Tier 1 tournament strength imperial lists

By Blail Blerg, in Star Wars: Armada

4 hours ago, GiledPallaeon said:

. I can tell you that Roquax's version, known to some as the RCAF, is actually a Dodonna list and put Corran Horn squarely at the top of my Do Not F*** With List.

I'd love to find a way to use him. If this list available somewhere?

9 hours ago, Drasnighta said:

The last formal iteration is buried in the Article prediction thread.

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Haha, that is tantamount to saying it is deleted :D

26 minutes ago, Irishmadcat said:

I'd love to find a way to use him. If this list available somewhere?

Vassal Autumn tourney spreadsheet.

Keys: 6 activations, Yavaris and Adar.

Gives. Corran tremendous flexibility.

2 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Finally, something MC30s won't like... :D

Eh. She's generally good for one extra damage on an MC30. What she really does is force down one shield facing of your choosing, which is great if you have a big ship shot following up into that arc. I very rarely see a Rebel list with both a Norra-enhanced bomber ball and a big XI7 follow-up shot into that same arc, though.

If you're looking for something MC30's don't like, let me introduce you to my friend the Rogue... :)

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15 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Eh. She's generally good for one extra damage on an MC30. What she really does is force down one shield facing of your choosing, which is great if you have a big ship shot following up into that arc. I very rarely see a Rebel list with both a Norra-enhanced bomber ball and a big XI7 follow-up shot into that same arc, though.

If you're looking for something MC30's don't like, let me introduce you to my friend the Rogue... :)

I see you are ignoring Luke...or perhaps those memories are repressed? :P Admo isn't worried too much about him, but your other MC30s...

5 hours ago, Darth Veggie said:

Haha, that is tantamount to saying it is deleted :D

As I stated elsewhere:

Anyone really interested to truly learn and try will find it ?

It's a little sad that even in a forum topic about strong Imperial lists - it's the Rebels that have multiple showings and unequivocally the best tourney record.

I just want parity. It would be nice to go into a tourney as an Imp, not knowing that this decision alone drops my chances. :(

That being said, I have faced Brick's GH/Yavaris list and while it is a great list - he flies it with practiced precision.

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But rebels are the good guys...

2 minutes ago, Space_Cowboy17 said:

But rebels are the good guys...

Sure, if you consider a bunch of traitorous terrorists ****-bent on reinstating an oppressive theocratic government through any means the good guys.

I've had pretty good success with my list at both Gencon and my Regional, especially considering how scrubby I am at this game.

Most Wanted, Contested Outpost, Solar Corona
ISD2 w/ Jerry, GT, ECM, LS, XI7, Avenger
GSD1 w/ OE, ET, APT, Demo
Raider1 w/ ER
Gozanti w/ Jamming
Gozanti w/ Comms
HR
TIE/ln x4
400pts

I'd probably say it's T2 because it's not a "zomg zerg" type list, but I find it has a really good response to almost anything out there (except of Jeff Berling's Nationals winning list). Having the Demo means people don't really want you going first. Having 5 activations including a fat ISD means people don't want you going second. The TIEs will lose any squadron fight, but the Jamming Field is there to slow the bleeding - the goal is not to win, it's to tie up their points and strategy for as long as possible. If it's a super heavy squadron list, the Raider's double black flak can swoop in to help thin out the numbers so the TIEs can continue to occupy the squads. Otherwise, the Raider can get really good use out of a single pop of external racks, preferably coupled with a CF dial and double arc for 9 dice. I typically place him on the inside track of the ISD to make anyone suffer for trying to get out of the front arc. I set the Demo up on the far side and go around speed 3+boost for awhile to get around and do Demo things. All the while I don't try to be sneaky with the ISD - everyone knows exactly where it's going.

What I find is that people get caught off guard though with the Demo early on from Jerry - nothing like double clicking that first joint, using a nav dial to double click that second, and then zoom in at speed 3 to attack the broadside at close range, then boost to line up the double arc for the next turn. Likewise they seem to get caught off guard around turn 5-6 when the ISD does a 90degree turn and keeps their ship that's trying to run away in the front arc at close range. It does likely mean that the ship will be activated first and might get to long range, but typically those 4 reds are enough to finish it off anyways. The only thing I really don't like seeing is a flotilla heavy fleet as I can't out activate them and I struggle to consistently kill them (the Raider is okay at it, but isn't the best at getting into close range unless he gives me player 1).

20 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

Sure, if you consider a bunch of traitorous terrorists ****-bent on reinstating an oppressive theocratic government through any means the good guys.

Well, I wouldn’t call it oppressive.

Certainly ineffectual and bloated. Tedious and ponderous...

But a certain amount of “glass house” vs “stones” needs to be considered when it comes to calling the republic oppressive...

29 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

Sure, if you consider a bunch of traitorous terrorists ****-bent on reinstating an oppressive theocratic government through any means the good guys.

Also:

I do.

and I haven’t been silenced yet!

35 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

Sure, if you consider a bunch of traitorous terrorists ****-bent on reinstating an oppressive theocratic government through any means the good guys.

This guy knows the truth!

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9 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Also:

I do.

and I haven’t been silenced yet!

Of course a guy who has a workshop full of enslaved elves would support a government that sanctioned the use of a slave army.

43 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

Sure, if you consider a bunch of traitorous terrorists ****-bent on reinstating an oppressive theocratic government through any means the good guys.

But the rebels are the good guys...

@Megatronrex

BTW you are the worst Nemesis (of which I have had many), I have ever had,

Just now, Space_Cowboy17 said:

But the rebels are the good guys...

@Megatronrex

BTW you are the worst Nemesis (of which I have had many), I have ever had,

You really thinks so? Then their fiendish propaganda has gooten to you already. Its too late to save you.

1 minute ago, Space_Cowboy17 said:

But the rebels are the good guys...

@Megatronrex

BTW you are the worst Nemesis (of which I have had many), I have ever had,

You would think that.

@Space_Cowboy17

Why, what did I do this time?

52 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

Sure, if you consider a bunch of traitorous terrorists ****-bent on reinstating an oppressive theocratic government through any means the good guys.

To quote the old college days of Rebels v Death Stars: scorrrrrrrre boarrrrrrrd! Scorrrrrrrre boarrrrrrrd!

4 minutes ago, geek19 said:

To quote the old college days of Rebels v Death Stars: scorrrrrrrre boarrrrrrrd! Scorrrrrrrre boarrrrrrrd!

Just because you think you won doesn't make you the "good guys." Mao Zedong, Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, and Ho Chi Minh were all winners. That doesn't make them "good guys."

5 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

Just because you think you won doesn't make you the "good guys." Mao Zedong, Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, and Ho Chi Minh were all winners. That doesn't make them "good guys."

History is written by the victors. I’m sure the rebels made all the history books say they were heroes. There’s a coup,e of interesting chapters in the star wars essential guide to warfare that are from the imperial perspective.

8 hours ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

I see you are ignoring Luke...or perhaps those memories are repressed? :P Admo isn't worried too much about him, but your other MC30s...

Por que no los dos? :)

6 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

Just because you think you won doesn't make you the "good guys." Mao Zedong, Genghis Khan, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, and Ho Chi Minh were all winners. That doesn't make them "good guys."

On a related note, I think there was SOME star wars comic back in the day where Ewoks were like bloodthirsty cannibals. Not my fault Imperial Storm troopers taste like chicken.

Just now, geek19 said:

On a related note, I think there was SOME star wars comic back in the day where Ewoks were like bloodthirsty cannibals. Not my fault Imperial Storm troopers taste like chicken.

I can't really hold a grudge against the Ewoks. They were simply pawns that the conscienceless Rebels used trickery to dupe into believing a false god. And human flesh tastes like pork, not chicken.

33 minutes ago, Space_Cowboy17 said:

But the rebels are the good guys...

@Megatronrex

BTW you are the worst Nemesis (of which I have had many), I have ever had,

31 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

You would think that.

@Space_Cowboy17

Why, what did I do this time?

Well since you won't clarify I'll just assume that by "worst" you mean best and that it just hurts your rebel sensibilities to call me that.

Thank you for the compliment.

20 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:

I think you're underestimating the power of Sloane rerolling crits. You have like a 90-95% chance of getting a useful effect out of each of those squadrons' shots. The scatters--along with judicious flying--protect from flak quite effectively.

Yes, their direct damage output is less than a bomber's, but 1) ALL of your extremely specialized antisquadron wing is now also effective against ships, and 2) don't underestimate the indirect damage dealt by exhausting a brace/evade/scatter before an Avenger shot.

This is exactly why I fear heavy squad Sloane lists (and cant imagine why anyone running Sloane wouldn't take as many blue-AS squads as possible, flavor to style) - you ARE going to do 1 damage or flip a token. An ISD will give you 4-5 chances to do that and has the added benefit of being a damnable ISD. At best my Rebel lists against well played Sloane lists I've won 6-5.