7 hours ago, ricefrisbeetreats said:

Who knew that Luke tossing a piece of his past aside like it meant nothing would end up being a metaphor for the entire movie. Ha ha.

Ok, I'm coming around on the Last Jedi. It may be one of my favorite comedy films of all time right behind Army of Darkness, Mystery Men, and the Phantom Menace.

Poking my head into here to also admit that I enjoy Mystery Men. So many good, tiny parts, all executed super well! Tom Waits, Eddie Izzard, Geoffery Rush.... so good!

2 minutes ago, geek19 said:

Poking my head into here to also admit that I enjoy Mystery Men. So many good, tiny parts, all executed super well! Tom Waits, Eddie Izzard, Geoffery Rush.... so good!

Admit? It’s like a rite of passage for my friendship. If you can’t balance a tack hammer on your head, how can you head off your foe with a balanced attack? As for the watermelon...

The sillier the better I say.

Just now, ricefrisbeetreats said:

Admit? It’s like a rite of passage for my friendship. If you can’t balance a tack hammer on your head, how can you head off your foe with a balanced attack? As for the watermelon...

The sillier the better I say.

Until you learn to master your rage....

Here is how the Last Jedi should have went down:

1) The movie opens with the destruction of the Jedi Temple. Kylo Ren and his followers (former students) clash with Luke and the remaining students.

2) The destruction of the Jedi Temple was orchestrated by Snoke, who turns Kylo to the dark side after Kylo prematurely ends his training to rescue his mother from a trap set up by Snoke.

3) Upon finding his mother, Kylo also finds his father Han, and is also confronted by Snoke. Snoke is able to leverage Han's absence as a father in Kylo's life to turn Kylo to the dark side, as Kylo did not complete his training. Like Yoda, Luke warned him not to leave early to save his friends.

4) Luke shows up to save the day, but it is too late (Leia and Han escape), Kylo Ren has been turned. Kylo's act of killing Han in TFA now has a much richer backstory and deeper meaning than just killing the man to become stronger with the dark side. Leia was always there for Kylo, showing why he had difficulty and conflict within himself when confronted with the prospect of killing her later on in TLJ.

1 hour ago, Warlord Zepnick said:

Here is how the Last Jedi should have went down:

1) The movie opens with the destruction of the Jedi Temple. Kylo Ren and his followers (former students) clash with Luke and the remaining students.

2) The destruction of the Jedi Temple was orchestrated by Snoke, who turns Kylo to the dark side after Kylo prematurely ends his training to rescue his mother from a trap set up by Snoke.

3) Upon finding his mother, Kylo also finds his father Han, and is also confronted by Snoke. Snoke is able to leverage Han's absence as a father in Kylo's life to turn Kylo to the dark side, as Kylo did not complete his training. Like Yoda, Luke warned him not to leave early to save his friends.

4) Luke shows up to save the day, but it is too late (Leia and Han escape), Kylo Ren has been turned. Kylo's act of killing Han in TFA now has a much richer backstory and deeper meaning than just killing the man to become stronger with the dark side. Leia was always there for Kylo, showing why he had difficulty and conflict within himself when confronted with the prospect of killing her later on in TLJ.

Episode VIII: Episode 6.5: The Sequel's Prequel.

Sigh reading the Mandator wiki says its 2.5x the size of a RSD which is 2x the size of an ISD. So something 5x as large as an ISD was taken out by one lone single bomber.

4 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Sigh reading the Mandator wiki says its 2.5x the size of a RSD which is 2x the size of an ISD. So something 5x as large as an ISD was taken out by one lone single bomber.

One lone single really slow fragile bomber with gravity feed bomb racks in space in a universe that already had established bombers.

Well it would have been nice to see all these new toys for the Resistance actually...you know...do something.

New A-Wing? They fly out and get destroyed instantly

SF-17 Megafortress? Well they die well, i guess...

the new support ships? They fly til they run out of fuel and get used for target practice

the Raddus? Apart from doing it's kamikazi run, it achieves little

same with the new speeders-they fly out, get shot up and achieve basically nothing.

23 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

Sigh reading the Mandator wiki says its 2.5x the size of a RSD which is 2x the size of an ISD. So something 5x as large as an ISD was taken out by one lone single bomber.

Considering how several very large and armored ships were taken out by lucky hits from WWI & WWII bombers its not that unreasonable. What that resistance bomber did was more akin to a B-52 bomber dropping its entire payload on a single nimitz-class supercarrier and hitting with every single bomb. It's more amazing that the Imperial factions keep building these huge ships despite that.

I would like to point out the Poe was right in the beginning by pressing the attack on the Dreadnought. They never acknowledge it in the movie or reinstate his rank, but if he hadn’t destroyed that Mandator it would have shown up right behind them and picked the fleet off one by one. Heck, the bombers may have blown up the entire Raddus if they had been in the hanger when Kylo Wrecked it.

29 minutes ago, Frimmel said:

One lone single really slow fragile bomber with gravity feed bomb racks in space in a universe that already had established bombers.

Magnets, not gravity.

38 minutes ago, Lord Tareq said:

Considering how several very large and armored ships were taken out by lucky hits from WWI & WWII bombers its not that unreasonable. What that resistance bomber did was more akin to a B-52 bomber dropping its entire payload on a single nimitz-class supercarrier and hitting with every single bomb. It's more amazing that the Imperial factions keep building these huge ships despite that.

Okay. As someone who's read, watched and studied a lot of WWII naval history, I like your thought process, but its really not the same deal. The battle of Midway would show why you get that impression and why at times its wrong.
And realistically, you can drop a super nuke out of a bomber nowadays. The point is moot. But we also don't drop bombs out of bombers anymore with over the horizon anti-missile targeting.

But I agree with the building huge ships part. Which just makes these new trilogy ships even more ridiculous. Why make them uber large when you can blow them up so easily.

13 minutes ago, Blail Blerg said:

The point is moot. But we also don't drop bombs out of bombers anymore with over the horizon anti-missile targeting.

Who don’t? The US Air Force still operates the B-52, which can deploy conventional bombs or smart munitions. Once air superiority has been achieved, large conventional bombs are fair more economical than expensive smart missiles.

13 minutes ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

Who don’t? The US Air Force still operates the B-52, which can deploy conventional bombs or smart munitions. Once air superiority has been achieved, large conventional bombs are fair more economical than expensive smart missiles.

I'm here waiting for the tweet filled nuclear apocalypze. But if you want to bomb my dead body with conventional bombs thats probably ok.

(You do have a point though. Nice.)

2 hours ago, Frimmel said:

One lone single really slow fragile bomber with gravity feed bomb racks in space in a universe that already had established bombers.

By the way, they can't be gravity feed unless the Dreadnought had its own gravity well (which it doesn't)...

Does make me wonder: what happens if you drop a massive bunch of bombs near an Interdictor?

4 minutes ago, ImperialCaptain2017 said:

By the way, they can't be gravity feed unless the Dreadnought had its own gravity well (which it doesn't)...

Does make me wonder: what happens if you drop a massive bunch of bombs near an Interdictor?

The crew cries

23 minutes ago, Visovics said:

The crew cries

Or consequently laugh manically if you go by the Legends Interdictor capabilities.

7 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Or consequently laugh manically if you go by the Legends Interdictor capabilities.

As far as I can tell, it's only in fanon, like the TIE Fighter webvideo, that an interdictor can "reverse" the effects and repel all missiles.

29 minutes ago, Ironlord said:

As far as I can tell, it's only in fanon, like the TIE Fighter webvideo, that an interdictor can "reverse" the effects and repel all missiles.

I’m pretty sure that video was just Imperial propaganda.

2 hours ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

I’m pretty sure that video was just Imperial propaganda.

I think you meant: “Demonstration of the full shear potential of the mighty imperial navy”

37 minutes ago, Visovics said:

I think you meant: “Demonstration of the full shear potential of the mighty imperial navy”

Is that pronounced “Fake News?”

7 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

But we also don't drop bombs out of bombers anymore with over the horizon anti-missile targeting.

Large scale bombing runs still seems to be a thing for non-nuclear conflicts. It's used as a form of air support vs heavily entrenched targets instead of the mass bombing raid tactics of WW2.

Also, this is the same series that can't decide which is less ridiculous: a snubfighter destroying a power conduit in a moon sized superweapon, a snubfighter destroying a moon-sized space station outright with a hidden weakness, or a snubfighter destroying an entire planet and replacing it with a sun.

Each of which requires decreasing levels of space magic to accomplish.

5 hours ago, thecactusman17 said:

Large scale bombing runs still seems to be a thing for non-nuclear conflicts. It's used as a form of air support vs heavily entrenched targets instead of the mass bombing raid tactics of WW2.

Also, this is the same series that can't decide which is less ridiculous: a snubfighter destroying a power conduit in a moon sized superweapon, a snubfighter destroying a moon-sized space station outright with a hidden weakness, or a snubfighter destroying an entire planet and replacing it with a sun.

Each of which requires decreasing levels of space magic to accomplish.

I would just like to point out that Starkiller base is actually about the size of a small asteroid.

The first DS was 160 km in width. The second was 200, and SKB was 660. Our moon is 3474.2 km. While the sizes do still seem rather ridiculous, it is nowhere near the scale that is implied when one describes it as a 'planet'. Though according to the IAU it can be considered one, I think.

1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I would just like to point out that Starkiller base is actually about the size of a small asteroid.

The first DS was 160 km in width. The second was 200, and SKB was 660. Our moon is 3474.2 km. While the sizes do still seem rather ridiculous, it is nowhere near the scale that is implied when one describes it as a 'planet'. Though according to the IAU it can be considered one, I think.

"That's no asteroid" just doesn't quite have the same ring to it. "That's no dwarf planet" doesn't really do it as well.

16 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Magnets, not gravity.

“F-ing magnets, how do they work?”