10 hours ago, geek19 said:

Even the sadomasochistic torture dumbness and the EXTREEEEM piercings because 90s or whatever?

The self flagellation can be tweaked to be more like 40k's Imperial Fists. I was referring more to the biotech than anything.

13 hours ago, geek19 said:

Even the sadomasochistic torture dumbness and the EXTREEEEM piercings because 90s or whatever?

"We need something to make the aliens from outside the galaxy even more alien than the aliens we already have within the galaxy."

"Well, we could make them literally impossible to understand / comprehend. Like maybe they are gas based life forms and only communicate through chromatic changes, and don't see carbon based life as being sentient - just some garbage that makes their existence harder."

"Nah, like they whip themselves and have spiky piercings, and don't believe in symmetry. Also they fly spaceships made of plants and want to destroy droids. Oh, and one drops a moon on Chewbacca so we don't have to debate whether to write out 'HRRRRRRNNNN' every time he says something or translate it in brackets."

10 hours ago, BiggsIRL said:

"We need something to make the aliens from outside the galaxy even more alien than the aliens we already have within the galaxy."

"Well, we could make them literally impossible to understand / comprehend. Like maybe they are gas based life forms and only communicate through chromatic changes, and don't see carbon based life as being sentient - just some garbage that makes their existence harder."

"Nah, like they whip themselves and have spiky piercings, and don't believe in symmetry. Also they fly spaceships made of plants and want to destroy droids. Oh, and one drops a moon on Chewbacca so we don't have to debate whether to write out 'HRRRRRRNNNN' every time he says something or translate it in brackets."

The worst part is it is still a better overall series than "Jedi Bug Sex Orgy vs Wedge Antilles Brother-In-Law's Chiss Friends"

On 12/23/2017 at 0:46 PM, GiledPallaeon said:

He was demoted but not relieved of command. Whether that's because the screenwriters don't understand war or they just didn't care, he was still CAG for the Raddus , which by definition is a senior officer. A better argument is that the starfighter wing was annihilated, but that wasn't his fault (he didn't order shifting the shields and not back when the Silencer appeared), but even then the previous points stand and it's always best to have as many points of view as can be managed if Holdo couldn't manage him, she shouldn't have assumed command, or should have known that and made other arrangements. Holdo's goodbye to Leia is only the final nail in that coffin, because it was pretty clear (to me) she already was aware of Poe and his traits.

As far as following orders is concerned, Poe demonstrated he's capable of exceptional leadership and charisma. That is exactly the sort of person you WANT following orders, and he has demonstrated if he hasn't bought into those orders he won't care. Whether or not that makes him a good subordinate, it makes him dangerous to leave out in the cold because you're compensating for taking over for Leia. His follow on actions demonstrate precisely why, he's reckless but also aggressive and better than average at achieving objectives (his part of the plan went off without a hitch). In short Holdo was an idiot and she had the information to predict her failures at her disposal.

Did they say that Finn was the CAG in the movie? Maybe I missed it.

Everything you describe here is the makings of a bad subordinate. If you can't count on someone in the chain of command to follow orders without having things explained to them every time - then they don't belong in a military organization. He literally threw a mutiny as a temper tantrum because he wasn't given classified information.

On 12/24/2017 at 10:41 PM, Truthiness said:

God, please don't be the Vong. Actually, you know what? It can be the Vong so long as they're not invisible to the Force and thus undermine the entire concept of the Force. Everything else about them I'm kinda cool with.

I'd like to see them make the invaders the droid army that had the Vong so scared of technology in the first place. If the Vong are involved at all make them refugees fleeing from the bots that took over their galaxy.

On 12/26/2017 at 8:53 AM, Democratus said:

Did they say that Finn was the CAG in the movie? Maybe I missed it.

Everything you describe here is the makings of a bad subordinate. If you can't count on someone in the chain of command to follow orders without having things explained to them every time - then they don't belong in a military organization. He literally threw a mutiny as a temper tantrum because he wasn't given classified information.

Said, no, but he's definitely squadron commander, and there's only one squadron, so he's kinda CAG by default. There definitely isn't anyone else shown in a remotely similar role.

While I would subtly disagree with the why about the temper tantrum (he was terrified of the Supremacy like any other sane person would be in his shoes), you're not wrong. However, and this may just be my leadership style, but he's also one of the most talented and charismatic leaders the Resistance has, and that was a waste of him to shove him to the sidelines with nothing to do. "Return to your post"? Holdo (ought to have) known as well as anyone else his "post" ( Black One ) was obliterated. What do you want him to do, fiddle his thumbs with the damage control teams putting out the fire and moving through the wreckage of his friends and subordinates? You "know" Leia is grooming him to take over for her, and if he's ever going to fully rise into the role, he's going to have to feel like he's been brought into the command structure, which Holdo rudely locked him out of. We can keep talking around each other in circles, but I think our fundamental PoV difference is whether or not Holdo was "wrong" for locking him out (so smugly), and whether or not that is the fault for Poe's (rash and pretty stupid) follow-ons. (Yes his actions were his choices, but I think that isolating it from the operational context here does him a disservice.)