want to thank Paul (I think) who brought up my question about Team Based Tournaments to the FFG OP representative during the Mandalorian Open Krayt Twitch feed.

Apparently FFG OP is not considered enough actual Teams competing. While Team Epic is fun, that is all it is, fun.

I submitted a proposal to FFG about some options for a Team Based Tournament that should be fairly simple. There are many great formats out there and some have fed off of others and made their own adjustments.

You can rip this one apart, debate, use it for toilet paper, but I do ask one thing. If you would like to see this type of officially supported tournament please submit something to FFG. Maybe if they get enough feedback from the community they will actually consider this great format that all i have heard is positive.

Here is the .doc link https://1drv.ms/w/s!AvNki5SV3htNg6Q27jxSDilDefuL1A

To summarize, odd teams so that the team with most wins in a matchup gets the team win, MOV is the team combined points destroyed, and the team round robins the factions. Matchups per round is first determined by the higher team MOV.

I've run a couple of team tournaments (4 and 3 player), and the 3 player worked out the best by far. MUCH easier to accommodate with current tournament software. Yours is almost identical to what I ran, except mine was a 4 round in which the team all played team epic with components of their 3 lists in a mixed-faction format. I also only had 11 teams, so 4 rounds was perfect. 3 person teams are far easier to get going than 4+ person teams. Gencon is a great venue, but I'd add that Adepticon also would be a good one!

This seems very similar to the 8-person team championships for Warhammer 40k during the ETC (of which I've attended 4). I like the idea!

On 11/30/2017 at 11:59 AM, jonnyd said:

I've run a couple of team tournaments (4 and 3 player), and the 3 player worked out the best by far. MUCH easier to accommodate with current tournament software. Yours is almost identical to what I ran, except mine was a 4 round in which the team all played team epic with components of their 3 lists in a mixed-faction format. I also only had 11 teams, so 4 rounds was perfect. 3 person teams are far easier to get going than 4+ person teams. Gencon is a great venue, but I'd add that Adepticon also would be a good one!

I truly love Epic. I wrote this to make easy options but I truly love Epic.

I also sent the information to another person and it "might" show up at Origins. I can't seem to get Steve Cameron's email correct, otherwise Cascades would also have a copy.

On 12/1/2017 at 7:52 AM, Glyph said:

This seems very similar to the 8-person team championships for Warhammer 40k during the ETC (of which I've attended 4). I like the idea!

That is interesting, the only response on Reddit comment was negative with ETC used as an example. I don't really have a problem with other formats except to say that I find it more interesting when a player can play more than one list.

I've seen on this forum (can't find it now) about Europe running 3 man or 5 man teams like this. When I ran my 3 man team I had to come up with a creative way to pair people after they had chosen which list they'd play for the match. I did this because of a vocal minority complaining about how they didn't want to be hard countered all day long. While this is a possibility, the Europeans have shown it isn't likely or they take it in stride much better. European team pairings were like this:

Team 1 sends forth one player with a list (Player A). Team 2 sends a player and a list to play team 1 member A.
Team 2 sends their player and list B forth, then team 1 picks one of their two remaining players and lists to play that person.
Team 1 then sends their last player and list to play against team 1's last player and list.

I can see how team 1's player A would get "hard countered" all day long. It may not be a very fun experience. But they do get to pick the other 2 pairings, likely ending in a win for the team since I was doing software pairings based on 300MOV and team results. (Team either won or lost, and MOV was team totals). It should be noted that teams of 3 or 5 make software SUPER easy, and anything that does swiss pairings could be used. I always use cryodex because of custom MOV.

So I changed up how I ran mine and it ended up a little more fun. I had 3 different alt art cards printed for the event. Players were told that in 3 rounds, each player had to play each faction once. Teams would choose which player was playing what faction list before I came by with the alt art cards. I'd bring one set for each team. Players then randomly chose a card out of my hand from Team 1, then Team 2 would do the same. The players that had the same alt art card would play each other.

My way was a neat way over 3 rounds to make sure each team had enough alt art cards for each player to get one of each. There were alt arts of each faction for flavor. And it was the same 3 for the entire event. Round 4, players had to come up with a 150 point list using at least one ship from each previous faction list, as well as only upgrades from the factions. This was to be played on the same 3x3 so streaming was easier. Thinking back on it, I would much rather have just done better streaming and played 300pts vs 300pts on a 3x6 with all team members playing together.

It is tons of fun, and people are interested in the format. Can't wait to see what develops!

X-Wing at ETC has been running for two years now. This August it will be held in Zagreb in Croatia. Feel free to join us

If you have any questions regarding tournament format I would be delighted to help.