I like having this Martial Art around in the galaxy but I was wondering how you portray it in your games? Do you make them have to have the Martial Artists specialty from No Disintegrations? The description for it would suggest a parrying ability that could be possible, as well as an Initiative bonus for a high level of skill with the Martial Art. It also seems like a good way to combat Jedi and I thought it had a list of melee weapons as well as bare fists as a part of the discipline, but the wookieepedia entry doesn't list weapons so maybe I was wrong about that. I guess Brawl weapons wouldn't be an issue but what about staves or swords?

Anyway what, if anything do you do, to represent this martial art in the FFG rules?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Teräs_Käsi

I haven't used Teras Kasi yet, but I made Stava available for 15-20 xp: it gives the users fists the ensnare quality.

Hey, one of my player is a doctor who practice the martial artist doctor. Virbo-knuckles is the answer for the martial artist against Jedi and all. There is one major bad side to martial artist is the player always wanting to hit in strains in order to drop down faster the nemesis since most of enemies have less strain then wounds. So for my case I had to make modifications how my encounters went. Hope it helps

It's not really come up in any of the games I've run long-term, but I'd probably just treat Teras Kasi as being no different from unarmed attacks using the Brawl skill.

If a PC really wants to be a devoted/dedicated student of Teras Kasi, then they should probably pick up the Martial Artist specialization from No Disintegrations, as that would cover the sort of heavy training required to truly become an expert practitioner of Teras Kasi.

If you want the signature move of being able to parry lightsaber attacks barehanded, then martial artist otherwise just fluff the brawl attacks as Teras Käsi. You, and your players, can describe the attacks however you want. And if you're worried about the sanctity of the art, just remember that C3-PO is supposed to be a practioner of it.

10 hours ago, Darth Revenant said:

If you want the signature move of being able to parry lightsaber attacks barehanded, then martial artist otherwise just fluff the brawl attacks as Teras Käsi. You, and your players, can describe the attacks however you want. And if you're worried about the sanctity of the art, just remember that C3-PO is supposed to be a practioner of it.

lol oh god where did that detail originate from? The awful fighting game on Playstation 2?

3 hours ago, Archlyte said:

lol oh god where did that detail originate from? The awful fighting game on Playstation 2?

I was wrong, isn't Teräs Keräsi. But Gravik Nez, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gravik-nez he was crap at it though.

If someone wants the barehanded parry against lightsabers that Teräs Keräsi practioners are famous for though, I would say they need to go into martial artist for unarmed parry. Otherwise they can just narrate brawl attacks in a style fitting to the events and use the names of other Teräs Keräsi aattacks.

1 minute ago, Darth Revenant said:

I was wrong, isn't Teräs Keräsi. But Gravik Nez, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Gravik-nez he was crap at it though.

If someone wants the barehanded parry against lightsabers that Teräs Keräsi practioners are famous for though, I would say they need to go into martial artist for unarmed parry. Otherwise they can just narrate brawl attacks in a style fitting to the events and use the names of other Teräs Keräsi aattacks.

Yeah I think that good advice as to how to look at it, thank you.

Teräs Käsi sounds like something the F&D Warrior splatbook could introduce to the game.

If one of my players was dead-set on learning a martial art but had a valid reason not to spec into it, I would allow them to purchase the Grapple talent for 20xp. This is somewhat along the lines of the talents purchased through scars in the Soldier book. If they role played it well, I might reduce the cost to 15 or 10, depending on the circumstances.

I certainly don't use "Teräs Käsi"

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. "

On ‎12‎/‎13‎/‎2017 at 9:12 AM, Mark Caliber said:

I certainly don't use "Teräs Käsi"

"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid. "

lol ok. I assumed that this would be about how you use it if you use it, but I guess it's good to hear that you don't.

5 hours ago, Archlyte said:

lol ok. I assumed that this would be about how you use it if you use it, but I guess it's good to hear that you don't.

FWIW, IRL my preferred martial arts techniques are the Weaver Stance, Prone Supported, and Prone Unsupported. In that order of preference.

4 minutes ago, Mark Caliber said:

FWIW, IRL my preferred martial arts techniques are the Weaver Stance, Prone Supported, and Prone Unsupported. In that order of preference.

LOL!

1 hour ago, Mark Caliber said:

FWIW, IRL my preferred martial arts techniques are the Weaver Stance, Prone Supported, and Prone Unsupported. In that order of preference.

I go mostly for the fetal position and playing possum myself, as my mastery of the teachings of great sensei Usain Bolt leaves a lot of room for improvement.

On 1.12.2017 at 2:14 AM, [Arkas] said:

Teräs Käsi sounds like something the F&D Warrior splatbook could introduce to the game.

Teräs Käsi sounds in all ways super awkward, because "Käse" is the german word for "cheese"

3 hours ago, MasterZelgadis said:

Teräs Käsi sounds in all ways super awkward, because "Käse" is the german word for "cheese"

True... it is however not pronounced the same way as one would do in german.

18 hours ago, MasterZelgadis said:

Teräs Käsi sounds in all ways super awkward, because "Käse" is the german word for "cheese"

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Teräs Käsi: How do you use it?

Grated, on my lasagna.

I'm not sure if the egrigious umlauts make stupid, or stupid awesome.

Out of curiosity, how do you umlaut-deprived folks across the pond pronounce it?

EDIT: Apparently it's slightly incorrect finnish for "Steel hand". To me it still sounds like "Terrace cheese"

8 minutes ago, penpenpen said:

Out of curiosity, how do you umlaut-deprived folks across the pond pronounce it?

Incorrectly, for the most part.

It be nice if there was an unarmed force spec in the Warrior splat book, like the martial arts spec from No Disintegrations, Warden just doesn't cut it.

Täres Käsi was invented for some Darth Maul novel. The author hat Pentjak Silat, an Indonesian martial art, in mind, when writing. So, it relies on deceptive moves, a deep stance and powerful kicks.

In the 'Aftermath'-trilogy, Grand Admiral Sloane is depicted as an accomplished martial artist, proficient in some sort of Combatives that's oviously taught to the troops and some sort of Kickboxing (Savat or something, sounding like French boxing 'Savate'). Ironically she's not really up to fighting an out-of-shape gutter rat ...

6 hours ago, Sunrider said:

Täres Käsi was invented for some Darth Maul novel. The author hat Pentjak Silat, an Indonesian martial art, in mind, when writing. So, it relies on deceptive moves, a deep stance and powerful kicks.

In the 'Aftermath'-trilogy, Grand Admiral Sloane is depicted as an accomplished martial artist, proficient in some sort of Combatives that's oviously taught to the troops and some sort of Kickboxing (Savat or something, sounding like French boxing 'Savate'). Ironically she's not really up to fighting an out-of-shape gutter rat ...

Masters of Teräs Käsi with Arden Lyn came out 97 though. Which is 2 years before TPM and Maul came out.

To follow movie logic, while there may be many casual practitioners of many arts, only a true practitioner would pick martial artist to turn it from a functional artform to a blade of mastery. For example martial arts was only encountered infrequently in our galaxy, encountered only rarely by some mandolorians on occasion. Yet recently we finally found an Hand of the Emperor who fully embraced the artform, dodging strikes with coordinated dodge and ripped the arm from my comrade as we both saught to fight our way out of the trap on Endor. All bare handed. Even if I wasn't fighting for my father's life at the time; this might have been the second opinion I felt I had no chance against; the first being Vader himself.

Jacen and I escaped him and after damaging the deathstar beam ran into the hand again, this time alone. It erupted into a battle where none of us could make any headway, the Emperor died that moment and the hand lost concentration, allowing us to make our narrow escape. I never feared an unarmed man like I did that Gungan. The fact that unarmed combat was so uncommon made it a very memorable experience.

1 hour ago, Darth Revenant said:

Masters of Teräs Käsi with Arden Lyn came out 97 though. Which is 2 years before TPM and Maul came out.

Correct, but it first appeared in Shadows of the Empire, where Xizor is said to be a master. IIRC, it stayed just a name until Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter, though. At least from a setting perspective - the game had the standard fighting moves of Beat-em-ups of the 90's.

10 minutes ago, Sunrider said:

Correct, but it first appeared in Shadows of the Empire, where Xizor is said to be a master. IIRC, it stayed just a name until Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter, though. At least from a setting perspective - the game had the standard fighting moves of Beat-em-ups of the 90's.

Ah, I tend to block out everything Xizor related from my memory. Xizor and the entire Shadows of the Empire thing was just terrible. So many bad 90's trash tropes all together. Might have to go find a bottle of brandy to rid my brain of the memories again.