Was working on a Tie Adv build and wondered... Does Deadeye work in combination with ATC? Replace the need for to have, and not use, a Target lock with the need to have, and not use, a focus?
Deadeye + Advanced Targeting Computer
No, Deadeye can be used to change Attack (Target Lock) to Attack (Focus), and it can be used to spend a focus instead of a target lock when a secondary weapon instructs you to spend a target lock. Since ATC does not have the Attack (Target Lock) header, nor does it instruct you to spend a target lock as part of an attack, it cannot be used with Deadeye.
Deadeye is quite specific in its use and it doesn't create a blanket replacement of target locks with focus tokens.
26 minutes ago, Parravon said:Deadeye is quite specific in its use and it doesn't create a blanket replacement of target locks with focus tokens.
I've run into a handful of people who argue that Deadeye lets you use a focus token for rerolls like a target lock. They will not budge no matter how I try to explain it.
5 minutes ago, Innese said:I've run into a handful of people who argue that Deadeye lets you use a focus token for rerolls like a target lock. They will not budge no matter how I try to explain it.
How do you deal with it?
I've run into 'those people' in all kinds of games. It's so frustrating when you can easily defend the correct rule, yet they argue that that just isn't how they see it. In a game with multiple players we can come to a table consensus (meaning the player who is trying to warp the rule is out voted) but what do you do in games where someone stubbornly refuses to use a card correctly in a 1 on 1?
7 minutes ago, xbeaker said:How do you deal with it?
I've run into 'those people' in all kinds of games. It's so frustrating when you can easily defend the correct rule, yet they argue that that just isn't how they see it. In a game with multiple players we can come to a table consensus (meaning the player who is trying to warp the rule is out voted) but what do you do in games where someone stubbornly refuses to use a card correctly in a 1 on 1?
I simply tell them this... the attack is NOT "instructing" you to spend a Target Lock. Spending a Target Lock is a dice modification/ability, not an attack.
40 minutes ago, xbeaker said:How do you deal with it?
I've run into 'those people' in all kinds of games. It's so frustrating when you can easily defend the correct rule, yet they argue that that just isn't how they see it. In a game with multiple players we can come to a table consensus (meaning the player who is trying to warp the rule is out voted) but what do you do in games where someone stubbornly refuses to use a card correctly in a 1 on 1?
Thankfully so far its only ever come up at a tournament, no matter the card, when a newer player who has learned mostly from Youtube & basement games comes up for the first time and runs into what is usually a mess of FAQs & Erratas that affect the wording of a card. In the case of Deadeye, they've cited seeing it used on Youtube in that manner, though were never able to reproduce the video; if I had to guess, they were just missing something in the timing.
Edited by Innese37 minutes ago, shaunmerritt said:I simply tell them this... the attack is NOT "instructing" you to spend a Target Lock. Spending a Target Lock is a dice modification/ability, not an attack.
By the FAQ, it actually does instruct you to do so in the same way it instructs you to spend a lock to fire a missile. Definitely a dumb interpretation, but they do have at least some ground to stand on.
Thanks for the answers.