The Spellcraft specialization "Colleges of Magic" can be used while casting spells of a specific Colour?
The Invocation specialization "Each Deity" can be used while casting blessings of a specific God?
Skill Specialization
LukeZZ said:
The Spellcraft specialization "Colleges of Magic" can be used while casting spells of a specific Colour?
The Invocation specialization "Each Deity" can be used while casting blessings of a specific God?
Considering that according to the rules you can only have one order/deity I believe that specialization is unrelated to actual spell casting, but rather something you can use in other situations (like knowing something about spells).
Our group has ruled that it does apply to casting/invoking. So a Bright Wizard specializing in Bright spells wouldn't get to use it with cantrips, but with all his other spells. If he also had the Rank 1 spells specialization, he could get 2 fortune dice on any rank 1 Bright order spells. It makes sense that they would specialize on order first, then narrow the focus to the specific Rank. To offset this, we also agreed that my Scout could specialize in the weapon group Bow and then further specialize in Longbow. We further decided that it was possible to take specializations for a specific range and/or action card. So I can potentially specialize in Bows, Longbow, shooting at Long Range, and Rapid Fire, earning 4 Fortune dice when using that specific action at long range. I can't see spending the advancement points on all those specializations in lieu of something else, but as a means to use the specializations that you pick up as "free" specializations by way of the Dedication Bonus, it makes more sense that you would continue to narrow your focus rather than have to take a specialization in a different weapon group, one that you never use, when you train BS.
Aside from cantrips a bright wizard can't cast any other order spells, so it seems to me to be a little bit of a hobson's choice there.
In my view a bright wizard specialises in bright spells by virtue of being a bright wizard - if he specialised in another colleges spells, he wouldn't be a bright wizard, so the fact that he can cast them at all is a basic level of specialisation.
Having said that, a troll slayer is hardly going to specialise in whips....
I find specializing in a specific College of Magic for a wizard to be redundant.
In my opinion, the Bright Wizard should have to specialize in one particular area of the Bright spells, instead of just specializing in all of them. So I'd be looking at something like an Area of Effect specialization or Direct Damage specialization.
As far as specialization goes, I'm sticking to asking the player what he thinks the specialization applies to and limit it based on his answer. That way I leave it up to the player to determine the scope, and it allows me to rule based on their estimation.
Lexicanum said:
I find specializing in a specific College of Magic for a wizard to be redundant.
In my opinion, the Bright Wizard should have to specialize in one particular area of the Bright spells, instead of just specializing in all of them. So I'd be looking at something like an Area of Effect specialization or Direct Damage specialization.
As far as specialization goes, I'm sticking to asking the player what he thinks the specialization applies to and limit it based on his answer. That way I leave it up to the player to determine the scope, and it allows me to rule based on their estimation.
And for a Priest?
LukeZZ said:
And for a Priest?
Pretty much the same deal. I mean what's exactly a Specialization: Sigmar mean for a Priest of Sigmar? This is a person that has already devoted his life and purpose to Sigmar, how much more specialized can he get? It just reeks of munchkin to me.
Instead I'd focus on a character specializing on a particular stricture of their faith, for Piety. And for Invocation focus more on generalized miracle effects like support, attack, defense to try and cover the various miracle aspects.
But that's just really my feel for it.
If I ever allow wizard specialization for spells it will be on an individual spell level. The wizard can dedicate some time on a single spell, use an advancement and get a fortune die on that spell.
I agree that the specialization comes across as intended more for "knowledge" purposes and not an application of spellcasting. In that way, you might have a Bright Wizard who has specialized in "Grey College" so that he can better know the ins and outs of that College and its typical spells in order to know how to identify Grey College methods and their implications when he encounters them.
Would I allow a Wizard to specialize in his own College? I suppose so but it would only be representative of expanded knowledge of their College's typical patterns of "spell formulae" (for research purposes), history, lore and politics.
-----If I ever allow wizard specialization for spells it will be on an individual spell level. The wizard can dedicate some time on a single spell, use an advancement and get a fortune die on that spell.-----
I can see this as workable as well. While allowing specialization of a particular rank of spell as normal, I would allow further specialization of a particular spell, granting the Wizard at total of 2 Fortune dice when casting that spell.