1 hour ago, thecactusman17 said:

I've gotten the sense of scale, and I agree great shots of the Fleets.

I'm now 110% certain that every ship can be easily represented with sliding scale at every size range. Even the Mandator dreadnaught.

I saw where you brought this up in another thread and I’m onboard with it.

I think actual scale would hold this game back. Let’s face it, Armada is not as popular as it should be. Part of that could be remedied by marketing the new ships seen in the newer movies using a sliding scale.

Anything to appeal to new players passing by a table with a game in progress, right?

I don't think anyone mentioned that the First Order has Tie Interceptors or is going to soon. Benecio Del Toro showed a hologram of one on board that ship he stop from Canto Bight.

Supreme Leader Snoke has a personal shuttle similar to a cross between the Lambda and Krennic's shuttle.

3 hours ago, outerrimrebel said:

The CR-90 and the Pelta are both built by Corellian Engineering Corp and so is the Ninka, hence the design elements that are shared. Additionally given the appearance of the same class in Battlefront II TLJ dlc, the ship comes stock that way and was not a one off modification. Just an observation, the outrigger turrets are too large to point defense and most likely are single turbolaser turrets like the CR-90. I agree that the ordnance pods are concussion missile launchers or proton torpedo launchers designed for heavy bombardment of ships or stations.

Pelta class was made by Kuat Drive Yards

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pelta-class_frigate

And the Battlefront visuals have to be taken with a grain of salt right now, since I doubt they were given more info than what the visual dictionary people were. We'll have to see what further info comes out.

Agreed the outrigger turrets are probably single light turbolasers. But that seems to what 'point defense' is on bigger ships now. Probably meant to be like the 5inch dual purpose guns warships in WW2 had, which could be used against smaller ships and as flak against aircraft. Though IRL those got backed up by various machine guns and light (20 to 40 millimeter) rapid fire cannons.

1 hour ago, Forresto said:

I don't think anyone mentioned that the First Order has Tie Interceptors or is going to soon. Benecio Del Toro showed a hologram of one on board that ship he stop from Canto Bight.

Supreme Leader Snoke has a personal shuttle similar to a cross between the Lambda and Krennic's shuttle.

Huh, I missed that. Something to look out for when I watch it again.

1 hour ago, Forresto said:

I don't think anyone mentioned that the First Order has Tie Interceptors or is going to soon. Benecio Del Toro showed a hologram of one on board that ship he stop from Canto Bight.

Supreme Leader Snoke has a personal shuttle similar to a cross between the Lambda and Krennic's shuttle.

Wasn’t there also a TIE Bomber in that Display?

11 minutes ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

Wasn’t there also a TIE Bomber in that Display?

Indeed there was.

2 hours ago, Forresto said:

Supreme Leader Snoke has a personal shuttle similar to a cross between the Lambda and Krennic's shuttle.

The one Finn and Rose flea in?

Personally I only remember that one but I might have been not the most concentrated watcher in that moment...

2 minutes ago, Captain_Nemo said:

Indeed there was.

The first order needs a better selection of fighters. I’m ready to see the First Order Interceptor and Bomber. Of course I also I also want to see updated B-Wings and Y-Wings. Also, brand new fighters are also good.

Honestly, I want all the ships in Episode 9.

24 minutes ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

The first order needs a better selection of fighters. I’m ready to see the First Order Interceptor and Bomber. Of course I also I also want to see updated B-Wings and Y-Wings. Also, brand new fighters are also good.

Honestly, I want all the ships in Episode 9.

I‘d also like to some fighters other than iterations of already known fighters, though the TIE silencer and the resistance bomber are on a good route, i would have been stoked for E wings and tie phantoms.

I think though that new designs not lifted from legends might have been nice aswell as some of the concept art looked really nice

Edit:

this makes me think of doing a custom ace card for the e wing with Poe Dameron as pilot...

1 hour ago, mithril2098 said:

Pelta class was made by Kuat Drive Yards

Huh... I always thought it was a CEC design.

Apparently the new Mega Star Destroyer is also a shipyards and arms factory according to the Incredible Cross Sections.

So we essentially have an explanation as to why the FO has so many new ships. I imagine the Supremacy orbits a planet, strip mines it, and produces a few Star Destroyers along with a substantial fighter complement for each.

11 hours ago, Forresto said:

I don't think anyone mentioned that the First Order has Tie Interceptors or is going to soon. Benecio Del Toro showed a hologram of one on board that ship he stop from Canto Bight.

Supreme Leader Snoke has a personal shuttle similar to a cross between the Lambda and Krennic's shuttle.

no guarantee that the interceptor and bomber in that display are first order stuff though.. it was part of a sales display for an arms dealer after all, and i'd imagine that the old imperial ships would still be in use and something an arms dealer would sell. DJ's comments at the time seem less aimed at explaining the images as they were using the obvious Galactic Empire connection of those two ships to make a point about how arms dealers sell to all sides, and that morality isn't quite as black and white as Finn assumes.

the fact those two craft appear right before the T-70 X-wing (which remember, is an older design at the time of TFA/TLJ) suggests to me that the interceptor and bomber shown are also meant to be older hardware, not current first order used stuff. at most the First Order might be building them for export/sale to allied groups. older hardware, which would be compatible with existing Imperial-leftover hardware, and which is outperformed by the latest FO equipment (so if those allies have a change of mind, the FO can still steamroller them)

45 minutes ago, Forresto said:

Apparently the new Mega Star Destroyer is also a shipyards and arms factory according to the Incredible Cross Sections.

So we essentially have an explanation as to why the FO has so many new ships. I imagine the Supremacy orbits a planet, strip mines it, and produces a few Star Destroyers along with a substantial fighter complement for each.

plus they had Republic Member worlds and politicians funneling them money and resources, as well as a good sized chunk of infrastructure palpatine had built in the unknown regions during the Empire's reign and a lot of the surviving Imperial remnants that didn't get destroyed in Operation Cinder formed their core.. the First Order is a huge organization, just one that has been hiding its full strength until the time is right. and that time was when they destroyed the Hosnian system, and with it the centralized government and nearly all of the Republic's modern fleet. what was left would be scattered and easy picking. as would the various regional forces the Republic relied on for defense. the FO probably erupted out of the Unknown regions (and probably from hiding places within allied regions, like the Corporate Sector ) conquering as they went.

that is probably what Leia meant when she said "we fought to the last" about her allies.. the Resistance was supposed to have cells all over the galaxy, and governments sympathetic to their cause that could send aid. but there was only silence. which means the other cells were gone, the sympathetic governments conquered or destroyed by the FO.

53 minutes ago, mithril2098 said:

plus they had Republic Member worlds and politicians funneling them money and resources, as well as a good sized chunk of infrastructure palpatine had built in the unknown regions during the Empire's reign and a lot of the surviving Imperial remnants that didn't get destroyed in Operation Cinder formed their core.. the First Order is a huge organization, just one that has been hiding its full strength until the time is right. and that time was when they destroyed the Hosnian system, and with it the centralized government and nearly all of the Republic's modern fleet. what was left would be scattered and easy picking. as would the various regional forces the Republic relied on for defense. the FO probably erupted out of the Unknown regions (and probably from hiding places within allied regions, like the Corporate Sector ) conquering as they went.

that is probably what Leia meant when she said "we fought to the last" about her allies.. the Resistance was supposed to have cells all over the galaxy, and governments sympathetic to their cause that could send aid. but there was only silence. which means the other cells were gone, the sympathetic governments conquered or destroyed by the FO.

All in the span of just a few days considering how TLJ picks up pretty shortly after TFA.

well from the comics and such, it seems like the FO was fairly active across the galaxy, just largely covertly. they probably wouldn't need to send star destroyers everywhere, just have their more covert forces join up with allied navies from former republic worlds. there probably was a fair number of assassinations and coups occurring too.

plus they show up with a big fleet of star destroyers (even if many are still old imperial stuff) in a galaxy where treaties had kept naval construction to frigate sizes or lower, and cruisers/star destroyers were rare (outside the now destroyed republic fleet). a lot of worlds probably just surrendered rather than fight.

it would be like the Imperial Fleet from the Galactic civil war attacking the pre-clonewars republic.. no real way to stop the juggernaut.

One thing is certain, The ships from TFA and TLJ now give plenty of new stuff for future Armada waves if FFG (hopefully) chooses to do so, otherwise we'll end up dredging animations, legends or (even worse) the prequels for more stuff. There were 4 resistance/rebel ships - Raddus, new CR90ish ship, new Neb ship and the new transports. 3 ships for the FO as well.

Wookieepedia has been getting updates to include the new ships. still fairly basic stuff though. posting links here for reference:

Resistance:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/MC85_Star_Cruiser

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vakbear-class_cargo_frigate

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Free_Virgillia-class_Bunkerbuster

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nebulon-C_escort_frigate

First Order:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Resurgent-class_Star_Destroyer

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandator_IV-class_warship

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mega-class_Star_Destroyer

Wasn't the Raddus used in the end of the galactic civil war and if so then if FFG include it in armada then the game would still remain in one era as even though I like the new trilogy ship designs (and prequel trilogy), I think mixed eras would get a little screwy with all the differant characters however in doing this the imperial players may lose out.

from the article..

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It was one of the last ships built before the Military Disarmament Act was signed by the Galactic Empire and New Republic . ^[1]

so looks like it was built a bit before Jakku, perhaps alongside the similarly sized Starhawks, but mostly served the Republic.

so it might be iffy timeline wise for inclusion.

the Vakbear -class cargo frigate and the Free Virgillia class "Corvette" though don't have specific timeline info just yet, and might well be older ships that could show up during the Galactic Civil War.

19 hours ago, Forresto said:

Apparently the new Mega Star Destroyer is also a shipyards and arms factory according to the Incredible Cross Sections.

So we essentially have an explanation as to why the FO has so many new ships. I imagine the Supremacy orbits a planet, strip mines it, and produces a few Star Destroyers along with a substantial fighter complement for each.

It's more time and energy efficient to mine asteroids than it is to mine a planet as you don't have the gravity well to climb in/out of.

I've finished my 3D model of the dreadnought

1 hour ago, melminiatures said:

I've finished my 3D model of the dreadnought

That looks incredible!!! What is the size? And how is the bottom part? Your work is absolutely amazing...

It is 40cm long.

And here you have some other views:

Mel you make me wish I had disposable income. Those models are sexy as ****.

Where is the Eclipse!?

Now that the variety of ships in the sequel era has been adressed, could it be possible that we get a second core set in the vein of X Wing?

So basiscally the Ninka and the Vigil vs the Finalizer? I'd be pretty excited for that!