15 minutes ago, thecactusman17 said:

I really like those Rebel ships. They will definitely fit right in next to any existing Rebel fleet from the flotillas all the way up to the Raddus . If FFG is really insistent on scaling, the Raddus would be a great Rebel counterpart to an SSD.

I'm not a big fan of the Mandator-class, but that's more just because the uninspiring visual design. Honestly, just putting the cannons on top would have been a far better and more dynamic decision. That said, it's not so awful that I couldn't enjoy it with the right model and rules.

The Finalizer is great. Lots of dynamic design elements, and it simultaneously hearkens back to that first ISD while looking very different by comparison (and not just the size). The Finalizer would be an awesome addition to Armada with a sliding scale.

Until I see an original ISD and the Finalizer or Mandator side-by-side with a clear size difference, there's no good reason to not just employ the sliding scale to the freaking max with both of these ships. These aren't Super Star Destroyers, no harm is done by putting both on the tabletop.

I would say the Raddus would make a better counterpart to the finalizer. They are both around 3000 meters, compared to the 19,000 meter SSD

1 hour ago, Drasnighta said:

Wait, wait, wait...

its name clearly ends with “-trix”, but someone calls it Male?

Maybe it is a trap?

Everyone is missing the best part... Finalazer's commander is Captain Canady! Must be based on Norm...

26 minutes ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

I would say the Raddus would make a better counterpart to the finalizer. They are both around 3000 meters, compared to the 19,000 meter SSD

I agree with you on that. If FFG takes Armada into the sequel trilogy, the Raddus pairs nicely with the Finalizer (and the Fulminatrix?). The SSD is still on its own scale (as is the Supremacy). The question becomes - does an XL base come into play? A VSD is on a medium base and is 900m long. The Interdictor is 1600m and is still a medium base. The ISD is on a large and is the same 1600m as the Interdictor. Both MC80s were 1200m long. So... Would the Raddus and Finalizer, both at 3000m get the same large base as the ISD?

Taking a second look I really like the design of Ninka, feels like an up-sized corvette. Possibly what a 'Corellian battleship' is suppose to look like or close to it. (it was mentioned in the RTJ novel as the Rebel fleet was jumping to Endor)

32 minutes ago, Khyros said:

I agree with you on that. If FFG takes Armada into the sequel trilogy, the Raddus pairs nicely with the Finalizer (and the Fulminatrix?). The SSD is still on its own scale (as is the Supremacy). The question becomes - does an XL base come into play? A VSD is on a medium base and is 900m long. The Interdictor is 1600m and is still a medium base. The ISD is on a large and is the same 1600m as the Interdictor. Both MC80s were 1200m long. So... Would the Raddus and Finalizer, both at 3000m get the same large base as the ISD?

They could be the first Huge base ships. So long as they don’t copy X-Wing Epic play, they could put them on the same bases as the X-Wing Epic ships.

3 hours ago, Gottmituns205 said:

*waiting for the inevitable battle of en...whatever...when the galaxy throws together a massive fleet to combat the first order."

To be honest, I would be disappointed if the rest of the New Republic didn’t show up in Episode 9. The Starkiller Attack was the Equivalent of Pearl Harbour except they hit Washington D.C. with a nuke.

It would be ridiculous if the New Republic didn’t come looking for blood.

From the new SWBF2 trailer:

@Khyros the interdictor we have is closer to 1000-1200 meter range.

16 minutes ago, melminiatures said:

From the new SWBF2 trailer:

Looks like the Ninka and the Raddus. What is the debris the Ninka is flying through?

56 minutes ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

To be honest, I would be disappointed if the rest of the New Republic didn’t show up in Episode 9. The Starkiller Attack was the Equivalent of Pearl Harbour except they hit Washington D.C. with a nuke.

It would be ridiculous if the New Republic didn’t come looking for blood.

I’m worried that we are supposed to believe that the starkiller attack wiped out the new republic fleet.

1 minute ago, ninclouse2000 said:

I’m worried that we are supposed to believe that the starkiller attack wiped out the new republic fleet.

That is sadly what I felt like they were trying to convey by showing multiple ships get vaporized during that scene.

Just now, Tearscream said:

That is sadly what I felt like they were trying to convey by showing multiple ships get vaporized during that scene.

I would buy that the main Fleet was wiped out. But no government would have NO fast response forces stationed in several systems

I thought they said somewhere that the New Republic only had the one fleet because most systems had their own defense fleets.

Even if that was the “only” New Republic Fleet, we could still see hundreds of Home Defense ships show up from across the galaxy. Be pretty cool actually.

19 minutes ago, TallGiraffe said:

@Khyros the interdictor we have is closer to 1000-1200 meter range.

What Interdictor Star Destroyer is it based off of then if it's not based on the Interdictor Star Destroyer by KYD? Though if you have a good answer, I'm really open to it because it pisses me off that it's not the same size as the ISD seeing as it's built on the ISD chassis.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor-class_Star_Destroyer

4 minutes ago, Church14 said:

I would buy that the main Fleet was wiped out. But no government would have NO fast response forces stationed in several systems

I mean...pearl harbor.

4 minutes ago, Church14 said:

I would buy that the main Fleet was wiped out. But no government would have NO fast response forces stationed in several systems

2 minutes ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

I thought they said somewhere that the New Republic only had the one fleet because most systems had their own defense fleets.

Even if that was the “only” New Republic Fleet, we could still see hundreds of Home Defense ships show up from across the galaxy. Be pretty cool actually.

I have got to catch up on the newer books...

That would be fantastic. I am actually pleasantly surprised at how much I like the new resistance ships. They may not be that original, but that isn't always a bad thing.

Just now, dominosfleet said:

I mean...pearl harbor.

There was still the Atlantic fleet, which a portion of was quickly sent to the Pacific.

2 hours ago, GrandAdmiralCrunch said:

I would say the Raddus would make a better counterpart to the finalizer. They are both around 3000 meters, compared to the 19,000 meter SSD

I don't think the Finalizer should be epic scale when the SSD can easily be created with sliding scale (a version roughly 3 times the size of the ISD model looks gigantic no tabletop, from experience).

1 minute ago, dominosfleet said:

I mean...pearl harbor.

To be fair to the point, all of the large carriers and enough of the remainder of the fleet was out, and un damaged from the attack that there was still a sizeable threat in the pacific that didnt allow japan to operate with impunity. Yes the older battleships and cruisiers and many destroyers were put out of the fight to varing degrees. I think that that was the point, not they they were annihlated in total, or that there were other full fleets. But that theres a good chance there are enough ships that didn't get lazered to rally together and be the core of a threat to the FO.

3 hours ago, Visovics said:

If you watch some of the TV spots, it really looks like this is going in a different way than ESB.

The film starts with a planetary evacuation as AT-AT like vehicles march on, the good force using protagonist training with a master...

While it's possible to follow the same formula and still feel like an original film I sure do wish I had your optimism

Cheers to hoping I'm well in the wrong, but it feels the same.

6 minutes ago, Noosh said:

To be fair to the point, all of the large carriers and enough of the remainder of the fleet was out, and un damaged from the attack that there was still a sizeable threat in the pacific that didnt allow japan to operate with impunity. Yes the older battleships and cruisiers and many destroyers were put out of the fight to varing degrees. I think that that was the point, not they they were annihlated in total, or that there were other full fleets. But that theres a good chance there are enough ships that didn't get lazered to rally together and be the core of a threat to the FO.

Mostly pointing out that it's not unreasonable to see a situation where a military has a strong portion of their forces in one spot and is devastated by a surprise attack. Of course it's not the entire fleet but it could explain why they chose those 5(?) planets specifically to hit. There's plenty wrong with FO, lets not get into "that would never happen" nonsense when 76 years ago something similar did happen to our own fleet.

19 minutes ago, Khyros said:

What Interdictor Star Destroyer is it based off of then if it's not based on the Interdictor Star Destroyer by KYD? Though if you have a good answer, I'm really open to it because it pisses me off that it's not the same size as the ISD seeing as it's built on the ISD chassis.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Interdictor-class_Star_Destroyer

Go to the canon tab of the same page. The Interdictor cruiser (as opposed to SD) is listed as 600 meters. I believe the one in Rebels is larger than that, but it is still smaller than an ISD, as can be seen in Rebels where several of them are shown side-by-side with ISDs. The Interdictors of the TV show are slightly longer than a Quasar, I think.

3 hours ago, KaLeu said:

I bet the shield can rotate around the axis - would definitely be a nice eye catcher

Vigil looks like it's based on the old Recusant-Class

And a lot like the MC30 from our game, too. Modified heavily, of course, but especially the front part looks familiar.

I rather like it. Reminds me a bit of the Assault Frigate Mk 1, too.

4 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Go to the canon tab of the same page. The Interdictor cruiser (as opposed to SD) is listed as 600 meters. I believe the one in Rebels is larger than that, but it is still smaller than an ISD, as can be seen in Rebels where several of them are shown side-by-side with ISDs. The Interdictors of the TV show are slightly longer than a Quasar, I think.

Gah, I hate how the wiki defaults to the Legends... Which is of course what I grew up with, so that's what I know, and I fail to see the "Canon" tabs. Thanks - that actually helps me. Now the question is why is the model bigger than a VSD (and now I have to double check the "canon" size of a VSD... which is <1600m, so specific).