Resistance Bomber & Sheathipede Unboxed (Spoilers)

By Stay On The Leader, in X-Wing

9 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

Was it ever not?

Hey, I use it quite effectively on the Upsilon.

I definitely see Poe using it a lot since he rarely spends his focus, but still needs to have one. So a persistent focus would be a great idea for him.

Beyond him, its action efficiency. If you spend a turn resetting and not actually getting engaged, you can bank the token for next turn. It lets you effectively gain the benefit of your previous turns action. Which is good because not every turn is, or needs to be, spent attacking.

I agree it wouldn't be broken at 1 point, nor would Comms Relay going down to 2 be broken either. But its still very usable at 2 points.

I think Kylo will get some good use out of it. It means he can spend more time boosting and barrel rolling.

Kylo Ren (47)
TIE Silencer (35), First Order Vanguard(2), Push the Limit (3), Advanced Sensors (3), Autothrusters (2), Advanced Optics(2)

Expensive, but he's a tough cookie. He can easily disengage for a turn to regain his focus token, then come back to engage with full mods before disengaging again.

Edited by BadMotivator
3 minutes ago, BlodVargarna said:

So Can Poetensity. But I guess advantage of this build is PS 11.

yes, that's the point. Poetensity can't against highPS alpha - this one can, for 4pts less

Just now, GreenDragoon said:

yes, that's the point. Poetensity can't against highPS alpha - this one can, for 4pts less

Same cost as BB8 Primed Thrusters Poetensity

Time to get a second punisher.

Why?

Trajectory on Redline with doubleseismics +EM paired with an adv sensors Deathrain (since he kinda doesnt gain anything from trajectory)

FEAR THE PUNISHERS MOFO!!
(Redline will have LRS and ordnances of choice, doubletargetlock powers combat lack of FCS)

23 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:

Designers addressed that in an interview.

Because Sabine is bonkers they would rather not give rebel ships crew slots than fix Sabine.

Sabine AND Hera

0-move forever, hurling bombs forever

Kylo Ren (TIE Silencer) — TIE Silencer 35
Push the Limit 3
Advanced Sensors 3
Advanced Optics 2
Autothrusters 2
First Order Vanguard 2
Ship Total: 47
Rho Squadron Veteran — Alpha-class Star Wing 21
Expertise 4
Advanced Proton Torpedoes 6
Ion Pulse Missiles 3
Advanced SLAM 2
Os-1 Arsenal Loadout 2
Ship Total: 38
"Night Beast" — TIE Fighter 15
Ship Total: 15

I will totally run this list.

Kylo Ren is a nasty ace, and for 15 points Night Beast is decent with having basically 2 actions a turn. Rho Squadron missile boat is a heavy hitting threat that has its butt covered by the other two ships. Advanced Optics simply gives you extra action economy turn to turn.

Edited by BadMotivator
15 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

Kylo Ren (47)
TIE Silencer (35), First Order Vanguard(2), Push the Limit (3), Advanced Sensors (3), Autothrusters (2), Advanced Optics(2)

Expensive, but he's a tough cookie. He can easily disengage for a turn to regain his focus token, then come back to engage with full mods before disengaging again.

I think Primed Thrusters is still better. You get to reposition out of a K-Turn (and before you move the next turn with Advanced Sensors!), which most true arc-dodgers can't do.

Possibly, I like both cards for the tech slot so I don't think there is a wrong way to go here.

Frankly, what I am probably most upset about is Deflective Plating. An Anti-bomb upgrade that only the flying Guppy can use... They should have made that a general mod and deleted the "friendly bomb" part of it and just made it bombs.

With just one in the pack they'd have sold a lot more Bombers!

1 hour ago, BadMotivator said:

Frankly, what I am probably most upset about is Deflective Plating. An Anti-bomb upgrade that only the flying Guppy can use... They should have made that a general mod and deleted the "friendly bomb" part of it and just made it bombs.

It is very weird that Ordnance Silos and Deflective Plating are B-17 only.

10 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

It is very weird that Ordnance Silos and Deflective Plating are B-17 only.

why?

the ship is absolute garbage at a base level, it needs unique gimmicks to make it even halfway worth considering over just about anything else

a lesson they no doubt learned from the punisher

Edited by ficklegreendice

Anyone else notice how Cobalt leader almost forces you to use action bombs, but most of the pack is centered around not using action bombs?

Sigh....

Edit: Rebel Nym solves this problem. nevermind!

...This thing.

This thing looks like

FUN.

Just now, ficklegreendice said:

why?

the ship is absolute garbage at a base level, it needs unique gimmicks to make it even halfway worth considering over just about anything else

Because the other ships who could leverage Ordnance Silos could really use the help. Deflective Plating is a mediocre generic upgrade that nobody would probably take anyways, so why restrict it?

2 minutes ago, HolySorcerer said:

Because the other ships who could leverage Ordnance Silos could really use the help. Deflective Plating is a mediocre generic upgrade that nobody would probably take anyways, so why restrict it?

I don't think miranda or nym need any help

and Defective Plating would only serve as a specific counter-upgrade on any ship without bombs, and specific counter-upgrades are just bad game design unless there's a side deck involved or some way to re-purpose the upgrade (such as the discard-to-reroll mechanic in Destiny)

though I personally think side-decks are dumb and believe Destiny has the right way of things. Regardless, X-wing has neither outside that 0-point scum crew what swaps illicits

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6 hours ago, kris40k said:

Some nice cards in there, but really, this just reinforces that Disney needs to work more with FFG to get some character names out before the movie. The TFA Core Set, TIE/fo, T-70 pack and now this thing is just bereft of creative names and its disappointing. Its a fluffy, cosmetic thing, but a little more polish wouldn't have hurt. <_<

Really surprised Adv Optics was only 2 pts.

The "random colour" or "random greek letter" novice/ace/leader is annoying, correct. I'd rather have FFG wait with releases and instead come with nice names and correct ships and pilots (Poe, K-2SO, TIE striker, U-wing gunner...etc..) , but of course FFG wants to make most money by releasing parallel to movie starts.

However, with a caveat of not having watched the video, and thus not knowing where the content comes from, these kinds of stupid LEAKs before sale starts are highly likely to prevent Disney from ever sharing any valuable plot info with FFG.

2 minutes ago, Managarmr said:

The "random colour" or "random greek letter" novice/ace/leader is annoying, correct. I'd rather have FFG wait with releases and instead come with nice names and correct ships and pilots (Poe, K-2SO, TIE striker, U-wing gunner...etc..) , but of course FFG wants to make most money by releasing parallel to movie starts.

However, with a caveat of not having watched the video, and thus not knowing where the content comes from, these kinds of stupid LEAKs before sale starts are highly likely to prevent Disney from ever sharing any valuable plot info with FFG.

eh, given the trailers and spotlights, there don't seem to be any characters with any actual screentime flying a Bomber. Meanwhjle, the Silencer seems to be unique to kylo like the advance was unique to vader. In these cases, random callsigns are the only way to go

we do have Rose flying a T-70 A-wing though

Edited by ficklegreendice
1 minute ago, ficklegreendice said:

I don't think miranda or nym need any help

and Defective Plating would only serve as a specific counter-upgrade on any ship without bombs, and specific counter-upgrades are just bad game design unless there's a side deck involved or some way to re-purpose the upgrade (such as the discard-to-reroll mechanic in Destiny)

though I personally think side-decks are dumb and believe Destiny has the right way of things. Regardless, X-wing has neither outside that 0-point scum crew what swaps illicits

Miranda and Nym aren't going to want to give up Bomblets for the silo. That said, you're probably right, I would rather have them be too cautious and leave the Firespray and Punisher to rot than give rebel/scum any more toys to abuse.

Just now, HolySorcerer said:

Miranda and Nym aren't going to want to give up Bomblets for the silo. That said, you're probably right, I would rather have them be too cautious and leave the Firespray and Punisher to rot than give rebel/scum any more toys to abuse.

Nym is because "Genius" won't work with bombletts as well anymore, especially Scum nym

2 minutes ago, ficklegreendice said:

eh, given the trailers and spotlights, there don't seem to be any characters with any actual screentime flying a Bomber. Meanwhjle, the Silencer seems to be unique to kylo like the advance was unique to vader. In these cases, random callsigns are the only way to go

we do have Rose flying a T-70 A-wing though

Wait, flying a T-70 or an RZ-2?

Just now, ficklegreendice said:

Nym is because "Genius" won't work with bombletts as well anymore, especially Scum nym

EM Bomblets still provides enough value where running Genius works.

I sure hope the Silencer impresses, because first look was very disappointing.

4 minutes ago, Captain Lackwit said:

Wait, flying a T-70 or an RZ-2?

whatever the **** you call the A-wing

can't be assed to remember the preamble when it's basically the same ship

7 hours ago, ficklegreendice said:

drop-on-reveal bombs won't be around to provide any benefit when the dice start flying, unless you also have rebel nym

ACTION bombs are going to suck on these things because they don't have anything to assist them with dropping them, plus they're fat-*** large bases that are four times as likely to overlap ships/obstacles and therefore lose their action. It also only benefits a ship with a ****, barely modified 2-dice PWT

I love -agility, but this thing sucks

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