Really rough sketch of an idea here, but what do you guys think? I'm wondering if IF can breathe new life into the potatoes, or if they're going to continue to be completely outclassed as gunships by CR90A's. I ran the Wave 1 version of this back in the day and it was fun.

I'm thinking 3-red salvos might be right around the sweet spot for IF: you can afford multiple three-red shots on a fleet, and you're getting a pretty good amount of IF benefit in each one (~+.75 damage per shot).

I took Garm because I like him and want him to be good even though he's not. Also I think Garm/Ahsoka could give me a pretty good engine for keeping IF stocked with tokens, freeing up the Pelta to nav.

The Z-95's are for funsies. because I never use them.

Garm Is Terrible (400/400)
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Modified Pelta-class Assault Ship (56 + 41)
+ Garm Bel Iblis (25)
+ Ahsoka Tano (2)
+ Intensify Firepower! (6)
+ Engine Techs (8)
Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72 + 15)
+ Advanced Projectors (6)
+ Spinal Armament (9)
Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72 + 15)
+ Advanced Projectors (6)
+ Spinal Armament (9)
Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72 + 15)
+ Advanced Projectors (6)
+ Spinal Armament (9)
Lieutenant Blount (14)
4 x Z-95 Headhunter Squadron (7)

You going to post the list?

Haha beat you by a second.

I like IF with frigates. I have no clue what objective you would play with that fleet though. Its going to be going second alot, and I dont see many it can really excel at.

1 minute ago, BrobaFett said:

You going to post the list?

Thought about it, then decided to keep you guessing in hopes that a mere description of what I was after would get somebody else to come up with the actual list for me and save me the trouble.

3 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

Thought about it, then decided to keep you guessing in hopes that a mere description of what I was after would get somebody else to come up with the actual list for me and save me the trouble.

Ugh does that ever work?

Ill have to try it sometime.

3 minutes ago, BrobaFett said:

Haha beat you by a second.

I like IF with frigates. I have no clue what objective you would play with that fleet though. Its going to be going second alot, and I dont see many it can really excel at.

Yeah, I was thinking it could probably pull off Blockade Run. Hyperspace Assault would be fine, though not particularly awesome. No idea on the blue, maybe DT or NH.

Strategic has totally killed the old AF2 standby Firing Lanes.

Indeed, strategic has severly limited objective play for non-strategic fleets.

I never thought i would say it, but ive reached the point that I miss playing intel sweep.

Can I interest you in my tale of sails posting? I did Pelta IF! + Ackbar AFs.

Long story short, IF! was worth it.

Have you considered going 2 AF-As, 1 Cr90 and 1 transport? Adding Toryn far and some blue dice Awings for your screen?

6 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

Can I interest you in my tale of sails posting? I did Pelta IF! + Ackbar AFs.

Long story short, IF! was worth it.

Have you considered going 2 AF-As, 1 Cr90 and 1 transport? Adding Toryn far and some blue dice Awings for your screen?

Nice,I missed that that was a new post. Ill check it out!

Commander: Admiral Ackbar

Assault Objective: Opening Salvo
Defense Objective: Fire Lanes
Navigation Objective: Solar Corona

[ flagship ] Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Admiral Ackbar ( 38 points)
- Ahsoka Tano ( 2 points)
- Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points)
= 117 total ship cost

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points)
= 77 total ship cost

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points)
= 77 total ship cost

Modified Pelta-class Command Ship (60 points)
- Raymus Antilles ( 7 points)
- Shields to Maximum! ( 6 points)
= 73 total ship cost

1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
1 Shara Bey ( 17 points)
2 A-Wing Squadrons ( 22 points)

This is just shear firepower. Might be better to drop DTT and an A-wing for GT on all 3.

Garm might be better for all 11 of those tokens though.

On your list I'd drop SA for GT. Then you can kite your opponent instead of going at them.

Squadronless, but leverage Toryn?

Garm Christmas (399/400)
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Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72 + 28)
+ Skilled First Officer (1)
+ Gunnery Team (7)
+ Quad Laser Turrets (5)
+ Cluster Bombs (5)
+ Enhanced Armament (10)
Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72 + 28)
+ Skilled First Officer (1)
+ Gunnery Team (7)
+ Quad Laser Turrets (5)
+ Cluster Bombs (5)
+ Enhanced Armament (10)
Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72 + 28)
+ Skilled First Officer (1)
+ Gunnery Team (7)
+ Quad Laser Turrets (5)
+ Cluster Bombs (5)
+ Enhanced Armament (10)
Modified Pelta-class Assault Ship (56 + 43)
+ Garm Bel Iblis (25)
+ Toryn Farr (7)
+ Intensify Firepower! (6)
+ Phoenix Home (3)
+ Ahsoka Tano (2)

Plenty of IF usage here to warrant it's inclusion.

15 minutes ago, Deadshane said:

Squadronless, but leverage Toryn?

Assault Frigate Mk.II B (72 + 29)
+ Ahsoka Tano (2)
+ Gunnery Team (7)
+ Quad Laser Turrets (5)
+ Cluster Bombs (5)
+ Enhanced Armament (10)

And fighters would go for Pelta. I would drop CB & QLT and upgrade to AF/A for two blue flak. That allows you to add SFO for each frigate.

They could go for the Pelta, but since it doesn't really need to engage, it will be more/less out of the battle. Would squadrons ignore the frigates on the way to the Pelta?

Pelta itself has blue/black Flak. If the fighters are between Pelta and Frigates they already have a tough time of it.

Then again, I think the big point here is 4 fun not uber competetive....we might be picking nits.

I think personally I’d drop EA to make them As instead. Dare them to go for your killing power.

if any points are spare, throw racks on the Pelta to really punish a squadron.

On the rare occasion I run a Pelta, I like Flechette torpedoes on it, it's amazing how that helps vs squads piling into your lynch pin ship.

A couple of x-wings running protection duty can really keep that Pelta alive.

How about this?

Help the Spuds

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 391/400

Commander: Admiral Ackbar

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
= 92 total ship cost

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
= 92 total ship cost

[ flagship ] Modified Pelta-class Assault Ship (56 points)
- Admiral Ackbar ( 38 points)
- Phoenix Home ( 3 points)
- Major Derlin ( 7 points)
- Ahsoka Tano ( 2 points)
- Flechette Torpedoes ( 3 points)
- Intensify Firepower! ( 6 points)
= 115 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Bright Hope ( 2 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 22 total ship cost

1 Shara Bey ( 17 points)
1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
2 X-Wing Squadrons ( 26 points)
1 A-Wing Squadron ( 11 points)

I would dearly love a 3 potato list to work well. I own 3 and I've been looking at them and lamenting that I probably won't get to put them on the table together again.

I have 3 potato's as well, and I am not sure, but I am pretty positive I have never actually played one on the table.

I've tested with them in vassal, but never ever found a list I liked them in well enough that it made it to the table.

I've flown 3 potatoes and you really want Rogue squadrons with them. If you can keep at long/medium range, you can do well, but the DO NOT like BT/Avenger lists. They can be very strong though.

Meanwhile, I adapted my new potato list a bit.

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 394/400

Commander: Admiral Ackbar

Assault Objective: Most Wanted
Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation Objective: Dangerous Territory

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points)
= 91 total ship cost

Assault Frigate Mark II B (72 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points)
= 91 total ship cost

[ flagship ] Modified Pelta-class Assault Ship (56 points)
- Admiral Ackbar ( 38 points)
- Phoenix Home ( 3 points)
- Ahsoka Tano ( 2 points)
- Raymus Antilles ( 7 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Flechette Torpedoes ( 3 points)
- Shields to Maximum! ( 6 points)
= 123 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Leia Organa ( 3 points)
= 21 total ship cost

1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
3 X-Wing Squadrons ( 39 points)
1 Gold Squadron ( 12 points)