Hi all,

From what I can tell all the troopers will have static poses?

This is a dealbreaker for me, I cant get excited about painting and displaying so many duplicate minis.

Will it be possible to swap heads and things like that? How do you guys feel about this?

I mentioned in threads ages ago before we saw the expansions that we needed figures to be customisable. It's a shame they didn't do it.

I was hoping the core set would be static and boxed expansions would be more for a model builders taste but from the pics it doesn't seem that way.

I think FFG have made a big mistake here. They're trying to break into the model building market now in a way that Xwing and Runewars didn't tick that box, but as much as the competitive and gameplay elements are important, for games like Warhammer, Legion etc the building and painting is a huge draw, and like you say, repetitive painting of static poses gets old fast, especially when painting stormtrooper armour.

Im not sure if it will effect the success of the game hugely, there's enough Star Wars lovers to make it float, but it's a darned shame.

You can customize all you want cut a head off here, glue a different gun there, swap a head, and of course many different armor color options- think vaders 501st, camo patteren and many different base ideas. Endless- just get creative. How many poses do you want? They already have 7 different stoormies.

I don't think they are trying to break into the "model builders market" as such, but the "tabletop gaming market".

There is of course a decent crossover between those markets, but they certainly aren't exclusive. A lot of popular and successful tabletop games have single pose models. Warmachine (er....i think they still are? The infantry i mean, not the Jacks though those are too when it comes to legs/bodies), Infinity, quite a lot of historical ranges, Malifaux....those are off the top of my head.

40Ks style is a far cry from the ONLY style.

And while I haven't been 40king for a couple years, I still keep up, and it appears they are leaning back toward really pretty single pose models now as well.

A little effort and care with a hobby knife and green stuff will work wonders. Already scouting out bits shops myself...

Also it looks like at least the arms are seperate on the legion models

Have a look at the spanish unboxing thread/vid.

It's kind of a dealbreaker for me on the rebel side, although i'm already looking at how i can supplement it wit IA minis where any scale difference thematically doesn't matter as much.

Having the legs-torso-arms-head separate would have been nice, but yeah nothing you can't fix with a sharp hobby knife and some greenstuff.

I Feel like looking at that unboxing it will be very hard to convert them unfortunately.

I will wait until I can watch a better unboxing that showes all the unmade figs so I can determine better.

Things like the duplicate alian really bother me because it stands out so much and the commanders.

On 12/12/2017 at 1:24 PM, Mgratton92 said:

From what I can tell all the troopers will have static poses?

Yep, if any of them move seek help.

The thing is FFG have stated that they want a fairly accessible game that isn't excluding players because they are time poor, hobby challenged or don't enjoy time spent painting and such. As such the limited number of poses allows for this, arms, head and torso, dab of glue and players are ready to play. You are not going to be expected to have to spend anything more than 30 minutes opening the box and getting the learn to play game happening.

As such the trade off is, that for players that care for these things, well they will have to spend a little more time and effort in cutting arms off, pinning them and adding details. However, if it matters why are you expecting FFG to do more and make multipart kits, rather than you spending the time, which you clearly enjoy to personalise your army and make it individual?

I am sure someone with a 3D printer may find an aftermarket service in making a packet of various heads.

I think you are applying criteria from a miniature company and trying to apply it to a game company. FFG is not a miniatures company. Though they are going to produce miniatures for the game.. They have not thus far created a game miniature with modelling potential. Back in the day there were "pieces" that were all the same size and shape. (Think little green army men) Yes you will have to paint them, but they are not interchangeable as say another company and their so call six-sided game system. If its a deal breaker for you. I doubt there is any reason to hang around here. I do not see FFG attempting to break into that market. But the deal breaker is a pretty lame threat, based upon the other things you get..(yes I am calling your troll out)

If assembling a model is your thing. You might want to stick with GW, Warlords, or Battlefront. I am sure I am missing others.. I will enjoy the static pose as I am sure they won't be duplicated more than three times in an army. I mean how many different poses of a stormtrooper do you need. Here he is lying on the beach.. here he is walking the runway at saks. Here he is delivering Christmas presents from the empire.. and Here he is blasting your noggin. Most miniature games don't offer that kind of customization. Let's face it the models are the draw the rules and the limitation of the d6 kinda makes the game.... well crap.. Make no bones about it they run it out there in many different settings.. But the competition is driving miniature sales.. not rules.

So in summation I concur with the notion that FFG is not trying to break into models builder market. and instead concentrate on the gaming (Tabletop) market. I would further state that you are not paying a premium for your models.. how many models do you get for $25 dollars. At one company (Gdub). That will not even buy you one static pose character model. You see it as a deal breaker.. but I see it as an exciting "new" tabletop game with a lore and fluff that predates any competitors. i further say, Static pose or not, it is instantly recognizable to a nine year old. Additionally, at this point, I cannot exactly tell how many of one single pose model I might have to paint. I do expect different models packaged in different boxes for like factions. I am also not sure of factions.. A rebel could be a scum.. after all at one point clone troopers were good guys and later became bad guys.. So we will see.. I think, hope army construction will be unique enough to limit the duplicates..

Its exciting time to be in table top miniatures. 40k has survived for so many years because you could always find a game, and the beautiful models. i am not saying that is going away.. but there is a new competitor in town. The only winner is the table top miniature player.

7 hours ago, Ralgon said:

Have a look at the spanish unboxing thread/vid.

It's kind of a dealbreaker for me on the rebel side, although i'm already looking at how i can supplement it wit IA minis where any scale difference thematically doesn't matter as much.

It will matter for los purposes

39 minutes ago, Tirion said:

It will matter for los purposes

Looking at the various comparison photos, likely not enough to be of consequence.

That said, they are going to have to be show and friendly only, to appease the rules lawyer's