Damnit - I knew that the game was coming, but I had no idea that it was actually out! And of course all the usual suspects, Mini Market and CSI, are sold out. Guess I'll have to hit the FLGS tonight. . . .

39 minutes ago, Desslok said:

Damnit - I knew that the game was coming, but I had no idea that it was actually out! And of course all the usual suspects, Mini Market and CSI, are sold out. Guess I'll have to hit the FLGS tonight. . . .

Yeah I had to preorder from Mini Market last week.

5 hours ago, Tom Cruise said:

Honestly with the kind of stuff they've permitted on this forum I wouldn't be surprised if they don't do anything about it, but it still feels a bit iffy.

5 hours ago, SEApocalypse said:

Quotes and small excerpts are perfectly fine. No one is asking for a complete scan and we have plenty of examples in the star wars forums with FFG being fine with whole talent tree being posted. See basically every "If got XY" over in the star wars RPG forums, it's basically a tradition.

Yes yes yes, gents, I've been here for half a decade and I've seen them let stuff slide, lots of stuff. Heck, for a period I got the star wars books first and I helped contribute to that! I am thinking we do not want to keep pushing the limits of their generosity by asking for full rules posting , etc. I agree, a little bit here and there is likely not to evoke ire.

In all honest, finding a full rules quote takes less time than it takes to write this post. So asking for a quote about a maneuver or two seems to be rather fine. Especially in context that it safes from actually doing a google search.

3 hours ago, Therian said:

Yeah I had to preorder from Mini Market last week.

Well, so much for my swearing off buying things after Black Friday. . . .

Pretty pleased I went to my FLGS to get a copy, as the copy I ordered from MM has been delayed indefinitely with Fedex somehow.

So this Barrel Roll talent people are talking about, how much XP does it cost, what kind of prerequisities does it have, and how strong is the effect? I'm wondering if it's worth porting over into some of the piloting focused specs in Star Wars.

On 12/5/2017 at 4:22 AM, SEApocalypse said:

4 minutes ago, Kaigen said:

F-ed up post........kindles and this forum software hate each other.....

Mostly I'm wondering whether it would be a talent towards the top of the tree or the bottom of the tree in terms of its costs and effects. I could see swapping out, say, Brilliant Evasion for it if it's strong enough to justify the cost, but that might be overdoing it.

I'm AFB but I believe it is T3.

22 minutes ago, Kaigen said:

So this Barrel Roll talent people are talking about, how much XP does it cost, what kind of prerequisities does it have, and how strong is the effect? I'm wondering if it's worth porting over into some of the piloting focused specs in Star Wars.

If it is identical to snap roll for the most part then it is super strong. It should be something like a centerpiece of the defensive abilities of a star wars spec. Similar how squad commander gets two ranks for defensive driving or starfighter ace gets two extra upgrades with his intuitive evasion talents ... or hotshots get basically a triumph once per turn on core skill checks, which be used pretty effectively defensively.

And it would be actually pretty broken in combination with hotshot and g-suit+flight suits. But I most certainly hope that they left out strain reduction from flight suits.

The new GtA and Dangerous Driving should work straight out of the box in Star Wars, but with the barrel roll the details really matter.

Brrel Roll
Tier 3
Out of turn incidental.
When hit after damage calculated before armor is applied. you may choose to suffer 3 system strain to reduce damage by ranks in piloting. Not ranked.

On 12/5/2017 at 5:25 PM, SEApocalypse said:

Which means star destroyer would annihilate fighters with ease. Something we never have seen onscreen.

How so? A Star Destroyer has a Silhouette of 8 so it would increase the difficulty of its attacks against a Silhouette 3 Snubfighter by 2. (Or even more?)
Or am I interpreting the rules wrong here?

If something is 2 or more silhouette in size differences, difficulty increases / decreases. So when there are multiples of 2 in size difference the increase / decrease applies multiple times, no?

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10 hours ago, Fl1nt said:

How so? A Star Destroyer has a Silhouette of 8 so it would increase the difficulty of its attacks against a Silhouette 3 Snubfighter by 2. (Or even more?)
Or am I interpreting the rules wrong here?

If something is 2 or more silhouette in size differences, difficulty increases / decreases. So when there are multiples of 2 in size difference the increase / decrease applies multiple times, no?

No, it’s only applies once. If the target is two or more Silhouette smaller, increase Difficulty once (add one purple die). It doesnt matter if it’s a sil8 shooting a time a sil6 or a sil1, it’s still just one extra purple.

On the flip side, of you’re target is two or more Silhouette larger, reduce the difficulty by 1 (remove a purple die).

Thanks for clearing that up.

I might have to overthink what aspects of genesys vehicle rules if any I want to bring over 😕