Poe's super durable and can often survive to the endgame (if your opponent doesn't focus him down early), but he has some innate weaknesses. Firstly, he's an ATT3 gun that costs 40+ points. He's not going to do much of anything to your opponent's list, just like they won't do much to him. He is, in essence a "bank" for your squad points.

He gets pretty hard countered by anything with 4 attack dice, in particular Lone Wolf Dash, as he doesn't have the maneuverability to match.

Thweek (with an appropriate initiative bid) is pretty much his worst matchup, since he can stay behind Poe or outside his arc while getting TL modded shots indefinitely until he dies.

I like Poe with Predator for some offensive firepower.

2 hours ago, Astech said:

He gets pretty hard countered by anything with 4 attack dice, in particular Lone Wolf Dash, as he doesn't have the maneuverability to match.

Which works both ways. As I mentioned PTL+BB-8 Poe is hard counter to Lone Wolf Dash. I have recently played agains three different Dash players (2 included on Nationals) and most of the time I managed to stay within Range 1 of Dash, often even firing.

I admit that this build lacks the mentioned durability and is easier countered by other stuff.

1 hour ago, Stefan said:

I like Poe with Predator for some offensive firepower.

If you like him with Predator, give him a try with Lone Wolf - the positioning can be tricky, but especially in a two-ship squad (hello, Dash) you can wreak almost as much havoc offensively and get a defensive reroll into the bargain... for a point less, natch.

2 hours ago, Stefan said:

I like Poe with Predator for some offensive firepower.

Or a wingman with m9g8.

Can someone explain what's so intense about intensity/comm relay? Is there some mechanic I'm missing here? It works great once but then you have to spend a focus/evade to flip it back over, so it seems like it'd be difficult to use it more than once, maybe twice, in a game. Is it really worth having that extra evade token for the opening engagement?

I really like flying Poe with Pattern Analyzer, either BB-8 or R5-P9, and either PTL on PS 9 Poe or Vi on PS 9 Poe. So expensive!... but good.

1 minute ago, Dosiere said:

Can someone explain what's so intense about intensity/comm relay? Is there some mechanic I'm missing here? It works great once but then you have to spend a focus/evade to flip it back over, so it seems like it'd be difficult to use it more than once, maybe twice, in a game. Is it really worth having that extra evade token for the opening engagement?

I really like flying Poe with Pattern Analyzer, either BB-8 or R5-P9, and either PTL on PS 9 Poe or Vi on PS 9 Poe. So expensive!... but good.

Well, in a couple weeks Advanced Optics will make the build obsolete, but in the past it had its uses. Sure, it was good in the opening, but what R2-D2 Poe really wanted to do after the opening engagement was run off and recover his shields, arc-dodgig to do it. On those turns he can easily tap intensity again for that extra evade, so you're paying 3 points for 2-3 extra hull on an already super tanky ship.

The downside was the extreme - almost crippling - vulnerability to stress.

5 hours ago, Astech said:

Poe's super durable and can often survive to the endgame (if your opponent doesn't focus him down early), but he has some innate weaknesses. Firstly, he's an ATT3 gun that costs 40+ points. He's not going to do much of anything to your opponent's list, just like they won't do much to him. He is, in essence a "bank" for your squad points.

He gets pretty hard countered by anything with 4 attack dice, in particular Lone Wolf Dash, as he doesn't have the maneuverability to match.

Thweek (with an appropriate initiative bid) is pretty much his worst matchup, since he can stay behind Poe or outside his arc while getting TL modded shots indefinitely until he dies.

I know people have said it, but I have to reiterate in TLDR:

Poe DESTROYS LW Dash.

As much as I love LW Poe, I will have to pair him with Predator because if I am running a two ship it will be with LW Dash and if it's more than two ship I just don't want to be using LW. Luckily, Advanced Optics finally allows Poe to take the offensive EPTs he has always needed.

27 minutes ago, Skargoth said:

I know people have said it, but I have to reiterate in TLDR:

Poe DESTROYS LW Dash.

As much as I love LW Poe, I will have to pair him with Predator because if I am running a two ship it will be with LW Dash and if it's more than two ship I just don't want to be using LW. Luckily, Advanced Optics finally allows Poe to take the offensive EPTs he has always needed.

What if it's two ships that can basically act like one ship?

Also see the two-ship "I didn't auto-lose to Kylo" Rey/Poe!...?

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Lone Wolf (2)
R2-D2 (4)
Advanced Optics (2)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Rey (45)
Determination (1)
Finn (5)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Inertial Dampeners (1)
Smuggling Compartment (0)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

5 hours ago, Reiver said:

If you like him with Predator, give him a try with Lone Wolf - the positioning can be tricky, but especially in a two-ship squad (hello, Dash) you can wreak almost as much havoc offensively and get a defensive reroll into the bargain... for a point less, natch.

5 hours ago, Estarriol said:

Or a wingman with m9g8.

I fly Triple T70. Jess Pava has M9G8, gives a reroll to Snap w/BB8 and Black One, and then there's Poe. Everyone of them has a reroll that way, they're built to last and can dish out. Had success with that build.

Should I stick with this or go to an Intensity Poe? If I do I'll drop 2 PS and lose Pulse Ray Shield on Fenn Rau.

T-70 X-Wing: •Poe Dameron (41)
Autothrusters (2)
•Black One (1)
Veteran Instincts (1)
•R2-D2 (4)
Advanced Optics (2)

Sheathipede-class Shuttle: •Fenn Rau (24)
Pulsed Ray Shield (2)
Wired (1)
•"Chopper" (0)
R2 Astromech (1)

Auzituck Gunship: Wookie Liberator (35)
Targeting Computer (2)
Push the Limit (3)
•Jyn Erso (2)
•Jan Ors (2)

Total: 100/100

9 hours ago, Astech said:

since he can stay behind Poe or outside his arc while getting TL modded shots indefinitely until he dies.

If you are flying like a dumb dumb maybe.

5 hours ago, Dosiere said:

Can someone explain what's so intense about intensity/comm relay? Is there some mechanic I'm missing here? It works great once but then you have to spend a focus/evade to flip it back over, so it seems like it'd be difficult to use it more than once, maybe twice, in a game. Is it really worth having that extra evade token for the opening engagement?

Well if you are pairing this with the “plot armor” R2-D2 build, the banked evade is insurance for when you really need it.

Turn 1 dial a 1 straight and boost. Intensity an evade, bank it with Comm relay. Turn 2 another 1 straight take a focus, end of combat flip Intensity over.

Now you can regen on any green straight, take a boost for a focus and repeat until you and your opponent falls asleep.

The banked evade is used to prevent hull damage, but you can always take 1-2 shield damage and just run away and regen. His wingman needs to be a threat like Rey or Dash. If they chase Poe they get hurt, if they ignore Poe, you have a 45 point point fortress to carry into end game.

10 hours ago, Skargoth said:

I know people have said it, but I have to reiterate in TLDR:

Poe DESTROYS LW Dash.

As much as I love LW Poe, I will have to pair him with Predator because if I am running a two ship it will be with LW Dash and if it's more than two ship I just don't want to be using LW. Luckily, Advanced Optics finally allows Poe to take the offensive EPTs he has always needed.

If it's BB-8 Poe you're talking about, absolutely. Dash just isn't zippy enough without Kanan/PTL to get shots on Poe. R2-D2 Poe, on the other hand, lacks the in-asteroid field maneuverability to get shots nor avoid them, and he can be whittled down to nothing. BB-8 Poe also has a larger share of very bad matchups.

It makes me sad that Lone Wolf is unique, but since it's just about the most efficient upgrade in the game I guess it's fair. Advanced Optics is going to make Poe crazy-stupid strong, just in time for the System Opens.

Well, Advanced Optics is more or less the same as Com Relay but with a one point discount. The Poes at the Open events won’t be vastly different.

On 11/23/2017 at 10:20 PM, Zeoinx said:

The thing I hate about Poe is how he is portrayed in the movie. No real Backstory, no character growth, just instantly "One **** of a pilot..."

But you just compared Wedge over 3 movies to just a couple scenes with Poe in a single film.

Poe in those couple scenes is shown to be very kind to his droid, willing to work with and trust a stormtrooper that needs his help, and even goes so far as to give him a name since the system he was indoctrinated into didn't. In Episode IV you don't get half as much stuff with Wedge.

12 person tournament with Dash and Poe today. Poe only died once, in the final which I lost. What a guy!

Boo to R3A2 and TLTs! Advanced Optics might have saved it for me

1 hour ago, Estarriol said:

12 person tournament with Dash and Poe today. Poe only died once, in the final which I lost. What a guy!

Boo to R3A2 and TLTs! Advanced Optics might have saved it for me

Which Poe?

Bb8 Com Relay Intensity.

6 hours ago, Estarriol said:

Bb8 Com Relay Intensity.

Nice, no regen!

Nah, R2D2 is Luke’s droid

two of my games Poe was pretty much unscratched so I didn’t really miss it. Also, I like fluffy lists.

On 11/25/2017 at 2:09 AM, HammerGibbens said:

But you just compared Wedge over 3 movies to just a couple scenes with Poe in a single film.

Poe in those couple scenes is shown to be very kind to his droid, willing to work with and trust a stormtrooper that needs his help, and even goes so far as to give him a name since the system he was indoctrinated into didn't. In Episode IV you don't get half as much stuff with Wedge.

Over the entire OT you don’t get that much range (or screen time) from Wedge.

Wedge has an entire series of books to flesh out his character a bit (still a one note really).

18 hours ago, Estarriol said:

Bb8 Com Relay Intensity.

I like that version of Poetensity, but I’m wed to Primed Thrusters. I love T-rolls, K-turns, and flying through debris too much.

3 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

I like that version of Poetensity, but I’m wed to Primed Thrusters. I love T-rolls, K-turns, and flying through debris too much.

But it does let me have a target lock loc, focus and evade! I think part of why I love Poe is that there isn’t a right way to build him. PT would’ve helped in games 1 and 4 but I would’ve lost game 2. Advanced optics is the way, I Think.