2 hours ago, geek19 said:

If you want real BS, Physics tests. There was one where the curved average out of 30 possible points was a 9. Good times, quantum mechanics! Good times!

Whoa whoa whoa. The problem with most of us physics profs is that we want to give tests that teach as well as evaluate. I continue to resist that urge, but as I get further into my career it gets more difficult. "Hmm. I always thought that was a neat little result, that derivation of yhe Clebsch-Gordan coefficients for the Zeeman Effect in hydrogen. I'll bet students would get a real charge out of deriving it on an exam." Then I try to remember how long it took me to do it the first time I saw it and promptly discard it for a more reasonable problem.

9 hours ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Squadrons are not invincible, and bringing 100 points of your own squadrons, with support craft, is far from the only solution. Managing 60 points of squadrons against a superior force certainly takes skill, but it’s entirely doable if you leverage your other advantages.

Never said they are, but because of their movement flexibility, and their strenght against brace makes them really strong. And bringing squads might not be the only solution, its usually the most effective. Sadly, flakking prevents you from shooting ships. Lets say you have 70 Points more in ships (130vs60 Point squadballs). It buys you a glad2/neb with two blues, raider+goz 2+1 Black, corvette+flotilla, 3 flottilas... Sometimes might worth It, but you Will have to be at the right place at the right time to cover your fighters with flak. Ofc doable, but a lot harder in my opinion. Easier if you can pin down your opponents ball by kiling Intel, but It takes quite a lot of Points to Take those squads. Dengar and Jan is quite usual here, It takes roughly 4 squad to Take them down. When I Plan my list, I assume we are on the same skill level, and It becomes a numbers game. Or wealth, which of you were able to sacrifice more goats to the god of dice:)

@GiledPallaeon Im not sure what you find negative, please pm me with the parts you think are. English isnt my native language, I might have used wrong phrases.

I replied to a post where someone was complaining about impa getting acces to fc-s, saying in one or other way they already have those effects, the opportuity opens up to stack them, but in my opinion it wont be OP because of the high opportunity cost. Also, provided a theoretical ~average fleet with 100 points of squads. But never said its 6 yv-s or anything stupid like this. At all scales, there are reasonable squadballs, and yes, the more points you invest into them the more anti-ship powers they need to provide you with. Lets say 6 defensers or jan-biggs-4x Wings meet the 100 points criteria and wouldnt consider bad composition.

If their squadrons are making you consider using a brace, you’ve already made a mistake somewhere. I don’t advocate for no squadrons; most people would agree that’s a difficult, fringe thing to do. I think the disconnect is in light squadron coverage: 40-65ish points of fighter squadrons. The problem with assuming an equally skilled opponent will evade/quickly obliterate your squadrons due to numbers is that both players are trying to do different things with different tools. The payoff will be different as well, and so will the things you can do, skill aside. For example: if you brought Jan, and I engage you with 3 of my 6 TIEs in two or three different spots, it doesn’t matter how good you are; you can’t use your intel perfectly, and you will have to use precious commands on your escorts destroying them. Which means I bought an extra activation or two before Yavaris, which my ISD will hopefully put to good use. Next round, I’ll send the rest in and stall again. For 48 points, I’ll take the fight to the carriers. Or, alternatively, I’ll leave my fighters just out of striking range and let you get in close (I will try to avoid Yavaris like the plague, though ) Once 2-3 entire rounds have been devoted to a flak/fighter trap (and one does need the right fleet for this,) I have control of the last 1-2 rounds, since most of a carrier list’s punch comes from 134 fleet points.

TLDR: Pretty much everyone agrees squadrons > no squadrons (barring specific, unusual strats.) It’s also pretty widely agreed upon, at least in my experience, that you really don’t need more than sixty points to be okay. I’m under the impression most metas bear this out too.

As for fleet commands, they add 16 points total to an ISD. I’m not saying it’s OP, but it’s certainly not prohibitively expensive either.

Also, when you want to ping someone, it only works if you don’t use caps.

e.g. @Coldhands

2 hours ago, Coldhands said:

Or wealth, which of you were able to sacrifice more goats to the god of dice:)

I thought it was chickens! No wonder my dice have been sub-par.

1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I thought it was chickens! No wonder my dice have been sub-par.

Someone should really conduct a seminar. Anecdotally-speaking, people are all over the place on this kind of thing.

6 hours ago, RobertK said:

Whoa whoa whoa. The problem with most of us physics profs is that we want to give tests that teach as well as evaluate. I continue to resist that urge, but as I get further into my career it gets more difficult. "Hmm. I always thought that was a neat little result, that derivation of yhe Clebsch-Gordan coefficients for the Zeeman Effect in hydrogen. I'll bet students would get a real charge out of deriving it on an exam." Then I try to remember how long it took me to do it the first time I saw it and promptly discard it for a more reasonable problem.

I've always felt that a hard science degree (math, engr, physics) aren't so much earned as survived through. So long as you can make it through all the classes, you'll get your degree. It's the "make it through" part that gets tricky.

1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I thought it was chickens! No wonder my dice have been sub-par.

It is chickens, don't listen to these heathens....????

50 minutes ago, geek19 said:

I've always felt that a hard science degree (math, engr, physics) aren't so much earned as survived through. So long as you can make it through all the classes, you'll get your degree. It's the "make it through" part that gets tricky.

That does fit my experience. I consider the framed piece of paper on the wall a "survival certificate".

7 hours ago, Coldhands said:

Or wealth, which of you were able to sacrifice more goats to the god of dice:)

4 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I thought it was chickens! No wonder my dice have been sub-par.

2 hours ago, Darth Lupine said:

It is chickens, don't listen to these heathens....????

So if I beat a goat to death with a chicken I'll have all my bases covered right?

Just now, Megatronrex said:

So if I beat a goat to death with a chicken I'll have all my bases covered right?

Only if you do so in the presence of a cow, using your left hand, on a Friday.

Just now, Drasnighta said:

Only if you do so in the presence of a cow, using your left hand, on a Friday.

I'm in luck then there's a cow pasture right across the street from me.

3 hours ago, geek19 said:

I've always felt that a hard science degree (math, engr, physics) aren't so much earned as survived through. So long as you can make it through all the classes, you'll get your degree. It's the "make it through" part that gets tricky.

Law school was like that too.

Of course then the bar exam comes out of nowhere and kicks the crap out of you.

1 minute ago, Megatronrex said:

I'm in luck then there's a cow pasture right across the street from me.

If it's not located on a leyline it's no good.

3 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

Only if you do so in the presence of a cow, using your left hand, on a Friday.

???????

And this thread has been derailed....

5 minutes ago, svelok said:

If it's not located on a leyline it's no good.

Aw man now I have to remember where I put my dowsing rods.

28 minutes ago, Megatronrex said:

So if I beat a goat to death with a chicken I'll have all my bases covered right?

Yes, covered with blood.

1 minute ago, Coldhands said:

Yes, covered with blood.

Goat blood or chicken blood?

13 minutes ago, DiabloAzul said:

Goat blood or chicken blood?

There's far too much confusion and conflicting information right now. I think our best bet is to assemble a few days early at the World Championships and do a strict, scientifically-rigorous, double-blind study.

11 minutes ago, DiabloAzul said:

Goat blood or chicken blood?

They're both delicious

13 hours ago, geek19 said:

If you want real BS, Physics tests. There was one where the curved average out of 30 possible points was a 9. Good times, quantum mechanics! Good times!

Quantum mechanics was the second most difficult class I took in college. It exercised parts of my brain I didn't even know I had...

I took a class on medical imagining in grad school that dove into the theoretical physics behind how ultrasounds, CT/PET scans and X rays work. It hurt my brain a lot (the lecture format was awful) and the only thing I learned is that most of what you see in an ultrasound isn't really there.

Okay, FFG. The consumer has spoken. Wave 8: red dice altar and incense set. Ball’s in your court.

8 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

Okay, FFG. The consumer has spoken. Wave 8: red dice altar and incense set. Ball’s in your court.

Plus a bowl to catch the chicken blood. And a kris knife.