10 minutes ago, shmitty said:Holy shirt, I played a game of Armada yesterday!
Even crazier, I wrote up a forking battle report!
PS, I love The Good Place
The Good Place is great, and continues Ken Tremendous's series of stellar work.
A Life Day Special - Steel Command Containment Thread
14 minutes ago, shmitty said:PS, I love The Good Place
So good!
33 minutes ago, shmitty said:Holy shirt, I played a game of Armada yesterday!
Even crazier, I wrote up a forking battle report!
PS, I love The Good Place
Go Hera go!!
2 hours ago, shmitty said:Holy shirt, I played a game of Armada yesterday!
Even crazier, I wrote up a forking battle report!
PS, I love The Good Place
You have spent more on Sato squads than I do.... just take that in.
11 minutes ago, Ginkapo said:You have spent more on Sato squads than I do.... just take that in.
Well sure, but I don't have to issue any squadron commands. Leaving all 5 of my ships to focus on rolling more dice.
I'm playing games too!
http://www.steelstrategy.com/2017/12/what-is-biggs-playing-now-moffy-j.html
2 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:I'm playing games too!
http://www.steelstrategy.com/2017/12/what-is-biggs-playing-now-moffy-j.html
Yuss.... CRIS!
18 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:Damaged Controls: The damage is assigned during the Move Ship step. I don't know when else it could possibly be? All other overlapping effects take place at the same time, so the player gets to
They're just settling the "can I ram you to make you take extra damage from your Damaged Controls?" debate.
Although they forgot Garel's Honor in the round-up.
Happy Life Day! Spoilers for The Last Jedi below:
http://www.steelstrategy.com/2017/12/truthiness-vs-logic-poe-damerons.html?m=1
24 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:Happy Life Day! Spoilers for The Last Jedi below:
http://www.steelstrategy.com/2017/12/truthiness-vs-logic-poe-damerons.html?m=1
"The most Star Wars plan imaginable, one just dumb enough to work." Oh my God this is brilliant, I'm dying.
For myself, as half-a**ed and cockamamie as Poe's plan was (and it was, as @Truthiness said, field officer grade stupid), the entire thing could have been avoided, had either Leia or Holdo pulled their heads out of, well in Leia's case a medical bay, and told Poe and the rest of the staff the plan. Everything could have been avoided, including the necessity of Rose guarding the escape pods. I wouldn't have willingly sacrificed my only combat capability, but if I were going to, I would have made sure the plan to lose as little as possible was clear to everyone, because without it, all that's clear is that we're going to lose everything, just slower than we might otherwise (turning and fighting whatever the First Order calls the new Death Squadron trying to run them down).
And let's not forget a Vice Admiral (Holdo's official title) apparently doesn't understand basic logistics. YOU'RE A STAFF OFFICER, THAT'S ALMOST YOUR ENTIRE JOB. Why not save everyone on the other three ships, shift as much fuel as possible after the Silencer pulled away (they were clearly maintaining formation just fine), and leave the other ships on autopilot to get the Raddus as far away from the enemy as possible for as long as possible. This is also ignoring that TLJ ignored spaceflight physics, but that's Star Wars since ANH for you.
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That's a **** of a response.
@TruthinessThe first mistake was promoting Poe to Commander. That doesnt justify not telling him the plan.
QuoteThis is why you don't form plans in a bubble.
-- @Truthiness
You mean like showing up to a ship you don't know and hinging the survival of your organization on your personal plan and then not even disclosing it to your senior staff officers, much less getting feedback on it? That kind of bubble?
Poe was entirely in the right here. He is a senior officer--he was not commissioned to mindlessly follow orders, but to make intelligent decisions pursuant to the organization's goals in a manner consistent with their values. Those values eminently place individual initiative over blind fellowship (see Biggs' point on Raddus).
Holdo is 100% responsible for basically everything that went wrong from the time she took command on. This is why AFI 36-2903 para 3.1.1 explicitly forbids purple hair.
Edited by ArdaedhelI mean, she has to have told somebody the plan unless she sneaked off to the flight deck for a few months in there to learn and execute complete preflight procedures on, what was it, thirty transports?
Or does she trust the SrA crew chiefs more than the fighter wing commander?
4 hours ago, Ardaedhel said:You mean like showing up to a ship you don't know and hinging the survival of your organization on your personal plan and then not even disclosing it to your senior staff officers, much less getting feedback on it? That kind of bubble?
Poe was entirely in the right here. He is a senior officer--he was not commissioned to mindlessly follow orders, but to make intelligent decisions pursuant to the organization's goals in a manner consistent with their values. Those values eminently place individual initiative over blind fellowship (see Biggs' point on Raddus).
Holdo is 100% responsible for basically everything that went wrong from the time she took command on. This is why AFI 36-2903 para 3.1.1 explicitly forbids purple hair.
Well, once he was demoted he wasn't a senior officer any more.
And he had demonstrated that he couldn't be trusted to follow orders just hours before. Which turned out to be a correct assessment when he mutinied.
Both his assault on the dreadnought and his side mission to get a hacker (in defiance of higher ranks) resulted in many Resistance deaths.
5 hours ago, Democratus said:Well, once he was demoted he wasn't a senior officer any more.
And he had demonstrated that he couldn't be trusted to follow orders just hours before. Which turned out to be a correct assessment when he mutinied.
Both his assault on the dreadnought and his side mission to get a hacker (in defiance of higher ranks) resulted in many Resistance deaths.
He was demoted but not relieved of command. Whether that's because the screenwriters don't understand war or they just didn't care, he was still CAG for the Raddus, which by definition is a senior officer. A better argument is that the starfighter wing was annihilated, but that wasn't his fault (he didn't order shifting the shields and not back when the Silencer appeared), but even then the previous points stand and it's always best to have as many points of view as can be managed if Holdo couldn't manage him, she shouldn't have assumed command, or should have known that and made other arrangements. Holdo's goodbye to Leia is only the final nail in that coffin, because it was pretty clear (to me) she already was aware of Poe and his traits.
As far as following orders is concerned, Poe demonstrated he's capable of exceptional leadership and charisma. That is exactly the sort of person you WANT following orders, and he has demonstrated if he hasn't bought into those orders he won't care. Whether or not that makes him a good subordinate, it makes him dangerous to leave out in the cold because you're compensating for taking over for Leia. His follow on actions demonstrate precisely why, he's reckless but also aggressive and better than average at achieving objectives (his part of the plan went off without a hitch). In short Holdo was an idiot and she had the information to predict her failures at her disposal.
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13 hours ago, BiggsIRL said:Happy Life Day! Spoilers for The Last Jedi below:
http://www.steelstrategy.com/2017/12/truthiness-vs-logic-poe-damerons.html?m=1
Standing by my everyone was wrong viewpoint.
What was refreshing was that no ones mistakes were magically taken away. The consequences are there and must be dealt with. But many of the characters seemed to learn from them and didn’t repeat them in the end.
Man this article was fun to write.
#StupidFlyboysRuinEverything
Edited by TruthinessI kinda want Chiss leadership on the capital world as emissaries so we can have the Chiss help the resistance. I need to read up more on the Chiss Ascendancy.
Happy holidays to everyone from Steel Squadron. Hope you all got the games you wanted (except for Armada, because Wave 7 isn't out yet).
On 12/23/2017 at 6:06 PM, TallGiraffe said:I kinda want Chiss leadership on the capital world as emissaries so we can have the Chiss help the resistance. I need to read up more on the Chiss Ascendancy.
Speaking of the Chiss, I'm kinda wondering if an extra-galactic threat is coming. Thrawn setup hints that the Chiss were preparing to face something far worse than the Empire. That might have been referring to Snoke, but I'm not so sure. After all, the First Order really isn't all that different from the Empire, and my impressions was Thrawn sees the Empire as necessary for facing whatever is coming. Could this be what Johnson's coming trilogy will be about?
God, please don't be the Vong. Actually, you know what? It can be the Vong so long as they're not invisible to the Force and thus undermine the entire concept of the Force. Everything else about them I'm kinda cool with.
3 hours ago, Truthiness said:Speaking of the Chiss, I'm kinda wondering if an extra-galactic threat is coming. Thrawn setup hints that the Chiss were preparing to face something far worse than the Empire. That might have been referring to Snoke, but I'm not so sure. After all, the First Order really isn't all that different from the Empire, and my impressions was Thrawn sees the Empire as necessary for facing whatever is coming. Could this be what Johnson's coming trilogy will be about?
God, please don't be the Vong. Actually, you know what? It can be the Vong so long as they're not invisible to the Force and thus undermine the entire concept of the Force. Everything else about them I'm kinda cool with.
Even the sadomasochistic torture dumbness and the EXTREEEEM piercings because 90s or whatever?
2 hours ago, geek19 said:Even the sadomasochistic torture dumbness and the EXTREEEEM piercings because 90s or whatever?
"Sir, the enemy has been sighted and they're... oh my god."
"What is it, lieutenant?"
"Well sir, they appear to be extremely edgy and geared towards teenagers. They're everywhere!"
"Oh crap, is this the Hot Topic wars all over again? Lieutenant, warn your men! Expect candy goths. I repeat, candy goths. RUN WHILE YOU STILL CAN."
"IT'S TOO LATE SIR, THEY'LL BE ON US IN SECONDS AND THEY'RE ALL WEARING JACK SKELLINGTON HOODIES AND... *static, gunshots, silence.*
"...those poor, doomed, bastards."
6 hours ago, Truthiness said:Speaking of the Chiss, I'm kinda wondering if an extra-galactic threat is coming. Thrawn setup hints that the Chiss were preparing to face something far worse than the Empire. That might have been referring to Snoke, but I'm not so sure. After all, the First Order really isn't all that different from the Empire, and my impressions was Thrawn sees the Empire as necessary for facing whatever is coming. Could this be what Johnson's coming trilogy will be about?
God, please don't be the Vong. Actually, you know what? It can be the Vong so long as they're not invisible to the Force and thus undermine the entire concept of the Force. Everything else about them I'm kinda cool with.
Also in the Aftermath trilogy, bad as it was, Gallius Rax says at the end that the emperor sense something coming from outside the galaxy. I first thought it was Snoke