I'm really excited for the kimogila but I'm not seeing a lot of talk about it. At 29 points, a ps 10 Torani with VI, title, long range scanners seems like a decent value and awesome way to disrupt ships like Ptl Kylo. If the points are there, I think it will be a brutal harpoon boat.

Anybody else stoked?

Kylo is excited for the kimogila too. Wet noodles can actually hurt a B-Wing!

it's a B-wing, we've seen it twice before already

it has a neat gimick but not on a very good platform for it.

The bullseye arc will be difficult to line up. 1agi ships suffer as it is when it comes to jousting and this thing has to joust even more precisely than normal ships to get real benefit out of it. It will go up in flames very, very quick. Plus the top pilot skill is easily ignored because the way its worded lets you discard all tokens even if you have no tokens.

That being said though if you can get a cheap-ish one you could probably make it the 2nd threat in a list and it wont be focused down because of the obvious other threat.

8 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

it's a B-wing

Sadly for the original, that one is Powercreep-adjusted.

I wish the dial was a little different. No 1-straight and add a green 4-straight would have been a lot more interesting. Like a Defender without the white-K, almost. Instead, it's just a TIE Bomber, but with Red 1s instead of nothing. Eh. Whatever.

Loaded with stuff, they'll die to fast. That's what happens with B-Wings. Without stuff, I'm not sure if they'll matter. Either of the unique pilots with just VI seems like a reasonable point buy, but nothing really special.

The Bullseye arc might be good, however. We know that it's potent if you can get arc on something, at least against certain kinds of ships (Defenders, for example), but we don't exactly know how hard it'll be to get arc in the game.

Its a b-wing with greens at 3-speed for one point.

At least, may be funny.

50 minutes ago, urbanyeti said:

I'm really excited for the kimogila but I'm not seeing a lot of talk about it. At 29 points, a ps 10 Torani with VI, title, long range scanners seems like a decent value and awesome way to disrupt ships like Ptl Kylo. If the points are there, I think it will be a brutal harpoon boat.

Anybody else stoked?

It's my 3rd fav in the line up. I play Imps the most, so I'm too excited about the gunboat and silencer to pay much attention to the gila monster. I'm sure it will be a hoot in Epic when I finally get to it.

Torani + VI + title is going to be good. Leave him naked after that to keep his point cost down.

His ability is quite strong and a powerful force multiplyer. This ship will suffer from a key weakness, you have to be a good flyer to get the most out of him. People at least on these forums tend to default to idiot proof ships.

1 minute ago, Icelom said:

Torani + VI + title is going to be good. Leave him naked after that to keep his point cost down.

His ability is quite strong and a powerful force multiplyer. This ship will suffer from a key weakness, you have to be a good flyer to get the most out of him. People at least on these forums tend to default to idiot proof ships.

The competitive meta in general defaults to idiot proof ships

This is why another bwing isn't exciting. Turrets will devour it and you really can't do much about that

2 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

The competitive meta in general defaults to idiot proof ships

This is why another bwing isn't exciting. Turrets will devour it and you really can't do much about that

That's true for every game. Forgiving and idiotproof options drown the rest

35 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

The competitive meta in general defaults to idiot proof ships

This is why another bwing isn't exciting. Turrets will devour it and you really can't do much about that

Unlike the b-wing wing you don't need any additional points to make the ship useful. Stripping tokens at ps 10 is extremely strong. (I love wes) add in the stressing title and the other benefits of the bulls eye if you fly it well it's much stronger then a b-wing.

Of course time will tell, and I am a strange guy (I like pre buff m3a's).

It's effectiveness really depends on the local meta into which it is played. If the local meta is filled with PS11 Vader or Quickdraw then the Kimogila might as well be a glorified B-Wing. Against PS9 or lower, however, then Torani can deal a lot of damage provided the bullseye is used correctly.

The ship might also find a niche against large base ships.

The generic is only 22 points (with long range scanners, that's a nice touch) and forcing a ship to spend an action to dodge one of many bullseye might be worth it by itself. Someone could field 3 of these and still have 34 points for an elite combined with a PS initiative.

Still, time will tell.

I'm not excited for the ship per se , but I'm still planning on picking one up. The thing that interests me is when the new waves come out there's usually something that is getting overlookd/under-hyped like the Kimo. This ship seems like in the right hands of a dedicated player that is willing to put the time in can shape this tin can into a deadly assassin.

Let everyone else run towards the Silencer and StarWing, etc. You do you @urbanyeti , you do you.

2 hours ago, Vineheart01 said:

Plus the top pilot skill is easily ignored because the way its worded lets you discard all tokens even if you have no tokens.

Just consider it like a tweaked Wes. Wes's ability doesn't do anything if the target doesn't have tokens either, but its still good. With Torani, you have to have them in the bullseye, but you affect every enemy in the arc. If they don't have any tokens, they are fine just like Wes Janson, but if they do have applicable tokens, even multiple tokens, like an /x7, PtL or Attani stacker, then they have to weigh the decision to lose their Evade and Focuses or take damage. Depending on how many tokens they have, they may opt for the additional damage.

Being that you are shooting at PS 8 - 10, you are probably catching people with tokens. Also, since your original target was in the arc when you shot, they were unable to spend any tokens in defense against your attack, unlike someone can do against Wes.

34 minutes ago, Force Majeure said:

there's usually something that is getting overlookd/under-hyped like the Kimo.

The Rebel Shuttle is the overlooked ship.

I'm getting two of those little buggers. I don't think it's as overlooked as the Kimo. The Flight Assist Astro alone will drive purchases for fans of the X-wings. The coordinate action is strong enough that you'll see that ship on tables and in a lot of lists, just you watch.

I am excited for the Bullseye, but the upgrades in the pack are underwhelming. I was going to get 2, but 1 is all I can really see flying.

Sadly its too ugly to buy. I will have to wait for the Tie Lancet with bullseye

I don't fly Scum so won't be getting it but I do think everyone is underestimating it. I get the feeling there is going to be some awful powerful build out there for it that will come to light very quickly.

13 hours ago, Kilrex said:

I am excited for the Bullseye, but the upgrades in the pack are underwhelming. I was going to get 2, but 1 is all I can really see flying.

Ditto. It really feels like a one-off ship, there's nothing in the pack except Contraband Cybernetics, that isn't unique, questionably useful (Scramblers, which come in two copies anyway), crap, or available elsewhere, and the title is going to be really important in it not dying. Plus it really feels like a ship priced to use the aces, and I don't think you want more than one, but either can be useful - Dalan's a missile boat, Torani's a trolololololl

15 hours ago, Icelom said:

Of course time will tell, and I am a strange guy (I like pre buff m3a's).

That's not strange, that's good taste.

21 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

The competitive meta in general defaults to idiot proof ships

This is why another bwing isn't exciting. Turrets will devour it and you really can't do much about that

Actually you can, by playing around priorities and/or alphastrike some of this turrets.

I will get a run to Dalan. It's 33-34 points with PS9 and an Harpoon missile.

Maybe someone can tell me otherwise, but Kimogola is probably the 2nd best cost-for-stat ship in this wave (resistance bomber being #1). You dont pay ridiculous pts for PS, can get to PS10, and it still has a barrel roll + reload + actually useful standard abilities in the bullseye arc.

I think it'll fit in nicely.

Should you take it to a tournament? No. Will it tear things up in Epic? Definitely! It will be easy to get ships and epic ships in arc when you play epic games.