1 minute ago, Green Knight said:

Ben claims she's a Nobody. But they could oc change that.

Iden Versio and Del Meeko are the primary characters in the battlefront II campaign, and the cut scenes at the end heavily hint she's their daughter. That would certainly make her a nobody, as those two are Imperial defectors.

1 minute ago, Darth Sanguis said:

That does seem to be the presumption. I suppose we'll know more once the campaign mode wraps up here in a few days.

So she's not a real person, but something from a computer game?

Just now, Darth Lupine said:

Iden Versio and Del Meeko are the primary characters in the battlefront II campaign, and the cut scenes at the end heavily hint she's their daughter. That would certainly make her a nobody, as those two are Imperial defectors.

Ah, ok. Good to know. Nothing is sacred when trying to hawk merchandise.

Just now, Green Knight said:

So she's not a real person, but something from a computer game?

Her parents are from a computer game, which is Disney sanctioned, so it's official canon.

10 minutes ago, Darth Lupine said:

Iden Versio and Del Meeko are the primary characters in the battlefront II campaign, and the cut scenes at the end heavily hint she's their daughter. That would certainly make her a nobody, as those two are Imperial defectors.

The new Battlefront II DLC reveals the actual daughter and debunks it.

4 minutes ago, Badly Browned said:

The new Battlefront II DLC reveals the actual daughter and debunks it.

Well dang. So much for that theory.

16 minutes ago, Badly Browned said:

The new Battlefront II DLC reveals the actual daughter and debunks it.

awwwwwwwe but but but MUH HYPE?

1 hour ago, Green Knight said:

I guess. TL;DR

I just wanted to use that line.

35 minutes ago, ricefrisbeetreats said:

I just wanted to use that line.

I know

I went to a midnight screening here in Australia last night, and I'm at work now, so any thoughts/impressions may be a result of 4 hours sleep and too much coffee.

Broad thoughts/impressions:

- This was the first of the recent Star Wars movies where I came out of the cinema unsure if I liked it or not. I'm still undecided. I liked TFA and LOVED Rogue One, but I had high expectations for TLJ and it didn't quite reach them.

- The Rey/Kylo/Luke plot is excellent; easily the highlight of the film. The Resistance scenes are dull in comparison, and the plotline with Finn and Rose on Canto Bight does not have a satisfactory resolution (think of the common plot complaints about Indy's role in Raiders of the Lost Ark). It got to the point where every time a Resistance scene started, I was impatient for the film to move back to Luke/Rey. This made the film quite uneven for me.

- I don't think the plot is as tight as other Star Wars films. The script is good, and certain character developments are excellent (especially Kylo), but the broad strokes just aren't as polished as they could be.

- Tonally, it doesn't hit the right note. The Resistance is absolutely decimated during this film, but it ends on a jarringly optimistic note of hope. It should've ended with despair for the Resistance fighters, after being reduced from thousands of fighters to a mere handful, but hey, whatever. Hope.

Specifics:

- Leia flying through space like Mary Poppins after being blasted out of the Raddus is easily the most ridiculous thing ever seen in a Star Wars film. I cringed hard.

- Not sure how they are going to treat Leia in the next film. She's the only one of the OT mains who is still alive, so they can't ignore her, yet they can't shoot any more scenes...

- The pursuit of the Raddus, which dominates the entire Resistance storyline, makes little sense. I'm not sure why the First Order doesn't just dispatch its TIE bombers to take out the Raddus, or drop a few Star Destroyers in front of the Raddus as it's crawling away. Similarly, the whole plot with Poe's mutiny could've been avoided if Holdo had been a little more transparent about her plans with her senior officers.

- Luke's opening scene is hilarious. Rey hands him the lightsaber, he simply shrugs and throws it over his shoulder. It pokes fun at all of us who have waited two years to see Luke do something profound during that scene. Biggest and funniest anti-climax of all time.

- Yoda is amazing. When he appeared, I braced myself for a terrible scene, but it was warm and emotional and I loved it. Go Yoda!

- The revelation that Rey's parents are nobodies is the best thing that could happen to this saga. It shows that you don't have to come from a special bloodline, like the Skywalkers, to be important. Anyone can achieve greatness, regardless of their lineage. A nice message for the kids.

- The Knights of Ren. Where were they? Not mentioned once during this film. Feels like a dangling plot thread. Are they the leftover students from Luke's Jedi Academy? (On a side note, I firmly believe that Luke fled from civilisation to avoid the litigation from the parents of the students at his academy. Duty of care was NOT followed.)

- Luke's scenes on Crait are ******* excellent. In fact, everything with Luke was excellent. He is struggling with the fact that a momentary lapse of judgement destroyed everything he'd built. And he learns that failure is part of being human. Such a great lesson.

That's all for now. I'm seeing it again tonight, so will hopefully form a more concrete opinion by then. I think if you go in with high expectations, you may be disappointed. If you have moderate expectations, you might be pleasantly surprised.

Yeah. You summed it up well Warden. It didn't make any sense that the first order couldn't take down one cruiser even if they launched ties and then collected them as they caught up. I'm fact for such a large fleet where we'e all the ties?

New ships: there was a new Neb frigate, some kind of new Corvette or other frigate. As well as another long old dreadnought.

Of course we saw the first orders new ships. Dreadnought could be cool in armada if they scaled it down a bit.

Snokes ship was too big and yet was destroyed so easily. Same with the dreadnought as well!

5 minutes ago, Corver said:

Snokes ship was too big and yet was destroyed so easily. Same with the dreadnought as well!

Oh yes, the destruction of Snoke's ship was pretty awesome. Beautiful visuals. That was a highlight for me.

Maybe I missed something but how did rey get from snokes ship back to the falcon?

Just now, Corver said:

Maybe I missed something but how did rey get from snokes ship back to the falcon?

She told Chewie to pick her up, but it happens off-camera.

Agreed on most things that Warden said, except the fact that this movie is for me among the best Star Wars ever, in the top3. It's quite long (2,5 hours), but I didn't see it.

We all said that one of the pursuing Star Destroyers could have anticipate the Resistance fleet with a couple of micro-jumps into hyperspace instead of ridiculously chasing them. But ok, they knew they would be out of fuel at any time, why not.

Regarding Leia's space flight... well... when I saw her "alive" in space, I thought she would use any kind of precognition power, and we would have seen the last 30 seconds backwards, and then she would have anticipate the TIE's attack. But no... yes, that was weird. But I liked the fact that she also developed her Force's skills.

Crayt was awesome, and intense. But... why didn't the Falcon just throw a couple of missiles on the badass canon at the very beginning of the battle, before being into dogfights?

Beside that, super FX effects, great actors, excellent mix of old-new heroes. Very very very sad about Luke's death

Round two on Sunday, can't wait.

It felt like a first draft. I would rank it around episode 3 just above 1-2.

Laser cannons fire like artilery guns with shots falling down in space.

IF you hyperjump through something it blows Up so rotj could have ended with one ship flying through the death star.

People survive in space now and Leia use force powers with No training.

Snoke is not explained. He is just some weird dark side guy with billions of credits, loyal followers and advanced battleships because the screenwriter needs it.

The first order fleet have 3 fighters total. Phasma is still undersused and die.

The casino subplot with a backstabbing thief is just a waste of time.

The "badass" moments can be seen a mile away and are overused.

The movie starts and enda with the first order having the resistance on the run. But Luke, snoke and phasma are dead, don't think anything else mattered. Oh wait ackbar died. 2.5 hours Long and mattered less than an episode of rebels

Yoda puppet is fun but he talks like a cartoon character and not a wise Jedi master.

Porgs are cute but overused.

No explanation too why the republic only consisted of 5 planets in the same system and nothing else.

I feel like the screenwriter think's the audience is stupid or unfamiliar with the original movies. Also so much stealing from empire. I laughted out loud att the "salt" scene. Yeah that is completly different....

Lamest moment ever in Star Wars:

Leia doing a Superman tribute in deep space.

Coolest scene in the movie:

Snoke's throne room battle.

18 minutes ago, Green Knight said:

Coolest scene in the movie:

Snoke's throne room battle.

Lightsabre quickly on off in the face!

1 minute ago, Corver said:

Lightsabre quickly on off in the face!

That was great!

The lightsaber boomerang in Rey's face as well ^^

Did the new A wings do anything?

3 minutes ago, Radaeon said:

Did the new A wings do anything?

The shot some ties and got taken down in the first 5 min. No more a wings for the rest of the movie ?. Got all excited for nothing, don't think the mon cal cruiser even fired a shot in the entire movie

8 minutes ago, Radaeon said:

Did the new A wings do anything?

No really, no.

They flew around a bit in the opening scene, but didn't get much screen time (that was reserved for super-Poe and Sitting Duck Bombers).

Then they kind of all blew up in the hangar when Kylo shot a missile into it.

End of the tale.

1 minute ago, jocke01 said:

The shot some ties and got taken down in the first 5 min. No more a wings for the rest of the movie ?. Got all excited for nothing, don't think the mon cal cruiser even fired a shot in the entire movie

The Mon Cal only sat around taking shots. Plus oc it was turned into Epic Battering Ram of Mega-Death.

Anyone count how many star destroyers the new order had? 5 would be my guess but could be up to 8. That radus must be speed 4 with engine techs!