Thoughts on this list? It's similar to the classic Han/Jake builds, with the same hammer/anvil game plan. This time, both ships are at PS 11 rather than PS 9, leading to two main advantages: 1) We don't need to worry about an initiative bid due to the large number of PS 9 pilots, and 2) PS 11 Han and Poe are two of the best 1v1 duelists in the game. I personally think that Han with VI is the best ship 1v1.

Han Solo [Original] (46)

Veteran Instincts (1)

Rey (2)

C-3PO (3)

Old Title (1)

Engine Upgrade (4)

Ship total: 57

Poe Dameron [PS 9 version] (33)

Veteran Instincts (1)

R2-D2 (4)

Advanced Optics (2)

Black One (1)

Autothrusters (2)

Ship total: 43

Squad Total: 100

Looks good. VI on Poe got so much better with advanced optics. Otherwise I would say he's too action-lite to pose a threat early-mid game.

How do you tend to fly the two?

Hey,

I played this list last exact list yesterday and it's great. Both ships and great end game pieces like you say.

The only thing I've noticed is that sometimes it struggles to deal damage. The alternative I've tried is Han with Adaptability/Gunner and PS8 Poe with VI. Still very high PS and Han chucks out more damage reliably.

I'm also concerned that if Palp Aces returns both ships wont be able to make a dent.

Another build to consider is PS9 Poe, Predator, Adv Optics, R2D2, AT and Black One. That ship has great mods! A real pain in the endgame.

So um, yaaaaaaa. I love this. So much. I have wanted to fly that same Han for a long time, but finding a wingman has been hard. Poptics, however, fits the bill. I would note that Flight Assist Astro would make him a lot more slippery.

I agree that Flight Assist would be better; I used R2-D2 instead because it's much more forgiving and easy to fly for a new player like me. One question: is Flight assist or BB-8 better?

1 hour ago, BlackOne said:

I agree that Flight Assist would be better; I used R2-D2 instead because it's much more forgiving and easy to fly for a new player like me. One question: is Flight assist or BB-8 better?

I'm going to tell you, from my experience, that R2-D2 is just plain better from a competitve standpoint. I'd also say on Poe with the title, I'd rather have BB-8 than the FAA. BB-8 will give you more time on target.

I also think I kind of love this list.

I'd prefer FAA, as it doesn't lock you into greens to get the free repositions.

Love the list, OP. Would love it better if VI didn't exist and there wasn't a PS war every other wave, but what can you do.

56 minutes ago, ObiWonka said:

...Would love it better if VI didn't exist and there wasn't a PS war every other wave, but what can you do.

Well said. I wish they'd restrict high PS to well known named characters that are explicitly shown on screen, book, or comic to be excellent pilots. No Dengars or Quickdraws. And the number of PS 7-8 pilots with abilities so powerful that they can just use VI or Adaptability instead of a real elite upgrade is also starting to get on my nerves and be a real meta problem (see Tel Trevura, Nym, Old Teroch, and company). Then the truly talented pilots, like Han and Poe and Fen Rau could shine.

My golden rule when building two ships list is to have Gunner, TLT or 4 dice attack. Otherwise two attacks are not enough to seriously dent enemy ships, especially aces like Fenn.
So yes, you have PS 11 on both ships but the problem is they don't hit at all.

On 11/29/2017 at 11:26 PM, Embir82 said:

My golden rule when building two ships list is to have Gunner, TLT or 4 dice attack. Otherwise two attacks are not enough to seriously dent enemy ships, especially aces like Fenn.
So yes, you have PS 11 on both ships but the problem is they don't hit at all.

On 11/29/2017 at 7:54 AM, Tupacca said:

The only thing I've noticed is that sometimes it struggles to deal damage. The alternative I've tried is Han with Adaptability/Gunner and PS8 Poe with VI. Still very high PS and Han chucks out more damage reliably.

I'm also concerned that if Palp Aces returns both ships wont be able to make a dent.

Mathematically, neither Han nor Poe should have any trouble against low-agi ships, but yes, they suck against aces. Han deals an average 0.2 damage to Fen Rau- with Fen's ability offline! How about this wingman instead?

Captain Nym (30)

TLT(6)

Bomblets (3)

Title (0)

Genius (0)

Trajectory Simulator (1)

Ship total: 41

On 11/29/2017 at 9:54 AM, Tupacca said:

The alternative I've tried is Han with Adaptability/Gunner and PS8 Poe with VI. Still very high PS and Han chucks out more damage reliably.

This is the build I've been running and I like it a lot!