For Rey: Gunner vs Finn

By sf1raptor, in X-Wing

So, I have a lightly loaded Rey paired with Dash, and while I love Finn onboard, would Gunner be a better option? Rey has the HotR Falcon title and Veteran Instincts. So which do y’all think is better?

Finn. 4 or 5 well modified dice are hard to block, there are very few ships that can reliably do it.

You also want Expertise way more than VI.

I'd vote Finn due to his synergy with Rey's ability and his ability works on defense as well as offense.

The usual build would be: Finn, Resistance Falcon title, Kanan Jarrus, Expertise if you can fit it in.

Gunner is useful if you expect to face large numbers of high agility ships; but at the moment in competitive play you're more likely to face low agility/high health ships, and won't miss that often with a 3+ (modified) dice attack. In which case it's better to whack Finn on there and go for the big damage (and added defence), than take a potential insurance shot that may not trigger that often.

Ok. Thank y’all. I also don’t have Expertise (no U-wing), but thanks for the advice.

Rey+Dash is a bit tricky. Rey wants Kanan ad crew, while Dash usually wants Rey. Alternatively Dash would also take Kanan.

It‘s not as easy to make these two ships fit together

5 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Rey+Dash is a bit tricky. Rey wants Kanan ad crew, while Dash usually wants Rey. Alternatively Dash would also take Kanan.

It‘s not as easy to make these two ships fit together

There aren't enough points to fit them together. With minimal loadouts, even with Mangler Dash, they both come in at over 50.

8 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

Rey+Dash is a bit tricky. Rey wants Kanan ad crew, while Dash usually wants Rey. Alternatively Dash would also take Kanan.

It‘s not as easy to make these two ships fit together

The main issue is points. Even if you drop Dash to a Mangler you're still not going to be able to fit the optimal choices in.

Dash can exist without Rey crew - the original SuperDash incarnation of PtL/Kyle Katarn still works (or if necessary he could pick still remove stress via Kanan while he's on another ship).

But yeah, Rey with Finn & title plus Mangler Outrider Dash is 96 points. Not much room to maneuver.

:ph34r: @thespaceinvader

Edited by FTS Gecko

I actually fitted Dash with HLC, Outrider, and Trick Shot. The squad’s worked pretty well so far against 2 PTL FOs, a PTL Striker (Pure Sabbac), and a Swarm Leader SF (the one that attack when it loses shields).

Try this.

Rey (52)
YT-1300 (45), Veteran Instincts (1), Finn (5), "Chopper" (0), Millennium Falcon (Segnor's Loop Version) (1)

Dash Rendar (48)
YT-2400 Freighter (36), Trick Shot (0), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Outrider (5)

Chopper's free, so why not? If you free two points by dropping to Mangler on Dash, I would probably recommend changing Rey's EPT to Adaptability or Trick Shot, then switching Chopper to Dash (again, why not?) and giving Rey Kanan crew for an optimal Rey build while Dash should function fine with what he has. Dash won't be stressed enough to justify putting Kanan on him instead.

Edited by Npmartian
Wording/more analysis
5 minutes ago, Npmartian said:

Try this.

Rey (52)
YT-1300 (45), Veteran Instincts (1), Finn (5), "Chopper" (0), Millennium Falcon (Segnor's Loop Version) (1)

Dash Rendar (48)
YT-2400 Freighter (36), Trick Shot (0), Heavy Laser Cannon (7), Outrider (5)

Chopper's free, so why not?

Fair. Once it's out, putting the Courier droid on Dash might provide some value.

45 minutes ago, thespaceinvader said:

There aren't enough points to fit them together. With minimal loadouts, even with Mangler Dash, they both come in at over 50.

Yes, of course. But even with the points it‘s tricky as they compete for very similar cards.

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

The usual build would be: Finn, Resistance Falcon title, Kanan Jarrus, Expertise if you can fit it in.

Gunner is useful if you expect to face large numbers of high agility ships; but at the moment in competitive play you're more likely to face low agility/high health ships, and won't miss that often with a 3+ (modified) dice attack. In which case it's better to whack Finn on there and go for the big damage (and added defence), than take a potential insurance shot that may not trigger that often.

I've faced a pretty nasty Expertise Rey variant which combined her with Finn and Zeb. She would basically charge face-first into you, and her range-1 shot would usually be better than your range-1 shot.

35 minutes ago, PhantomFO said:

I've faced a pretty nasty Expertise Rey variant which combined her with Finn and Zeb. She would basically charge face-first into you, and her range-1 shot would usually be better than your range-1 shot.

Combine with Jan support and Swarm Leader for maximum silliness!

I like Trick Shot on Dash. It’s pretty nasty.

This could also be an option if you can get your hands on an Expertise. Rey just focuses for defense, Chopper exists in case you need an action OR ELSE YOU GONNA DIE, Dash is just your build but with mangler instead. When Courier Droid drops, slap it on Dash so you can deploy at PS 8.

Rey (55)
YT-1300 (45), Expertise (4), Finn (5), "Chopper" (0), Millennium Falcon (Segnor's Loop Version) (1)

Dash Rendar (45)
YT-2400 Freighter (36), Trick Shot (0), “Mangler” Cannon (4), Outrider (5)

Something like this can be a lot of fun.

YT-1300: •Rey (53)
•Millennium Falcon (HotR) (1)
Wired (1)
•Finn (5)
•Hera Syndulla (1)

YT-2400 Freighter: •Dash Rendar (47)
•Outrider (5)
Trick Shot (0)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
•"Leebo" (2)

43 minutes ago, Josh3794 said:

Something like this can be a lot of fun.

YT-1300: •Rey (53)
•Millennium Falcon (HotR) (1)
Wired (1)
•Finn (5)
•Hera Syndulla (1)

YT-2400 Freighter: •Dash Rendar (47)
•Outrider (5)
Trick Shot (0)
"Mangler" Cannon (4)
•"Leebo" (2)

I like this a lot! Rey is very interesting. However, I fear that Leebo will make you very predictable, maybe consider a self-stress mechanic on Rey to make Wired and Hera more reliable, then something else for Dash (or potentially no crew)

Sadly, I don’t have the Ghost or Wired, but these all look great!

I'd say skip Dash for a Wild Space Fringer. Throw on Dash crew, and either title-Mangler, or just HLC.

That'll allow space for a full-size Rey.

This is a build that I'm going to try on my next game with my son:

Rey (45)
Daredevil (3)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon, The 2nd (1)

Total = 61

12 minutes ago, SlaveofChrist said:

This is a build that I'm going to try on my next game with my son:

Rey (45)
Daredevil (3)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Millennium Falcon, The 2nd (1)

Total = 61

Have you experienced the joy that is Rey with Expert Handling?

Not yet, I was late in picking up this expansion - will be the first time I take out the new Falcon for a spin with Rey, but that does sound pretty good ^_^ !

9 hours ago, theBitterFig said:

I'd say skip Dash for a Wild Space Fringer. Throw on Dash crew, and either title-Mangler, or just HLC.

That'll allow space for a full-size Rey.

Or at least down-scale dash to Leebo. His ability is quite a bit better than a lot of people expect, especially with the risks of being "shown the dark side", and if you want a budget Outrider you can do a lot worse, especially with Determination. Discarding (not even just flipping face down) about 50% of the critical damage you suffer, including all blinded pilots, is surprisingly nasty.

Downsizing to another 2400 is probably the way to go. If the enemy goes all-out on PS, even VI won't guarantee you will shoot first. Personally, I find it actually quite hard not to think around the asteroids- if that applies to you as well, other abilities and EPTs will undoubtedly serve you better.