5 minutes ago, MandalorianMoose said:Didn’t she line it all up after like 12 transports had already been shot down? I thought I remembered her just standing at the bridge watching them get blow’d up for like, a long time, before she started making any moves
Perhaps so. Maybe a minute? Screen time is horrible for knowing "real time"
So now we're complaining about how long it took for her to think of that ramming move when...none of us thought of it until we saw her do it. And you've had 34 years to think of the move, remember. Han hinted in "A New Hope" how treacherous hyperspace travel was.
Perhaps hyperspace ramming is practically impossible to pull off?
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It was only a last, desperate act, after all else had failed?
Either that, or it makes little sense.
Not sure anyone has posted this but saying 'god speed' (twice) was just wrong and annoyed me (even more than the silly flying Leia). God does not exist in SW, only the Force.
Still, very good film but still doesn't quite beat ESB but is the closest any of the other films have been.
37 minutes ago, Green Knight said:Perhaps hyperspace ramming is practically impossible to pull off?
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It was only a last, desperate act, after all else had failed?
Either that, or it makes little sense.
I believe in the Legends EU they talked about how micro-jumps, (jumps shorter than between star systems,) were very difficult. That would explain why the FO fleet didn’t just jump closer at any point to finish the Resistance off.
1 hour ago, Green Knight said:Perhaps hyperspace ramming is practically impossible to pull off?
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It was only a last, desperate act, after all else had failed?
Either that, or it makes little sense.
To be fair though, it is the Supremacy she rams... it's an awfully big target.
6 hours ago, Forresto said:Can we all raise a toast to that glorious son of a fish? To Ackbar!
50 BBY - 34 ABY
I can't believe he's gone.
Stopped by ASDA on my way home after and picked up a Black Series 3.75" Ackbar to be my Rebel mascot.
/massive sadface
1 hour ago, Green Knight said:Perhaps hyperspace ramming is practically impossible to pull off?
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It was only a last, desperate act, after all else had failed?
Either that, or it makes little sense.
The movie engagements are all awfully close ranged so you'd really just need to point the ship (or ships) in the right direction and let them loose.
Heck, a little star fighter like the X wing could be the right size to destroy a star destroyer. This is just eyeballing the size difference between Snoke's ship and the rebel cruiser.
2 hours ago, Gallanteer said:Not sure anyone has posted this but saying 'god speed' (twice) was just wrong and annoyed me (even more than the silly flying Leia). God does not exist in SW, only the Force.
Still, very good film but still doesn't quite beat ESB but is the closest any of the other films have been.
Yeah, I found that jarring.
2 minutes ago, Darth Lupine said:Yeah, I found that jarring.
I think the sw galaxy is big enough that you can make allowances for culture specific religions but yes agree it was jarring to have something so blatant.
Saw it again last night with the kids. Still loved it. I think im a lot happier with lukes arc now that ive seen it again.
Loved holdo.
Really liked captain kanady.
I am disappointed with captain phasmas parts. Such a great actor they should have done a lot more with her.
3 hours ago, MandalorianMoose said:That was for sure my favorite part of the film. Visually it was beautiful, and how the sound cut out like that? Amazing
My only question... why wait so long? Shes on a suicide mission already, why does she need to watch 90% of her friends die before she has the bright idea to ram them in a ship named after the dude that pioneered that move?
I'm also pretty disappointed that all hot-shot fighter pilot Poe Dameron could tell the transport pilots was essentially "Fly faster" and not "Hey, try to dodge the big, slow moving laser blasts."
2 hours ago, Gallanteer said:Not sure anyone has posted this but saying 'god speed' (twice) was just wrong and annoyed me (even more than the silly flying Leia). God does not exist in SW, only the Force.
Still, very good film but still doesn't quite beat ESB but is the closest any of the other films have been.
Agreed. It actually pulled me out of the movie.
2 hours ago, Gallanteer said:Not sure anyone has posted this but saying 'god speed' (twice) was just wrong and annoyed me (even more than the silly flying Leia). God does not exist in SW, only the Force.
Still, very good film but still doesn't quite beat ESB but is the closest any of the other films have been.
I agreed, very weird in a world where you standard line is "may the force be with you." But I guess when you have already said that dramatically, you gotta think of something else. And "forcespeed" just doesn't sound great?
8 minutes ago, Ophion said:I am disappointed with captain phasmas parts. Such a great actor they should have done a lot more with her.
I think after TFA she was unredeemable. She can't be bad *** in the slightest after she gives up a whole planet just because someone pointed a gun at her.
1 hour ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:I believe in the Legends EU they talked about how micro-jumps, (jumps shorter than between star systems,) were very difficult. That would explain why the FO fleet didn’t just jump closer at any point to finish the Resistance off.
Yeah, that did annoy me, but maybe you are right. And Thrawn usually used interdictors for it I believe.
The real big problem with that scene, is that they don't send their 10,000 TIEs of that task force to obliterate it. Kylo and his 2 buddies took out the effing bridge by themselves. Imagine was 100 could do. And don't give me bullcrap about "We Can't cover you from that far." Kylo took out all their fighters already, so it wouldn't be too hard, and when have the bad guys ever cared about losing TIE fighters???
But in general, all the space engagements were lazy writing. They just didn't care much about that aspect.
Edited by Tiberius the Killer2 hours ago, Gallanteer said:Not sure anyone has posted this but saying 'god speed' (twice) was just wrong and annoyed me (even more than the silly flying Leia). God does not exist in SW, only the Force.
Still, very good film but still doesn't quite beat ESB but is the closest any of the other films have been.
13 minutes ago, Darth Lupine said:Yeah, I found that jarring.
3 minutes ago, joespahr said:Agreed. It actually pulled me out of the movie.
Godspeed is just a word.
(and there are most certainly gods in the Star Wars. EWOK GODS!
)
This is just the best English translation of the story from a long time ago...
"Then i'll see you in Hel" Hel exists in Star Wars?
"We'll be sitting ducks!" Ducks exists in Star Wars? Have we seen ducks on screen?
Don't get tilted by turns of phrase guys.
Edited by Shadow345Might be late to the party on this one, but how did a guy sell out Finn and Rose when neither of them nor the voice over the headset (Poe) were privy to the ACTUAL plan to escape in transports? There’s no way he would’ve known THAT plan.
That was a plot hole big enough for the Resistance to escape into.
Poe blabbed about the transports being fuelled and abandoning the cruiser over the comm.
Well. Luke F***in' Skywalker. Its in top 2 for me, despite some disturbing factors like Leias flight, or the unnecessary Finn+co-girl casino party. Also, Id bash that girls face till its reduced to bloody pulp -.- Lot better than TFA, I wish JJ wasnt directing ep9. At least I got some story for my money, no ride on the nostalgia locomotive apart from some subtle things, like the music when the Falcon was chased in the tunnel. This film is both for new and old fanboys clearly, thank god not focusing on either group. It will be interesting to see how they'll make a 'New Rebellion' and defeat Supreme Kylo in a single episode. Mayby 5 hours film? Cmon, I wanna watch ep9 tomorrow!
43 minutes ago, Ophion said:Poe blabbed about the transports being fuelled and abandoning the cruiser over the comm.
Hold on. Are you telling me characters in a modern movie actually came to a logical conclusion based on only parts of the plan?
This movie is better than people are giving it credit for
(in all seriousness, thanks for pointing that out. I missed it)
Edited by Flavorabledeez2 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:
Godspeed is just a word.
(and there are most certainly gods in the Star Wars. EWOK GODS!
This is just the best English translation of the story from a long time ago...
Fair enough. Point well made. I still think it's out of place but thats just me. Its not as bad as the Chewie Tarzan roar from ROTJ.
Great film all the same. Yoda using the force is surely some foreshadowing of Luke shenanigans for Ep9.
On 12/15/2017 at 1:29 AM, DScipio said:Why does a female and male charakter always have to be either siblings or in a romantic relationship?
Well, they almost did both at the same time in Empire Strikes Back, but I guess there's still a taboo on that sort of thing.
I've been listening to the soundtrack while painting...
Boy they really should have gone into reshoot mode after Carrie died. But I'm struggling to come up with a way to make it not look like a chump move offing her. Maybe her and Luke could have had their last talk there and they could have saved Luke to lead the way into Ep 9. But I see what they need Leia for. They need someone to be the head of the new Rebellion. It wasn't going to be Luke.
I also dig the nobody lineage of Rey. I have a feeling it may have been something Disney shoved down their throats, because it's a good role model angle. But it's good to know that you don't need to be a Skywalker to be a Force in the Galaxy.
2 hours ago, Shadow345 said:"Then i'll see you in Hel" Hel exists in Star Wars?
"We'll be sitting ducks!" Ducks exists in Star Wars? Have we seen ducks on screen?
Don't get tilted by turns of phrase guys.
Yeah, I think there were some ducks on the waterways of Naboo. You see them take off when the gun gun sub surfaces.
Also:
On 12/15/2017 at 6:39 PM, melminiatures said:Bytheway, having worked for a week on the First Order Dreadnought 3D model (and still working on it). Seeing it blow up 5 minutes after it's appearance almost made me cry...
What are your thoughts on the First order repairing Smokes ship?
Or doing a Darth Maul and Smoke lives with metal legs?
So for people not following the new canon and don't understand the state of the galaxy heres my summary from The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi, the visual guides for both films, Bloodlines and the rest of the new canon and me stringing it together. Not 100 percent right but i've been reading a lot of wookiepedia and other sources recently so its fairly close.
Following Jakku and the Galactic concordance the New Republic demilitarised stripping it's fleet down by 80 to 90 percent. Most systems have to fend for themselves and crime sky rockets.
The New Republic Senate essentially gets jack done and never have control over the full galaxy, only a fraction with many systems becoming neutral or belonging to the neutered Imperial Remanant.
The First Order show up on the scene from the Unknown regions and the Imperial Remanent joins them. The First Order's efficiency and power frightens the New Republic and inspires Imperialists and Fascist sympathizers in the NR. They begin to send agents into the known galaxy to subvert opposition beginning a cold war with the NR who are unwilling to start a military conflict.
After Leia is revealed to be Vader's daughter and falls from grace in the NR senate, she forms the Resistance to counter the subterfuge of the FO.
When Starkiller Base wipes out the Hosnian System the New Republic leadership a large fleet is destroyed the New Republic is thrown into anarchy. There are still other fleets and fighter squadrons but they are scattered across many systems such as Chandrilla.
In the Last Jedi the First Order quickly takes advantage of the chaos and dispatch large fleets to all major systems where New Republic fleets are moored and obliterating them before they have time to regroup. There's a reason Poe says the dreadnought class star destroyers are fleet killers. Some fleets survived (the ones they called for help from Crait) and escaped to the outer rim so I suspect we will see the remnants of the New Republic Fleet in the next film, or at least parts of it.
By the time of the Last Jedi the First Order essentially has a stranglehold on huge swathes of the galaxy with most systems offering little resistance. The galaxy still hasn't recovered from the Galactic Civil War and I doubt most are prepared to fight another massive scale conflict.
Snoke and Hux are desperate to annihilate the Resistance because Leia and Rey are trying to bring Luke and the Jedi into the war, because they are symbols that could unify a capitulating galaxy. The First Order is winning the war.
What makes Ren killing Snoke so brilliant is that instead of this genius dark wizard controlling everything we have an impetuous kid running a massive military force with a general who wants to kill him. The First Order just super fascinating. I am beyond excited to see where they take this.