Regional Results thread.

By Timathius, in X-Wing

Posted at
5 hours ago, Estarriol said:

And triple bounty hunters came top in Swiss? What the **** went on out there?

Haha, it was Miranda Low Biggs. Mynocks having fun on list juggler, i guess.

Posted at
3 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

The sad state of Imperials continues i see.

Indeed, but with palp aces doing goodish at top their play and the Silencer comming out I honestly expect imps to be getting nerfed soon, becuse you can't have the bad guys be competitive

Posted at
6 hours ago, KommanderKeldoth said:

I won the Fresno regional with Palpoons (Vader and QD at PS 11). I think I only used palpatine on defense a handful of times the whole tournament. Mostly used him to push through crits to trigger harpoon or to just maul ships that had their shields stripped.

Congrats! Good to see Vader win a regional.

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Edited by Boom Owl
Posted at
6 hours ago, SabineKey said:

May I ask to the basis for this conclusion?

A vast amount of sodium chloride that would make Lot's wife blush.

Posted at
9 hours ago, Blail Blerg said:

The sad state of Imperials continues i see.

Seriously?

Look, I'm a heavy Imperial player (with the occasional Rebel list), and I understand there was some recent rough times, but we are seeing Imperials back on top at the Regional level and you still think its a continuation of a sad state? Posts like this is what gives weight to the stereotype that Imp players would rather whine than get gud. Heck, this is even before the gunboat hits the live tables, and it has already shaking things up Vassal. I'm personally pretty stoked to see Vader back on top tables in his /x1, Palp's seeing play, Kylo Ren is going to shake things up here in a few weeks. The Dark Side is going to be tearing stuff up again.

Posted at
16 hours ago, S41X said:

Congrats on the win! That last game was awesome to watch! May I ask how your other matches went? Did the Imperial alpha strike pretty much win your games outright? Or were they more drawn out with Vader cleaning up house after the dust settled.

Thank you! It was a stressful two days but also very fun.

The PS 11 alpha with two harpoons is pretty brutal. You can pretty much roll up with perfect board knowledge and erase one of your opponent's ships before they fire. Even auzitucks. It is a great matchup to take down low agility small bases like tactician wookies and scurrgs.

That being said, I was lucky because I never went up against a bumpmaster (which would have been very challenging) and I never had to go up against a really high health large base that could tank ordnance.

My only loss over the tournament was against Blair's z-95 swarm during the swiss! I got too aggressive on my opening and ended up losing the shuttle and having vader drop down to one hull on the opening round! I was able to kill a couple of Z's and run vader away but we ended up with a tie on points and going to final salvo (his 10 dice vs. my remaining 4). I was super nervous going into the final table but I learned from my mistake and managed to pull out a really strong opening engagement and keep it going from there.

A lot of my practice with the list consisted of making strong turn 0 decisions (rock placement and deployment) which is crucial for setting up an alpha strike and taking full advantage of deploying last. I also practiced range controlling initial engagements. If you go back and watch the opening of the final game you will see that I was doing some barrel rolling with both of my aces to a) get vader around the corner asteroid and set him up in a flanking position at range 2 and b) try to get an engagement with Quickdraw that would put his third harpoon missile carrier out of range.

Edited by KommanderKeldoth
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This thread got pushed many pages back...

Regionals from this weekend I think we're Austin and NYC, maybe more?

Posted at

Sounds right, Texas and Rochester, NY. I heard Quad Wooks won Austin.

Edited by HanScottFirst
Posted at
5 hours ago, HanScottFirst said:

Sounds right, Texas and Rochester, NY. I heard Quad Wooks won Austin.

Didn’t even bother watching that game. The other list was Poe Lowrick Jess, so it was pretty obvious which way it was going. Nice that it was basically my triple t-70 list switching Nunb for the Wookiee though :)

Posted at
4 hours ago, Estarriol said:

Didn’t even bother watching that game. The other list was Poe Lowrick Jess, so it was pretty obvious which way it was going. Nice that it was basically my triple t-70 list switching Nunb for the Wookiee though :)

Jess/Poe + someone is almost everyone's Triple T-70 list! ;)

Posted at
2 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Diversity is...higher than ever? That top 8 only has 1 repeat pilot and the lists are completely different.

Not sure about ever, but diversity is certainly higher than earlier this year. Ah. Looking at those lists makes me feel happy. Hopefully things will stay this open for a bit longer.

Posted at
7 minutes ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Diversity is...higher than ever? That top 8 only has 1 repeat pilot and the lists are completely different.

Well two of my first three rounds were against Quickdraw and Omega Leader + 1 and the third was Quickdraw, Vader, Rho Squadron. All I am going to say to that is that reload action with Harpoon Missiles and being able to slam out of the fight was devastating. Eating 5 Harpoons from three ships without extra munitions after doing a good job of only allowing one missile to be fired during the alpha strike REALLY HURTS!!

Posted at
1 hour ago, TasteTheRainbow said:

Diversity is...higher than ever? That top 8 only has 1 repeat pilot and the lists are completely different.

I'm concerned that x4Azitucks are going to become the new meta list dominator. We'll see how things go.

Posted at
12 minutes ago, Koing907 said:

I'm concerned that x4Azitucks are going to become the new meta list dominator. We'll see how things go.

There was a whole lot of stuff at Austin which fired with primary arcs. Don't let it scare you too much.

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The thing I like about looking at the cut of that tournament is how few turrets there are. Unless you count Auzitucks and Lancers. But even if you do count them as turrets, it's less than has been the case.

Posted at
3 minutes ago, Incard said:

The thing I like about looking at the cut of that tournament is how few turrets there are. Unless you count Auzitucks and Lancers. But even if you do count them as turrets, it's less than has been the case.

Certainly less than the vassal league or all the nationals!

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X-Wing Regionals Linköping, Sweden

December 9th

62 Players

New waves not legal.

List Juggler: http://lists.starwarsclubhouse.com/get_tourney_details?tourney_id=3761

Youtube Stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuU7TuHd4Z0

Winner: Kristofer Bengtsson …98 points (3rd in swiss)

Darth Vader (Crack Shot, TIE/x1, Advanced Targeting Computer, Engine Upgrade, Cruise Missiles)

QuickDraw (Crack Shot, Spec Ops Training, FCS, Lightweight Frame, Harpoon Missiles)

Pure Sabacc (Adaptability, Adaptive Ailerons, Guidance Chips)

Runner-up: Archibald Zimony …100 points (8th in swiss)

Col. Vessery (Crack Shot, TIE/x7)

Glaive Sqd. Pilot (Crack Shot, TIE/x7)

Glaive Sqd. Pilot (Crack Shot, TIE/x7)

3rd: Mike Howard …100 points (5th in swiss - lost to runner-up)

Assaj Ventress (PtL, Lattz, Rigged Cargo, Black Market Slicer Tools, Countermeasures)

Ketsu Onyo (VI, Dengar, Inertial Dampeners, Glitterstim, Engine Upgrade, Shadow Caster)

4th: Danjel Lindén …99 points (7th in swiss - lost to winner)

OGP (Palpatine, Collision Detector)

Soontir Fell (PtL, Autothrusters, Royal Guard TIE, Stealth Device)

QuickDraw (Adaptability, FCS, Pattern Analyzer, Special Ops Training, Lightweight Frame)

5th: Jonas Remne …100 points (1st in swiss - lost to runner-up)

Captain Nym (VI, Bomblet, Guidance Chips, Harpoon Missiles, Autoblaster Turret)

Wedge (Adaptability, BB-8, Plasma Torpedoes, Guidance Chips)

Airen Cracken (VI, Harpoon Missiles, Guidance Chips)

6th: Christer Kostet …100 points (2nd in swiss - lost to #4)

Cpt. Yorr (Palpatine, Collision Detector)

Omega Leader (Juke, Comm Relay, Hull Upgrade)

QuickDraw (Expertise, FCS, Special Ops Training, Lightweight Frame, Sensor Cluster)

7th: Emil Nielsen …100 points (6th in swiss - lost to winner)

Dash (Lone Wolf, Outrider, HLC, Smuggling Compartments, Burnout SLAM, Countermeasures, Proton Rockets, Rey)

Miranda (TLT, Bomblet, C-3PO, Bomblet, LRS)

8th: Vincent Landberg-Wallin …xx points (4th in swiss - lost to #5)

Don't remember this list

Edited by Veldrin
Posted at
1 hour ago, Veldrin said:

Winner: Kristofer Bengtsson …98 point

I don‘t understand why he does not go to 99pt with two Harpoons and VI instead of crackshot. Can anyone explain?

Posted at
20 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:

I don‘t understand why he does not go to 99pt with two Harpoons and VI instead of crackshot. Can anyone explain?


I'll explain...

Cruise Missiles are better on Vader (subjectively, but hey I did win...). Especially if I can enter the fray not needing to use it and then have a nice 4-K set-up with the target lock already in place...

Cruise Missiles mess with he enemy's flying in a way Harpoons don't. Am I going fast with Vader to get the 5 dice attack or am I flying him more conservatively? With Harpoons there is no reason for them to try and stay far away.

Also, all my ships want to close to range 1 which means more than 1 Harpoon effect is bad as I will undoubtedly end up damaging my own ships. With only one Harpoon, that ship tends to die before I close to range 1 or I only close with QuickDraw which ends up with some amazing effects when you unload four dice at range one only to follow up with another shot as QuickDraw loses a shield due to his target having the harpooned condition when dying.

The possibility to do 10 damage before Sabacc shoots (QD Harpoons + Vader's Cruise and Crack on both can kill a Scurrg or K-Wing (guess which ones) and I still have a 4 or 5 dice attack coming from Sabacc) is very powerful.

The VI vs. Crack Shot argument is entirely a meta call. I tested both before the event and decided that Crack Shot helps versus more stuff but forces me to fly better versus higher PS stuff. Crack Shot ended up being the better choice in this specific event as I PS killed so many things with high Agility (Brobots, Defenders) due to the Crack Shot.

I have another Regional this coming weekend, perhaps VI is the way to go there (new stuff still not legal :( ), I'll have to do some thinking on this one.

Edited by Veldrin
Posted at
12 minutes ago, Veldrin said:

I'll explain...

Awesome, thank you very much! And congratulations on the win!

I flew a lot of Vader Qd Inq, which means I dearly miss FCS, LWF and EU.

But with advanced optics I will now probably go to a 38pt Vader and a 40pt QD, both VI, and Vader with Cruise. That is a bit harder to fly but you are spot on about the (dis)advantages. That leaves 22pt, and there are so many options to fill them now:

- Sabacc as you built him, for 4-5 dice flanks!

- Nu Sqd with a Harpoon and LRS, almost guaranteed 4 hits

- Scimitar with a Harpoon and LRS, almost guaranteed 4 hits

- go back to my previous build and replace Inq with Kestal or Major Vynder

Posted at
6 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

Awesome, thank you very much! And congratulations on the win!

I flew a lot of Vader Qd Inq, which means I dearly miss FCS, LWF and EU.

But with advanced optics I will now probably go to a 38pt Vader and a 40pt QD, both VI, and Vader with Cruise. That is a bit harder to fly but you are spot on about the (dis)advantages. That leaves 22pt, and there are so many options to fill them now:

- Sabacc as you built him, for 4-5 dice flanks!

- Nu Sqd with a Harpoon and LRS, almost guaranteed 4 hits

- Scimitar with a Harpoon and LRS, almost guaranteed 4 hits

- go back to my previous build and replace Inq with Kestal or Major Vynder

I would test the Nu version but the pilot skill advantage of Sabacccis hard to beat.