If you are at regionals this weekend, please drop some sweet, sweet data on me. I will love it and hug it and call it george.

Or perhaps I will put it in the 2017/2018 regionals data spreadsheet. That seems wiser:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NR5jNoKNtDX9qHrMHIpDdFl8OzGSOEi_ELJ5ylvu4u4/edit#gid=1449590538

So calling out Vancouver, WA & Fargo, ND

Streetsboro, OH from last week would be nice as well.

I mean, I guess I could do that. What is this data all used for anyways?

16 minutes ago, shmitty said:

I mean, I guess I could do that. What is this data all used for anyways?

Writing haikus and love sonnets to your chosen girl or guy.

@Darth Sanguis - do you have the Streetsboro Ohio lists to feed to @Baltanok

From Fargo, didn't get all the details, perhaps others can jump in and add their inputs. Also for those of you who might be newer, sorry for the all the abbreviations, but it's 2 AM and I'm not writing a book...Some lists may not be complete. We had 14 players, 6-7 rebels.

1st: Josiah Burkhardsmeier (complete)

Total: 385

2x TRC90 with ET

TRC90 with Madine

3x GR-75 Transports

MC30 Scout: OE, APT, IO, TRC, Admo

Shara, Tycho

2nd: Brendon aka @Mogrok

Total: 379

ISD (II?): Avenger, BT.......

Demo (GSD I?): ET, APT, OE, Demo, SFO(?),

3x Gozanti (cruisers?)

Squads: Saw a few TIEs

4th: Dong Lee (complete)

Total: 393 points

ISD II: Motti, The Inquisitor, BT, LS, ECM, Avenger

Quasar I: BT, Squall

2x Gozanti Cruisers, Comms Net

Gozanti Cruisers

Squads: YV-666, 2x Lambda, Dengar, Valen, Mauler

nth: Thomas aka @tgall (mostly complete, missing and upgrade or two)

Total: mid 390's

ISD II: Sloan, RBD, XI7, GT

Quasar I: Flight Controllers, EHB, Boosted Comms

Gozanti Cruisers: Comms net, Suppressor

Squads: 4x TIE Interceptor, Dengar, howl, soontir, ciena, mauler.

nth: Ian Cross (complete)

Total: 395/400

ISD II: Sloan, ECM, LS, DTT, BT, Avenger

Quasar I: Squall, Chiraneau, Flight Controllers

Gozanti Cruisers: Comms net,Hondo

Squads: 3x Defender, 2x Lambda, Marek, Mauler, Valen

Other fleets seen but not known in detail:

Cracken: 2 Nebs, 2 CR90, 2 GR-75, 1 HH, A-wings and Z-95s

Madine: MC80 Liberty, Admo, 2 GR-75, mixed squads @deDios

Ackbar: Super pickle, 3 GR-75 and one other ship. Assorted squads (A-wings?)

Unknown Admiral: MC80 Liberty, MC80 Home One, rest unknown

Unknown Admiral: 4 HH, least one GR-75, other ship(s?), assorted squads @MythicalMothman

JerJerrod: 3 Arq, 2 Raider, token TIEs (cluster bombs!!!!)

Darth Vader: ISD (Avenger?), Gozanti(s?), Squads?

That leaves two fleets unknown, I believe they were imperials, potentially with Avenger ISD. @MythicalMothman 's third round opponent is one of these. Last fleet I'm missing was also from the South Dakota crew.

Mine was

Name: JJ IDggg sqns
Faction: Imperial
Commander: Moff Jerjerrod

Assault: Advanced Gunnery
Defense: Hyperspace Assault
Navigation: Solar Corona

Imperial I (110)
• Moff Jerjerrod (23)
• Minister Tua (2)
• Boarding Troopers (3)
• ()
• Leading Shots (4)
• Spinal Armament (9)
• Avenger (5)
• Reinforced Blast Doors (5)
= 161 Points

Gladiator I (56)
• Skilled First Officer (1)
• Ordnance Experts (4)
• Engine Techs (8)
• Assault Proton Torpedoes (5)
• Demolisher (10)
= 84 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
• Comms Net (2)
= 25 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
• Hondo Ohnaka (2)
= 25 Points

Gozanti Cruisers (23)
= 23 Points

Squadrons:
• Howlrunner (16)
• Ciena Ree (17)
• Valen Rudor (13)
• Mauler Mithel (15)
= 61 Points

Total Points: 379

I went first every round as no one I played was doing token shenanigans....I played against 3 different predominantly hammerhead fleets with Dodonna, Cracken, and Riekan. So my BT avenger was a little overkill. lol. But surprisingly my sqns took on bigger blobs and did excellent. Except when I forgot in my first game about Jan Orrs and intel...

http://armada-dev.ryankingston.com/fleet/5824/

I will try to get Vancouver typed up today. 24 players and a crazy competitive field. 6 previous Regional winners, and multiple high finishers at Worlds/GenCon.

@Brikhause was our winner with 28 points.

TO’ing was a breeze and I got to watch some incredibly competitive games throughout the day. Although I did find myself wishing I could get in on some of those games.

I (Chuck Martinell) placed 3rd in Fargo with

flagship ] MC80 Assault Cruiser (114 points)
- Admiral Ackbar ( 38 points)
- Defiance ( 5 points)
- Lando Calrissian ( 4 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Electronic Countermeasures ( 7 points)
- Reinforced Blast Doors ( 5 points)
- Quad Battery Turrets ( 5 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)
= 190 total ship cost

CR90 Corvette A (44 points)
- Jainas Light ( 2 points)
- Leia Organa ( 3 points)
- Dual Turbolaser Turrets ( 5 points)
= 54 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
= 18 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 20 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Ahsoka Tano ( 2 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 22 total ship cost

1 Tycho Celchu ( 16 points)
1 Shara Bey ( 17 points)
2 A-Wing Squadrons ( 22 points)
1 Lietenant Blount ( 14 points)
3 Z-95 Headhunter Squadrons ( 21 points)

7 minutes ago, shmitty said:

I will try to get Vancouver typed up today. 24 players and a crazy competitive field. 6 previous Regional winners, and multiple high finishers at Worlds/GenCon.

@Brikhause was our winner with 28 points.

TO’ing was a breeze and I got to watch some incredibly competitive games throughout the day. Although I did find myself wishing I could get in on some of those games.

It was an outstanding event Schmitty very professionally ran! I could have not asked more. North west has an awesome group of guys and it was fun conversing with them! I am looking forward to my move up there and help continue to grow that community! Just wanted to Add Spokane represented well with some high placers! So anyone in the NW is welcome to come down to Spokane and get some real competition!?. We welcome you and love to have you!

also @Tirion we need to stream our grudgematch at my place when I make the move!!

11th Place Aaron in Fargo.

My list did well (considering my skill level). It went 6-5 and 5-6 against two very different achetypes, but fell prey to some fantastic Dangerous Territory use by 3rd place @Palanthas . I could have likely disengaged to get a 5-6 or 6-5, but chose to gamble our fates on an MC80H to MC80L brawl. His parking on the station and my parking on some debris taught me a deeper respect for obstacles.

Hammer and Sparks
Faction: Rebel Alliance Points: 390/400
Most Wanted, Hyperspace Assault, Solar Corona

[ flagship ] MC80 Star Cruiser (96 points)
- General Madine ( 30 points)
- Mon Karren ( 8 points)
- Intel Officer ( 7 points)
- Gunnery Team ( 7 points)
- Engine Techs ( 8 points)
- Spinal Armament ( 9 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Leading Shots ( 4 points)

MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 points)
- Admonition ( 8 points)
- Ordnance Experts ( 4 points)
- X17 Turbolasers ( 6 points)
- Assault Proton Torpedoes ( 5 points)

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)- Leia Organa ( 3 points)

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)- Comms Net ( 2 points)

1 Jan Ors ( 19 points) 2 X-Wing Squadrons ( 26 points) 1 YT-1300 ( 13 points)
1 Biggs Darklighter ( 19 points) 1 A-Wing Squadron ( 11 points)

One of JJs missing fleets from Fargo was my fellow Minot guy, Sam.

Sam had approximately:

Intel Sweep, Advanced Gunnery, ...?

ISD2 with XI7, ECM, GunneryTeams, LeadingShots, IntelOfficer
Glad2 with ET, OE, APT,
2 Goz's with a CommsNet and a Jamming
Squads: Dengar, Mauler, Soontiir, Zertik, a couple other TIEs.

I'm a little surprised to see no one was using Marek / Jendon. A good chunk of Imperial fleets I've seen in this area appear to have that as an auto include, particularly with Sloan. Does anyone have insight or light recaps on how Josiah's matches went?

8 hours ago, JJs Juggernaut said:

Ian Cross

Good man.

5th place Fargo was Andrew Wixon and his list was

Faction: Rebel Alliance
Points: 392/400

Commander: General Dodonna

Assault Objective: Precision Strike
Defense Objective: Planetary Ion Cannon
Navigation Objective: Superior Positions

[ flagship ] Modified Pelta-class Command Ship (60 points)
- General Dodonna ( 20 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- All Fighters, Follow Me! ( 5 points)
= 89 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Boosted Comms ( 4 points)
- Bomber Command Center ( 8 points)
= 30 total ship cost

GR-75 Medium Transports (18 points)
- Comms Net ( 2 points)
= 20 total ship cost

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36 points)
- Task Force Organa ( 1 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 40 total ship cost

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36 points)
- Task Force Organa ( 1 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 40 total ship cost

Hammerhead Torpedo Corvette (36 points)
- Task Force Organa ( 1 points)
- External Racks ( 3 points)
= 40 total ship cost

1 Jan Ors ( 19 points)
1 Luke Skywalker ( 20 points)
1 Wedge Antilles ( 19 points)
1 X-Wing Squadron ( 13 points)
1 YT-1300 ( 13 points)
1 Norra Wexley ( 17 points)
1 Gold Squadron ( 12 points)
2 Y-Wing Squadrons ( 20 points)

Vancouver, WA 2017 Fleet lists

1 - Justin Curtis – 28 points @Brikhause

Rieekan

400 points

Most Wanted, Planetary Ion Cannon, Minefields

AF Mk II b – GH, ECM, Adar

Neb Escort – Yavaris, Flight Command, FCT

GR-75 – Bright Hope, Toryn

GR-75 – Comms Net

GR-75 – Leia, BCC

Luke

X-Wing

Green

H-6

Jan

Ten Numb

2x VCX

2 – Skyler Galle – 26 points @Tirion

Dodonna

400

Most Wanted, Hyper Assault, Superior Positions

MC30 T – Admo, OE, APT, Lando, H9

Neb Escort – Yavaris, FC, FCT

HH Torp – Extrenal Racks, Garel’s Honor

GR-75 – BCC, Hondo

GR-75 – Toryn, Jamming, Bright Hope

Ten Numb

Jan

Gold

Dagger

2x YT1300

Y-Wing

B-Wing

3 – Cory Benson @Ardaedhel

Motha

395

MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 59)
+ Mon Mothma (30)
+ Lando Calrissian (4)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Assault Proton Torpedoes (5)
+ H9 Turbolasers (8)
+ Admonition (8)
MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 10)
+ Skilled First Officer (1)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Assault Proton Torpedoes (5)
MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 10)
+ Skilled First Officer (1)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Assault Proton Torpedoes (5)
MC30c Torpedo Frigate (63 + 10)
+ Skilled First Officer (1)
+ Ordnance Experts (4)
+ Assault Proton Torpedoes (5)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18)
GR-75 Medium Transports (18)
Most Wanted
Hyperspace assault
Solar Corona

4 – Ben Oelgart

Motti

392

Most Wanted, Contested Outpost, Solar Corona

ISD II – GT, RBD, LS, Relentless

GSD I – SFO, OE, APTs, Demo

Gozanti – Hondo, Comms

Jendon

Bossk

Morna

Dengar

Maarek

Zertik

5 – James Chen @Maturin

Sato!

400

Most Wanted, Fire Lanes, Sensor Net

MC30 T – Lando, OE, RBD, ACM, Admo

Neb Support – Salvation, SFO, FCT

AF B – Toryn, OE, ECM

GR75 Combat – Leia, Bright Hope

Gold

Tycho

2x HWK

2x VCX

2x Z-95

6 – Michelle Theia @Admiral Theia

Sloane

400

Adv Gunnery, Fleet Ambush, Superior Positions

ISD II – Relentless, Flight Controllers, Boosted Comms, Adv Proj, XI7s, LS

Quasar I – Pursuant, Wulff, Flight Controllers, Boosted Comms, EHB

Gozanti – Comms Net

Dengar

Howlrunner

Black

5x TIE Ints

Saber

TIE Adv

7 – Jim Cartwright @Armada Jim

Mothma

397

Blockade Run, Jamming Barrier, Intel Sweep

CR90a – TRC, Jaina

MC30T – OE, APT, Foresight

MC30T – OE, APT, Admo

GR75 – Jamming

GR75 – Jamming

Biggs

2x X-Wing

A-Wing

Hera!!

2x E-Wing

8 – Chris Constans

Motti

394

Station Assault, Hyperspace Assault, Solar Corona

VSD II – GT, DCaps, QBT

VSD II – GT, DCaps, QBT

GSD I – OE, APT, Demo

Raider I – External Racks

6x TIE Fighter

9 – Alex Yuen

Vader

Opening Salvo, Fire Lanes, Dangerous Territory

ISD II – ECM, GT, SW7, XI7, Avenger

GSD I – Exp Launchers, Sensor Team, Demo

Raider II – Dcaps, Overload Pulse

Gozanti – Comms Net

Gozanti – Slicer Tools

2x TIE Fighter

10 – Brandon Sanchez

Mothma

391

Most Wanted, Hyperspace Assault, nav Hazards

CR90a – TRC, Jaina

MC30T – Lando, OE, APT, H9, Admo

MC30T – SFO, OE, APT, H9, Foresight

GR75 – Toryn, Jamming, Bright Hope

GR-75

Dash

YT2400

Rogue

2x X-Wing

11 – Gene Merrill

Sloane

Most Wanted, Fire Lanes, Superior Positions

ISD I – Chiraneau, Flight Controllers, EHB, Boosted Comms, Avenger

Gozanti – Jamming

Gozanti – Comms Net

Gozanti – Comms Net

Gozanti – Suppressor

Maarek

Jendon

Ciena

Howlrunner

Mauler

Saber

4x TIE Fighter

12 – Travis Seimer

Motti

395

Most Wanted, Contested Outpost, Solar Corona

ISD I – DCO, Boarding troopers, LS, XI7, Avenger

VSD I – Tua, Boarding Troopers, Ext Racks, H9, Warlord, ECM

Gozanti – Comms Net

IG88

Dengar

Ciena

Lambda

Mauler

TIE Adv

Black

13 – Chris Shaffer @Naboobo2000

Vader

400

ISD I – GT, XI7, Avenger

GSD I – OE, ACM, Demo

Arquitens LC – Slaved

Arquitens LC – Slaved

Rudor

Ciena

Black

14 – Ryan Anderson

Motti

Most Wanted, Superior Positions, Fleet Ambush

ISD II – GT, ECM, LS, XI7, Relentless

GSD I – OE, APT, Demo

Raider I – OE, Ext Racks

Gozanti

Bossk

Jendon

Defender

Zertik

15 – Will Sarchet

Motti

400

Adv Gunnery, Contested Outpost, Dangerous Territory

VSD II – GT, LS, QBT

VSD II – GT, LS, QBT

Quasar I – Flight controllers, Boosted Comms, EHB

Gozanti – Montferat, Slicer

Dengar

4x TIE Int

16 – Derek Schultz

Jerry

383

Most Wanted, Contested Outpost, Solar Corona

Interdictor Combat – Wulff, Proj Experts, Targeting Scrambler, Interdictor

ISD I – Devastator, Tua, ECM, XI7, LS

Gozanti – Comms

Dengar

Soontir

Valen

Mauler

2x TIE Fighter

17 – Sim Young

Garm

400

Most Wanted, Contested Outpost, Solar Corona

MC80 Command – FCT, HTT, Defiance

MC30T – Derlin, APT, Admo

MC30T – APT

GR75 – Bright Hope

Norra

Dutch

2x B-Wing

YT1300

Y-Wing

18 Caleb Rychert

Ackbar

MC 80 Command – Redundant Shields, LS, Projection Experts, EA, Defiance

MC30S – Foresight, APT, Redundant Shields, OE

MC30S – Admo, APT, Redundant Shields, OE

Unknown squadrons

19 – Michael Wright @Mikael Hasselstein

Vader

400

Opening Salvo, Fire Lanes, Solar Corona

Quasar I – Flight Controllers, EHB, Boosted Comms

Arquitens LC – Intel Officer, Slaved

Arquitens LC – Intel Officer, Slaved

Arquitens LC – Intel Officer, Slaved

Howlrunner

Dengar

TIE Int

Ciena

Soontir

Saber

20 – Bobby Hansen

Leia

393

Most Wanted, Contested Outpost, Solar Corona

MC80 Star – Defense Liason, Nav Team, ICB, XI7s, DTT

Pelta Command – SFO, Projection Experts, STM!, DCaps

HH Torpedo – Ext Racks

GR75 – Toryn Farr, Bright Hope

GR75 – Ahsoka, Comms Net

Shara

5x A-wing

21 – Gus Klemond

Sloane

399

Most Wanted, Fire Lanes, Superior Positions

ISD I – Tua, Boarding Troops, LS, Avenger, ECM

GSD I – OE, APT, Demo

Gozanti – EHB

Gozanti

Howlrunner

9x TIE Fighter

2x Lambda

22 - David Kennedy

Jerry

395

Adv Gunnery, Contested Outpost, Dangerous Territory

Quasar I – Flight Controllers, Dcaps, Pursuant

Raider I – Kallus, OE, Quad Laser Turrets, Flechettes, Instigator

GSD I – Intel, OE, ACM, Demo

Arquitens LC – Needa, RBD, TRC

4x Defender

Saber

Black

23 – Cole Clark

Motti

392

Adv Gunnery, Contested oUtpost, Solar Corona

Quasar I – Flight Controllers, Boosted Comms

GSD I – Tua, OE, APT, RBD

ISD I – Hondo, Boarding Troopers, LS, Avenger

Gozanti – Suppressor

Dengar

Mauler

2x TIE Adv

2x TIE Int

24 – Eric Rychert

Ackbar

397

Neb Escort – Redemption, Projection Experts

HH T

HH T – ACM, Ahsoka, Garels

CR90a

CR90a

AF B – Veteran Gunners, Proj Experts

2x Lancers

3 hours ago, Astrodar said:

I'm a little surprised to see no one was using Marek / Jendon. A good chunk of Imperial fleets I've seen in this area appear to have that as an auto include, particularly with Sloan. Does anyone have insight or light recaps on how Josiah's matches went?

Since this is a data thread, I'll try and just keep it brief here. I faced Ian Cross, Dong Lee, and Thomas Gall in that order. I was first player all three games, picked Advanced Gunnery against Ian an Dong, Station Assault against Thomas. I used the TRC90s to whittle down the ISDs, while Admo came in for the killing blow. Against Dong's Motti ISD, it took a final round of shooting by a TRC90 and double ram to finish it off.

In all my games the ISD's didn't get anything other than long range shots out the front due to Madine's ability to keep ships exactly where you need them. Shara and Tycho where able to buy a little time with the squads, but mainly when fighting the Sloan lists, she ended up dying early enough to severely reduce the bombing capabilities of the remaining squadrons. The quasars ended up following the ISD's a round or two later due to focused TRC90 fire. With the exception of one, the Gozanti's were all killed with ramming.

I ended up at 30 tournament points with a 1,167 MoV.

5 hours ago, deDios said:

One of JJs missing fleets from Fargo was my fellow Minot guy, Sam.

Sam had approximately:

Intel Sweep, Advanced Gunnery, ...?

ISD2 with XI7, ECM, GunneryTeams, LeadingShots, IntelOfficer
Glad2 with ET, OE, APT,
2 Goz's with a CommsNet and a Jamming
Squads: Dengar, Mauler, Soontiir, Zertik, a couple other TIEs.

I faced Sam in the second round, he had Most wanted for his red objective and contested outpost for his yellow. His squads were a jumpmaster, Mauler Soontir and Zertik, I think everything else looks accurate. Fun guy to play against.

First of all, I just want to point out that I encountered not one but two ACM-equipped Demolishers . #ACMLyfe

Also wanted to comment on a particular development that I've seen in the community. If somehow you've been living under a rock and haven't seen any of my related rants: I love the MC30, I brought 4 of them to this, and I have been playing them since they released and am thus intimately familiar with their strengths and weaknesses. I historically have seen most players make various suboptimal decisions when opposing them, because of the unique nature of some of their attributes (redundant defense tokens, extreme disparity between hull and shield values, and so forth).

In this tournament, all three of the players I squared off with made very good decisions vis a vis attacking MC30s, and I wanted to highlight that. Great play on Brandon, David, and Chris's parts!

For example, Brandon brought a similar fleet to mine.

It was super crappy luck that we got matched on round 1, and then he got another mirror match against another local on round 3 too. Out game was a giant pillow fight that he won by trading Mothma's JL for my Landmothmonition while aslo preventing me from pinning down Foresight for the follow-up. He did exactly what I tell people to do to take it down: decide immediately if you're going to kill it or ignore it; then, hit it early, even if you're not getting any immediate payoff, and hit it consistently to keep pressure on even it's just with low-quality shots. You'll wear down shields, wear down defense tokens. Yeah, it's got a lot of both, but think of those defense tokens as the ship's hull instead, because once they're gone, it will die fast. He got a couple of rogue shots on her turn one that got damage through the rerolls, then he kept the pressure up on turn 2 with squadron activations to push the Rogues early, and finished with a piddling long-range TRC90 shot that I had to either eat on the hull or burn an evade on. So by the time Admonition was engaged in the fight, it was low enough on defenses that I couldn't reliably count on weathering an opening shot from either of his MC30's, severely limiting my tactical options with her. It forced me to activate Admonition early, opening up space that allowed Foresight to slip away from the 5-6 arcs that I'd had trained on her. So, very well played to Brandon, and it's a real shame the matchups were not in his favor again.

Great event, I had a really good time, and many thanks to @shmitty for running it! Now if only there was another Regionals within 1000 miles that he could've played in too... ಠ_ಠ

I have not participated in any armada tournament in the last 48 hours. So is this error or random person who is using my name?

58 minutes ago, Hyperspace Ninja said:

I have not participated in any armada tournament in the last 48 hours.

Are you sure you didn't just forget...?

1 hour ago, Hyperspace Ninja said:

I have not participated in any armada tournament in the last 48 hours. So is this error or random person who is using my name?

My mistake, was trying to remember usernames at 2 AM...

@JJs Juggernaut

I was the hooligan running Triple Arqs with SFO, Cluster Bombs, and DTT, with 2 Raiders, one OE and Flechette, the other ER OE Kallus QLT, with Zertik, Cienna, Valen, and Howlrunner

Ian Cross got 6th, Tom Gall got 9th, I got 10th, Ben Johnson with the MC80L and MC80 HO was bottom of the list I believe.

2 hours ago, Card Knight said:

the MC80L and MC80 HO was bottom of the list I believe

@Tirion , this is why you listen to me and not @shmitty .

For everyone's edification: "play what you've practiced with" is a good rule of thumb in deciding on what to play at Regionals, but many people forget the second clause of that rule: "... unless you've been practicing with something terrible like a 2-activation Garm Pickle/Liberty horror."

59 minutes ago, Ardaedhel said:

@Tirion , this is why you listen to me and not @shmitty .

For everyone's edification: "play what you've practiced with" is a good rule of thumb in deciding on what to play at Regionals, but many people forget the second clause of that rule: "... unless you've been practicing with something terrible like a 2-activation Garm Pickle/Liberty horror."

i've been led to believe that Garm is so overpowered that he doesn't even NEED MC30s, that's how good he is. I hear Garm once looked at an ISD and it exploded just on the power of his mustache alone.