Opinions with choice for regonial

By Jbuzzsaw, in X-Wing Squad Lists

Working on my build for regional coming up and not sure if I like ryad, quickdraw, or fel.

Ryad is really good with ptl and all them green, quick is sorta like ryad but gets to shoot back if hurt but less tolken and fel has always been good but had fallen out of favor but now that slam and jk5000 been nerfed might be time for his return.

Thoughts?

Edited by Jbuzzsaw

Any feed back as to if fel is back or if countess is better then quickdraw?

I would say it depends on the rest of your build. Fel can be super effective when there are other hard hitting / support targets on the table. If he can get focus fired without your other ships being a threat, than he will crumple, AT's or not. Quickdraw is always a solid choice (along with any TIE SF really), and is really good at being ye' classic stand alone Imp Ace. Hits hard, can take a few shots, and isn't afraid to get one shot like Soontir. Ryad is Ryad, but generally you need some other good firepower to back her up or she can melt too.

So it really depends on what the rest of your setup is and what ship fits in the best with it. (I have this problem with rebel building all the time)

Best,

Cow

12 minutes ago, Jbuzzsaw said:

Any feed back as to if fel is back or if countess is better then quickdraw?

Fel is... not entirely back, but is being seen winning in the hands of some good players. It's a much more dangerous world now than when Fel was dominant before, but he's come up for air.

Of the two, I think Quickdraw is better than Countess. Countess suffers from the same issue that Fel has in that these are fragile frames. Quickdraw can take a hit or two, and with the ability hopefully make somebody pay for those shields.

I was thinking about flying 2 of 3with palp shuttle or 2 of 3 with omega leader or inquisitor perhaps.

The correct answer to this question is "it depends on the rest of your list". Nobody can truly effectively answer that question without knowing what else you are flying.

For example, if you have Vessery then it's QD or Countess. If you have Palp then it's Soontir or Countess. If you have RAClo then QD or Soontir, depending on the type of RAClo.

All three ships are great. Soontir is probably the lease viable of the three in general right now, by again we need more info on what you are flying with it.

So I was leaning towards:

Ryad-ptl, x-7,twin ion

Shuttle-palp,collision

Fel-prl,title,auto thrusters, hull

Or replace fel with quickdraw?

Other idea was 3 aces like ryad, fel and omela leader

If you're taking Palpatine, then Soontir Fel will probably do you more good than Quickdraw; Soontir is more dependent on the one critical dice roll that Palpatine can fettle for you, whilst Quickdraw (a) carries her own mods with her in the form of the fire control system, and (b) lacks a good defensive roll for palpatine to modify (especially since it's 'split' via lightweight frame).

Quickdraw doesn't need palpatine as much as Fel, but she also doesn't gain much from him effectively, either. I think Ryad and Fel will probably do you best.

With Omega Leader instead of Palpatine....hmm. Not sure enough. Fel really, really likes that dice modifier in his back pocket. On the other hand, it is much cheaper than a lambda with the Emperor on board, so you've got points to spend on Ryad.

Ryad is at max as is would add a hull to omega to try to make sure it survives as much as possible

4 hours ago, Jbuzzsaw said:

So I was leaning towards:

Ryad-ptl, x-7,twin ion

Shuttle-palp,collision

Fel-prl,title,auto thrusters, hull

Or replace fel with quickdraw?

Other idea was 3 aces like ryad, fel and omela leader

Anyone else have thoughts on this, or maybe remove shuttle add omega standard with a hull also with ryad and quickdraw

I'd go trip Aces: Ryad, QD, and whoever else fits. Palp still has a place, but it isn't as all-encompassing as it once was.

2 hours ago, Jbuzzsaw said:

Anyone else have thoughts on this, or maybe remove shuttle add omega standard with a hull also with ryad and quickdraw

I find hull Omega very strong, especially if you're going to face bombs.

Ryad could be something different, Defenders are awfully predictable versus Fenn Rau (protectorate) and other ships like him. You could make an argument about Omega "needing" palpatine, so you could swap Ryad for Yorr Shuttle to eat stress off of QD red moves and have the Emperor. Trip aces and Palp aces play way differently though.

I can see the point made now about how fel and others need shuttle for dice mod, since most feel that having 3 aces would be better how about this then instead of ryad, fel, shuttle:

vader-ptl,title adv target, twin ioin

fel-ptl,hull,title,auto thrusters

inquistor-ptl,title,auto thrusters

I know some would out fit vader differetly but I tried with ptl and sometimes a third action is nice to have for TL, focus and evade as example

On 12/7/2017 at 5:37 PM, Jbuzzsaw said:

I can see the point made now about how fel and others need shuttle for dice mod, since most feel that having 3 aces would be better how about this then instead of ryad, fel, shuttle:

vader-ptl,title adv target, twin ioin

fel-ptl,hull,title,auto thrusters

inquistor-ptl,title,auto thrusters

I know some would out fit vader differetly but I tried with ptl and sometimes a third action is nice to have for TL, focus and evade as example

I feel intensity would work better, saves you a point, you bet that 3rd action, and your free to grab the target lock.

Played palp aces with ryad and fel this weekend. Played against alpha strike vader,quickdraw, backdraft all with cruise missle. In end I had taken 2 dmg ryad, 1 on fel, and 7 on shuttle. O killed vader and quickdraw and had 2 dmg on backdraft before time. Am uncertain if 3 aces would have been better but am still uncertain if fel is better than quickdraw.