Edited by blade_mercurial

Essentially for 1pt it makes your pre-maneuver boost+barrel roll immune to stress. Fly over a debris or let your opponent hit you with r3-a2 and you are still good to go with two pre-maneuver repositions next turn. It also opens up post-red maneuver repositioning.

8pt bid is not as good as 7pt bid + PT

Edited by Rettere

As long as Kyo isn't taking more than a single stress token, he doesn't care about stress. I mean, look at that dial! There are much better Tech options for the silencer than Primed Thrusters, and by picking it, you're missing out!

(100)

•Kylo Ren (45) - TIE Silencer
Push The Limit (3), Fire Control System (2), Primed Thrusters (1), •First Order Vanguard (2), Autothrusters (2)

•Major Vynder (34) - Alpha-class Star Wing
Adaptability (0), Proton Torpedoes (4), Harpoon Missiles (4), Guidance Chips (0)

•"Omega Leader" (21) - TIE/FO Fighter
•A Score To Settle (0)

If you do want to go for PS 11+, might I suggest:

  • Kylo Ren (35)
    • VI (1)
    • FCS (2)
    • Threat Tracker (3)
    • First Order Vanguard (2)
    • Autothrusters (2)
  • Quickdraw (29)
    • VI (1)
    • FCS (2)
    • Advanced Optics (2)
    • Spec Ops Training (0)
    • LWF (2)
  • Epsilon Ace (17)
    • Advanced Optics (2) [Drop this if you're worried about an initiative bid]

Thematic bonus for having all First Order ships.

I would agree with the general opinion that those 2 ships are not quite enough. Trim some things to fit a cheap 3rd ship, it will be WAY more useful.

Perhaps ditch the missiles and Threat Tracker, that would leave enough room for something else. You could also consider ditching Advanced Optics for Primed Thrusters and Expertise for VI to save more points for your 3rd ship.