Is it legal to use figure tokens in tournaments? I tried to search "figure" in the rules book and it produced no results. Also results for "token" produced no relevant findings on the topic. The only section I found is the following:
QuoteAll Star Wars: Imperial Assault components are legal for Skirmish play unless they are marked with the campaign icon
Any pointer?
Thanks.
See the tournament rules. They require you to use figures (and does not allow tokens).
For friendly play you can play with tokens, and can probably borrow figures for events.
7 minutes ago, a1bert said:See the tournament rules. They require you to use figures (and does not allow tokens).
For friendly play you can play with tokens, and can probably borrow figures for events.
I was looking into tournament rules, but I did not manage to find it. Do you have the reference handy?
They're on the IA page under "Tournament Resources".
On 12/5/2017 at 4:41 PM, a1bert said:They're on the IA page under "Tournament Resources".
Sorry @a1bert I actually meant to say that I can't find the rule you're talking about
Nice one! Actually, Tournamenet rules don't say anything about FIGURES, but OFFICIAL COMPONENTS, which tokens are
Player Materials (page 5)
Players are responsible for bringing all of the game components they need to play a game of Star Wars: Imperial Assault. This includes all models, Deployment cards, Skirmish Upgrade cards, and tokens. In addition, they must bring sufficient dice for attack and defense rolls, a Command deck, and all legal map tiles (or official Imperial Assault Skirmish Maps) and Mission cards. When an army list is required, players should bring a completed list or arrive at the venue early to fill one out.
Legal Products (page 8)
Players may use only official Star Wars: Imperial Assault components in tournament play, with the following exception for third-party replacements: • Tokens that do not impede the progress of play Determining the legality of any questionable third-party tokens is the marshal’s responsibility. Proxies of cards are not allowed unless used under the rules of “Lost and Damaged Components” on page 7. Components can be modified only as described under “Component Modifications” on pages 7. If a player uses the Star Wars™ Dice App, the device with the app must be displayed in full view of both players at all times, and his or her opponent may request to share the app. All Star Wars: Imperial Assault components are legal for Skirmish play unless they are marked with the campaign icon ( ).
Edited by Szycha
2 hours ago, Szycha said:Players are responsible for bringing all of the game components they need to play a game of Star Wars: Imperial Assault. This includes all models, Deployment cards, Skirmish Upgrade cards, and tokens
models = figures.
· Players may paint their models. They cannot modify a model in any way that would create
confusion about which unit the model represents.
The Tokens section tells more information what is meant by tokens.
Actual skirmish players can testify whether this is accurate or not.
All tournaments i played were models only (not counting relaxed ones with proxies etc.), on the other hand I haven't seen anyone who tried to use tokens and wasn't allowed to
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I am talking strictly about the rules wording, which in my opinion doesn't forbid it. First of all not all figures are models. For example companions are figures but they don't have any models. Secondly, "all models" doesn't imply, that you need to have model for each deployment card (or all models that were released by ffg). It means, that you need to have all the models you need to play your list (and you don't need models for "tokened" deployment, because it is suplied with official token, which is legal component) along with the other components. Lastly charater tokens can be used in normal games and are not explicitly excluded by skirmish rules or Tournament Rules (while continously referring to "Imperial Assault components" which character tokens are). Nevertheless, it doesn't really matter, because it's still Marshalls decision
Taking into consideration, that the tournament rules were made by ffg who want to sell ally and villain packs I have no doubt, that they were ment to enforce using models, but atm they are not
To be clear I don't want to buy another terro to make a dewback+terro list. The rules don't forbid figure token actually they stated:
All Star Wars: Imperial Assault components are legal for Skirmish play unless they are marked with the campaign icon
I want to understand what's the reason why anyone can legally prevent me to use tokens in a regional.
On 6/12/2017 at 11:02 PM, a1bert said:The Tokens section tells more information what is meant by tokens.
Section doesn't say much. Actually it seems to enforce that you can use figure tokens to mark the status of the game. I tend to include figure position as part of the state of the game.
On 6/12/2017 at 11:02 PM, a1bert said:models = figures.
I would argue that models are figures, but this isn't the same as saying all figures are models. Some figures can be tokens as long as FFG keeps producing and selling figure tokens.
On 6/12/2017 at 11:39 PM, Szycha said:All tournaments i played were models only (not counting relaxed ones with proxies etc.), on the other hand I haven't seen anyone who tried to use tokens and wasn't allowed to
I don't mind to be first one in a regional.
On 6/12/2017 at 11:39 PM, Szycha said:I am talking strictly about the rules wording, which in my opinion doesn't forbid it. First of all not all figures are models. For example companions are figures but they don't have any models. Secondly, "all models" doesn't imply, that you need to have model for each deployment card (or all models that were released by ffg). It means, that you need to have all the models you need to play your list (and you don't need models for "tokened" deployment, because it is suplied with official token, which is legal component) along with the other components. Lastly charater tokens can be used in normal games and are not explicitly excluded by skirmish rules or Tournament Rules (while continously referring to "Imperial Assault components" which character tokens are). Nevertheless, it doesn't really matter, because it's still Marshalls decision
Exactly what I mean! There used to be a rule about figure tokens and I saw that it is reported in forums but it doesn't exist anymore in the rulebook (possibly because that would have been problematic as companions don't have models). Anyway it used to refer only to the core set, link here:
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