RESULTS! Pop Quiz: New Wave Regionals Predictions

By wurms, in X-Wing

Predictions for regionals of 30 or more persons:

1) What ship will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Resistance Bomber
  • B) Gunboat (QD+ 3 NU)
  • C) Sheathipede
  • D) TIE Silencer
  • E) Kimoglia

2) What will happen first with the gunboat

  • A) A four generic gunboat squad will take a regional!!!
  • B) Gunboats won't win a single regional
  • C) Vynder will win a regional
  • D) Karasabi will win a regional
  • E) Other: 1-3 generic gunboats will be in a winning list. (QD+ 3 NU)

3) What version of Kylo TIE Silencer will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Push The Limit (Kylo + x2 Rho on 1/6/18)
  • B) Veteran Instincts
  • C) Other EPT
  • D) Kylo wont win a regional

4) Will "Blackout" or a generic TIE Silencer win a regional (with 30+ participants) before Kylo's TIE Silencer?

5) Will a non-docked Sheathipede win a regionals (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) yes Yes YES! (We all know the answer to this one)
  • B) Nope

6) Will a Ghost and a docked Phantom II win a regional (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) Yep
  • B) No way, Jose

7) Will a resistance bomber win a regionals (with 30+ particpants)?

  • A) YES!!!
  • B) Sadly, No (Came close, grabbing 2nd a few times)

8) The first Kimogila to win a regional (with 30+ participants) will be...?

  • A) Torani Gulda (PS8)
  • B) Dalen Oberos (PS7)
  • C) Cartel Enforcer (PS5)
  • D) Cartel Brute (PS3) (4 ship scum)
  • E) None of above
  • F) Multiple kimoglias will be in the winning list!!!
Edited by wurms

Oooh fun

1) Silencer

2) E. I think it’ll be best as a filler or with three as an alpha stroke.

3) PtL.

4) Uh...no.

5) Yeah, I think stressbug will be decent.

6) Nah. 15 points for a free action seems excessive. It might make the cut, but I don’t see it winning.

7) ...yeah? I think? It’s a decent cheapish bomber.

8) None of the above. Trash ship, trash dial.

1) B. Gunboat

2) E. Other (2 Cannon Boats + Ace)

3) A. Push the Limit (Question worded as potentially an regional ever vs this year's regionals to which I might say none)

4) B. No (but, not a solid no, there's a chance)

5) A. Yes (See #3)

6) B. No

7) B. No

8) E. None (Unless FAQ rules against the ability to count 0 as a number for removing tokens, then Torani Gulda)

Edited by RStan
47 minutes ago, wurms said:

Predictions for regionals of 30 or more persons:

1) What ship will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Resistance Bomber
  • B) Gunboat
  • C) Sheathipede
  • D) TIE Silencer ✔️
  • E) Kimoglia

2) What will happen first with the gunboat

  • A) A four generic gunboat squad will take a regional!!!
  • B) Gunboats won't win a single regional✔️
  • C) Vynder will win a regional
  • D) Karasabi will win a regional
  • E) Other: 1-3 generic gunboats will be in a winning list.

3) What version of Kylo TIE Silencer will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Push The Limit
  • B) Veteran Instincts✔️
  • C) Other EPT
  • D) Kylo wont win a regional

4) Will "Blackout" or a generic TIE Silencer win a regional (with 30+ participants) before Kylo's TIE Silencer?

  • A) You Betcha!
  • B) Uh...No✔️

5) Will a non-docked Sheathipede win a regionals (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) yes Yes YES!✔️
  • B) Nope

6) Will a Ghost and a docked Phantom II win a regional (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) Yep
  • B) No way, Jose✔️

7) Will a resistance bomber win a regionals (with 30+ particpants)?

  • A) YES!!!
  • B) Sadly, No✔️

8) The first Kimoglia to win a regional (with 30+ participants) will be...?

  • A) Torani Gulda (PS8)
  • B) Dalen Oberos (PS7)
  • C) Cartel Enforcer (PS5)
  • D) Cartel Brute (PS3)
  • E) None of above✔️
  • F) Multiple kimoglias will be in the winning list!!!

1) B Gunboat

2) E 1-3, probably with HLC

3) A

4) B

5) Actually A might be a thing because of the Stressbug

6) A

7) B

8) E

reall curious about the results

1) What ship will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?
B) Gunboat

2) What will happen first with the gunboat
A) A four generic gunboat squad will take a regional!

3) What version of Kylo TIE Silencer will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?
B) Veteran Instincts

4) Will "Blackout" or a generic TIE Silencer win a regional (with 30+ participants) before Kylo's TIE Silencer?
B) No

5) Will a non-docked Sheathipede win a regionals (with 30+ participants)?
A) Yes

6) Will a Ghost and a docked Phantom II win a regional (with 30+ participants)?
B) No

7) Will a resistance bomber win a regionals (with 30+ particpants)?
B) Sadly, No

8) The first Kimoglia to win a regional (with 30+ participants) will be...?
A) Torani Gulda (PS8). Unlikely, but possible

All my predictions are based on the assumption of "simple is better", that X-wing seems to naturally gravitate to lists that are just easier to fly via action-independent mods and especially turrets. Lists that require better flying, especially due to just having arcs to worry about, may have a higher skill ceiling but will put too much pressure on even the most skilled player over the course of X rounds. Sure, they can theoretically win, but not reliably so.

Predictions for regionals of 30 or more persons:

1) What ship will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Resistance Bomber (<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Miranda)
  • B) Gunboat (powerful but requires actual planning to fly; is not a turret)
  • C) Sheathipede (Maybe? Can't imagine what list it'd go with)
  • D) TIE Silencer (Maybe? Personally unimpressed, but of the available ships it is the only one with high enough PS to be easy to fly against the very easy to fly meta)
  • E) Kimoglia (it's just a B-wing; turrets will wreck it)

[D]

2) What will happen first with the gunboat

  • A) A four generic gunboat squad will take a regional!!! (requires too much thought to fly, no HLCs and therefore no real punch)
  • B) Gunboats won't win a single regional (Sadly possible, but if deadeye SCURRG could do any sort of well...)
  • C) Vynder will win a regional (Vynder is stupidly overpriced for his incredibly situational ability, he's almost Rhymer-tier)
  • D) Karasabi will win a regional (More possible than Vynder, though still doubtful. He doesn't bring any sustainability over similarly priced lategame ships, only makes sense as another high-damage HLC boat)
  • E) Other: 1-3 generic gunboats will be in a winning list. (Here's the strength of the boat, high damage burst that can also be sustained after expending LRS and crackshots)

[E]

3) What version of Kylo TIE Silencer will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Push The Limit (PTL sensors is about the only "special" thing the silencer does, because it has a uniquely powerful dial and access to primed thrusters)
  • B) Veteran Instincts (Not seeing it over similar ships that already exist and are much cheaper, ala Quickdraw and Vader. Still, it's PS 11?)
  • C) Other EPT (Not seeing anything outside PTL or VI being used on these things)
  • D) Kylo wont win a regional (Quite possibly)

[A]

4) Will "Blackout" or a generic TIE Silencer win a regional (with 30+ participants) before Kylo's TIE Silencer?

  • A) You Betcha!
  • B) Uh...No (Blackout is my favorite Silencer at first glance, but his ability simply requires too much good flying)

5) Will a non-docked Sheathipede win a regionals (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) yes Yes YES! it's possible
B) Nope

[A]

6) Will a Ghost and a docked Phantom II win a regional (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) Yep
B) No way, Jose **** NO

7) Will a resistance bomber win a regionals (with 30+ particpants)?

  • A) YES!!!
B) Sadly, No

8) The first Kimoglia to win a regional (with 30+ participants) will be...?

  • A) Torani Gulda (PS8)
B) Dalen Oberos (PS7) C) Cartel Enforcer (PS5) D) Cartel Brute (PS3) E) None of above F) Multiple kimoglias will be in the winning list!!!

[E]

TL;DR:

1.) Gunboats are your new deadeye SCURRG

2.) Silencer is the only thing with high PS enough to reliably fly against the meta

3.) Resistance bomber will NEVER be used over Miranda

4.) Kimolgia is just ****** by turrets

5.) Can't fathom where the Stressbug will go., but I believe its docked ability is a complete joke

Edited by ficklegreendice

1) B, Gunboat

2) E, I'm thinking two with HLC

3) A, Push The Limit

4) A. I feel people are already figuring out how to fight Kylo while a different build with the generics in particular might catch someone by surprise.

5) A, Yep. It's cheap and versatile.

6) B, nah, the Attack Shuttle's benefit is better. There are applications for the docked Phantom II, but I don't know if it is enough.

7) A, probably.

8) A, Torani.

DBABBABE

Gunboat is the only answer ! :)

3 hours ago, wurms said:

Predictions for regionals of 30 or more persons:

1) What ship will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • D) TIE Silencer

2) What will happen first with the gunboat

  • A) A four generic gunboat squad will take a regional!!!

3) What version of Kylo TIE Silencer will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Push The Limit

4) Will "Blackout" or a generic TIE Silencer win a regional (with 30+ participants) before Kylo's TIE Silencer?

  • B) Uh...No

5) Will a non-docked Sheathipede win a regionals (with 30+ participants)?

  • B) Nope

6) Will a Ghost and a docked Phantom II win a regional (with 30+ participants)?

  • B) No way, Jose

7) Will a resistance bomber win a regionals (with 30+ particpants)?

  • B) Sadly, No

8) The first Kimoglia to win a regional (with 30+ participants) will be...?

  • C) Cartel Enforcer (PS5)

I really like this thread! Please tally up and post the results afterwards, and then compare our answers to actual fact! That would be awesome!

What about Guns for Hire?

Vaksai or Star Viper MKII titled ships should be in the running too!

1) What ship will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?
B) Gunboat!

2) What will happen first with the gunboat
E) Other: 1-3 generic gunboats will be in a winning list.

3) What version of Kylo TIE Silencer will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?
A) Push the Limit & Advanced Sensors Kylo

4) Will "Blackout" or a generic TIE Silencer win a regional (with 30+ participants) before Kylo's TIE Silencer?
NO

5) Will a non-docked Sheathipede win a regionals (with 30+ participants)?
NO

6) Will a Ghost and a docked Phantom II win a regional (with 30+ participants)?
NO

7) Will a resistance bomber win a regionals (with 30+ particpants)?
NO (lots of no's because this wave isn't that good)

8) The first Kimoglia to win a regional (with 30+ participants) will be...?
Dalen Oberos (PS7) has a chance, but I'm not sure enough people will try him out.

Bonus: Thweek will win some regionals because he always moves last :)

-- 4/8/18 results -- I only got #5 and #8 wrong. My bonus guess was correct! Thweeko is neato

Edited by Dengar5
12 hours ago, wurms said:

Predictions for regionals of 30 or more persons:

1) What ship will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • B) Gunboat (Generic HLC carrier)
  • C) Sheathipede (Probably as part of some type of FSR 3.0)

If I had to choose, C

2) What will happen first with the gunboat

  • E) Other: 1-3 generic gunboats will be in a winning list. (28 point Gunboat is not a bad investment)

3) What version of Kylo TIE Silencer will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • D) Kylo wont win a regional (but VI, FCS Kylo has a shot)

4) Will "Blackout" or a generic TIE Silencer win a regional (with 30+ participants) before Kylo's TIE Silencer?

  • B) Uh...No (but he'll be fun to play in casual!)

5) Will a non-docked Sheathipede win a regionals (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) yes Yes YES! (AP-5, Streebug Ezra, or Fenn all could find a good home)

6) Will a Ghost and a docked Phantom II win a regional (with 30+ participants)?

  • B) No way, Jose (Pay the 2 point tax to get the Shuttle and then get the double attack. Plus, when the shuttle gets booted, having an ABT is better)

7) Will a resistance bomber win a regionals (with 30+ particpants)?

  • B) Sadly, No (outside of Epic, I can't really see these guys getting playtime)

8) The first Kimoglia to win a regional (with 30+ participants) will be...?

  • E) None of above (I think these guys will suffer the same fate as most B-Wing and G1A pilots, fun for casual, but not enough for the big leagues)

Thanks for doing this! Can't wait to see what the future holds!

On 12/1/2017 at 9:19 AM, wurms said:

Predictions for regionals of 30 or more persons:

1) What ship will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Resistance Bomber
  • B) Gunboat (QD+ 3 NU)
  • C) Sheathipede
  • D) TIE Silencer
  • E) Kimoglia

2) What will happen first with the gunboat

  • A) A four generic gunboat squad will take a regional!!!
  • B) Gunboats won't win a single regional
  • C) Vynder will win a regional
  • D) Karasabi will win a regional
  • E) Other: 1-3 generic gunboats will be in a winning list. (QD+ 3 NU)

3) What version of Kylo TIE Silencer will win a regional (with 30+ participants) first?

  • A) Push The Limit (Kylo + x2 Rho on 1/6/18)
  • B) Veteran Instincts
  • C) Other EPT
  • D) Kylo wont win a regional

4) Will "Blackout" or a generic TIE Silencer win a regional (with 30+ participants) before Kylo's TIE Silencer?

5) Will a non-docked Sheathipede win a regionals (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) yes Yes YES! (We all know the answer to this one)
  • B) Nope

6) Will a Ghost and a docked Phantom II win a regional (with 30+ participants)?

  • A) Yep
  • B) No way, Jose

7) Will a resistance bomber win a regionals (with 30+ particpants)?

  • A) YES!!!
  • B) Sadly, No (Came close, grabbing 2nd a few times)

8) The first Kimogila to win a regional (with 30+ participants) will be...?

  • A) Torani Gulda (PS8)
  • B) Dalen Oberos (PS7)
  • C) Cartel Enforcer (PS5)
  • D) Cartel Brute (PS3) (4 ship scum)
  • E) None of above
  • F) Multiple kimoglias will be in the winning list!!!

Answers above in red. Results are from list juggler.

How'd your guesses go?

  1. thought silencer would get the first regionals
  2. called 3 generic boats, but thought they'd be linked HLCs
  3. called PTL kylo
  4. Called no blackout win (I still like him though :( )
  5. had a feeling non-docked sheathe would take a regionals (had no idea how dumb they'd be)
  6. docked phantom-2's benefit is bad and nowhere near the first phantom, anyone could tell at a first glance
  7. called no bombers winning regionals (Crimson spec is more fun than I had anticipated)
  8. completely whiffed on Kimoglias being in a regional winning list

and i completely forgot I posted here :P

the common theme here, though, is that all the ships in this wave were better than I thought they'd be (except the resistance bomber, of which only Crimson Specialist is better than I thought he'd be)

Edited by ficklegreendice

Hmm. I got 5 out of eight right. Not too bad.

Edited by SabineKey