I've been talking about this idea for months, but only when @GILLIES291 posts about it people take it seriously.

I'm not really interested in Clone War stuff. If they weren't making a movie every year, with an animated series, and plans for a new TV show and Trilogy in the works THEN I'd be interested in Clone War stuff.

I don't hate the Clone Wars era, but I'm more interested in the new stuff.

20 minutes ago, Joe Censored said:

Disney won't sign off on a Clone Wars era themed game. They want people to forget about that dark time in Star Wars history, not build it up.

Dave Filoni says, "What?"

Seriously, I don't think they would come out with a dedicated Clone Wars era game myself, but the idea that Disney has been actively avoiding that era is ridiculous. Filoni's work with Rebels, which Disney is enthusiastically behind, is all about bringing the elements of the Clone Wars era and the Galactic Civil War era together, strengthening the relevance of the CW era in the overall canon. As I pointed out elsewhere recently, FFG has not been shying away about using CW era characters for new content for their games, which would have to be approved by the Mouse. If Disney did want the CW era to quietly drift away, there would be no new content for it, instead of creating new cartoon episodes staring Senator Padme and Padawan Ahsoka Tano in Star Wars Forces of Destiny, resulting in their introduction into a new generation of younglings.

Yes, their emphasis is on the new movies, being the new trilogies in the works and the one-offs, because they are new and the best merchandising flagships and they want to push hardest there, but this idea that Disney has somehow been attempting to sweep the Clone Wars under the rug is flat out ridiculous and not based in the reality of the actions that they are taking.

23 hours ago, markcsoul said:

For droids they could all be generics for something different. But they could still have varying PS values. Higher PS for "vets" who have survived multiple combat missions and have better adapted to dogfighting. Low PS for ones fresh into combat.

Aren't all the droids controlled by a control ship, in a sort of "hive mind" arrangement? Why wouldn't the master control ship apply what one droid learned to all the other droids? In fact, it could do that whether the individual droid survived or not.

5 minutes ago, kris40k said:

Dave Filoni says, "What?"

Seriously, I don't think they would come out with a dedicated Clone Wars era game myself, but the idea that Disney has been actively avoiding it is ridiculous. Filoni's work with Rebels, which Disney is enthusiastically behind, is all about bringing the elements of the Clone Wars era and the Galactic Civil War era together, strengthening the relevance of the CW era in the overall canon. As I pointed out elsewhere recently, FFG has not been shying away about using CW era characters for new content for their games, which would have to be approved by the Mouse. If Disney did want the CW era to quietly drift away, there would be no new content for it, instead of creating new cartoon episodes staring Senator Padme and Padawan Ahsoka Tano in Star Wars Forces of Destiny, resulting in their introduction into a new generation of younglings.

Yes, their emphasis is on the new movies, being the new Trilogies in the works and the on-offs, because they are new and the best merchandising flagships and they want to push hardest there, but this idea that Disney has somehow been attempting to sweep the Clone Wars under the rug is flat out ridiculous and not based in the reality of the actions that they are taking.

The tie ins in Rebels are all about the Clone Wars cartoon being the predecessor to the Rebels cartoon. Since Rebels is ending, and rather abruptly to make room for their next project (as it seems they could have milked Rebels for a couple more seasons if they chose to), I would fully expect all these tie ins with the Cone Wars cartoon series to come to an end as well. Any new X Wing 2.0 being developed would have this reality in mind, and would be looking at what the Star Wars landscape will look like a year or two down the road, rather than a year or two behind.

25 minutes ago, Joe Censored said:

Disney won't sign off on a Clone Wars era themed game. They want people to forget about that dark time in Star Wars history, not build it up.

Disney spent $4 billion to acquire the IP and they will make money off of it in any way possible.

Right now, spinning off the OT is just the hottest poker in the fire.

23 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:

I've been talking about this idea for months, but only when @GILLIES291 posts about it people take it seriously.

Eh, sometimes it's just timing. Your on my short list of "good idea guys," don't worry.

10 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Aren't all the droids controlled by a control ship, in a sort of "hive mind" arrangement? Why wouldn't the master control ship apply what one droid learned to all the other droids? In fact, it could do that whether the individual droid survived or not.

While droids were controlled by a central ship in The Phantom Menace, it doesn't appear that there is a shared hive mind. Orders are often relayed by voice communications, and droids have carried on conversations with each other showing distinct memories of events, "Ever killed a Jedi?" "Me neither", or "Jedi! Fire!", "No wait! ... I knew that was a bad idea."

14 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Aren't all the droids controlled by a control ship, in a sort of "hive mind" arrangement? Why wouldn't the master control ship apply what one droid learned to all the other droids? In fact, it could do that whether the individual droid survived or not.

They used to be, like in TPM. But by the time of the clone wars they were on their own.

From starwars.com:

...vulture droids were, for a time, controlled by a central command ship, but later generations were granted a limited degree of independence.

45 minutes ago, Joe Censored said:

The tie ins in Rebels are all about the Clone Wars cartoon being the predecessor to the Rebels cartoon. Since Rebels is ending, and rather abruptly to make room for their next project (as it seems they could have milked Rebels for a couple more seasons if they chose to), I would fully expect all these tie ins with the Cone Wars cartoon series to come to an end as well. Any new X Wing 2.0 being developed would have this reality in mind, and would be looking at what the Star Wars landscape will look like a year or two down the road, rather than a year or two behind.

Again, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there will be ton of CW era content showing up in X-Wing TMG anytime soon (I do not expect that), but....

Being that new Forces of Destiny episodes were released just last month, and news has been released that the comic book series is coming out in Jan. 2018 and more video episodes are set to be released in 2018, I think there is evidence that Disney is not turning a blind eye to the CW era as we will be seeing more of Padme and young Ahsoka. Interest in these characters inevitably leads new young fans into the existing material of the Clone Wars and the Prequel Movies. So no, the tie ins to the Clone Wars cartoon is not ending.

Now, I do not expect there to be a new trilogy of movies coming out in that era, but I would not be surprised if the proposed Obi-Wan movie dips its toes in the era with some more info about Obi-Wan as a padawan and knight while focusing on what happened between RotS and ANH.

I simply want to help put an end to this idea that I hear repeated that Disney is somehow avoiding the Clone War era when again and again, new content is being produced.

48 minutes ago, kris40k said:

While droids were controlled by a central ship in The Phantom Menace, it doesn't appear that there is a shared hive mind. Orders are often relayed by voice communications, and droids have carried on conversations with each other showing distinct memories of events, "Ever killed a Jedi?" "Me neither", or "Jedi! Fire!", "No wait! ... I knew that was a bad idea."

Yeah, that was one thing that absolutely killed TPM for me. So, the computer has to send a signal down to a droid, cause it to speak, have a nearby droid listen, and then send receive the signal from the second droid just to communicate between two different parts of its brain? Trade Federation really needs to hire a new engineering department.

(And don't even get me started on, "We have hundreds of capital ships blockading this planet, but we're certainly not going to divide up our control system, or even have redundancy in case anything should go wrong!" Though in fairness, I could easily see the engineers pushing for that but the program manager vetoing it because it would add a couple percent to the overall cost, or something.)

1 hour ago, kris40k said:

While droids were controlled by a central ship in The Phantom Menace, it doesn't appear that there is a shared hive mind. Orders are often relayed by voice communications, and droids have carried on conversations with each other showing distinct memories of events, "Ever killed a Jedi?" "Me neither", or "Jedi! Fire!", "No wait! ... I knew that was a bad idea."

My understanding is that they were powered from the "control" ship (thus having no internal battery like R2 and 3PO), and received orders from central command like any other military unit.

20 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Yeah, that was one thing that absolutely killed TPM for me. So, the computer has to send a signal down to a droid, cause it to speak, have a nearby droid listen, and then send receive the signal from the second droid just to communicate between two different parts of its brain? Trade Federation really needs to hire a new engineering department.

(And don't even get me started on, "We have hundreds of capital ships blockading this planet, but we're certainly not going to divide up our control system, or even have redundancy in case anything should go wrong!" Though in fairness, I could easily see the engineers pushing for that but the program manager vetoing it because it would add a couple percent to the overall cost, or something.)

And we are going to put the key elements to that non-redundant system in a hangar bay.

1 hour ago, Joe Censored said:

The tie ins in Rebels are all about the Clone Wars cartoon being the predecessor to the Rebels cartoon. Since Rebels is ending, and rather abruptly to make room for their next project (as it seems they could have milked Rebels for a couple more seasons if they chose to), I would fully expect all these tie ins with the Cone Wars cartoon series to come to an end as well. Any new X Wing 2.0 being developed would have this reality in mind, and would be looking at what the Star Wars landscape will look like a year or two down the road, rather than a year or two behind.

There are also multiple comics (Obi-Wan & Anakin, Mace Windu, Maul, Naboo fighters in Shattered Empire etc.), and books, not to mention Battlefront 2.

On 11/19/2017 at 11:11 PM, Force Majeure said:

I have to say I'm genuinely surprised at the level of disgust and vitriol that is still held against anything prequel related.

Prequel generation kids are going to be calling the shots relatively soon and then they will be the ones doing the bulk of the buying these games and will be trying to get back that old Star Wars feeling they grew up with. So I feel that a prequel focused game is inevitable.

The prequel content (for lack of a better term) is valid stuff and is just as dumb and amazing, cool and stupid as the Original Trilogy. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

I’m a prequel generation kid. I deplore the idea of prequel factions in this game.

Not all of the younger generation is blind to the gigantic drop in quality between the two trilogies.

And I want to make it clear I WANT to like the prequels. I want them to be as much of Star Wars as the next film.

Yet I still strongly feel the game is better off sticking to what it is doing now. Reaching out to the prequels to the extent of including them as factions could very well be disastrous.

14 minutes ago, Kdubb said:

I’m a prequel generation kid. I deplore the idea of prequel factions in this game.

Not all of the younger generation is blind to the gigantic drop in quality between the two trilogies.

And I want to make it clear I WANT to like the prequels. I want them to be as much of Star Wars as the next film.

Yet I still strongly feel the game is better off sticking to what it is doing now. Reaching out to the prequels to the extent of including them as factions could very well be disastrous.

As much as I would like Clone Wars in the game (and, I have to admit, it is boosted by the fact that I am watching the Disney Channel Clone Wars cartoons for the very first time just now), I guess I have to say that you might be right. Everything is based on the OT right now, including the current trilogy of films in the works.

The only thing I would say, is that if FFG continues to use the current model of pushing CW designs into the GCW, it needs to be done evenly for all factions. If Rebels get the ARC and N1, then the Imperials should get V-Wings and a Sith Infiltrator, and S&V gets their stuff. I think it would be unfair to favor one faction as the "used to be in the Clone Wars" faction.

Maybe someday, many moons from now, FFG might get around to making CiS and Republic actual factions, and introduce the Jedi and Sith into the game as Force powers.

2 hours ago, BlodVargarna said:

2 hours ago, kris40k said:

Dave Filoni says, "What?"

Seriously, I don't think they would come out with a dedicated Clone Wars era game myself, but the idea that Disney has been actively avoiding that era is ridiculous. Filoni's work with Rebels, which Disney is enthusiastically behind, is all about bringing the elements of the Clone Wars era and the Galactic Civil War era together, strengthening the relevance of the CW era in the overall canon. As I pointed out elsewhere recently, FFG has not been shying away about using CW era characters for new content for their games, which would have to be approved by the Mouse. If Disney did want the CW era to quietly drift away, there would be no new content for it, instead of creating new cartoon episodes staring Senator Padme and Padawan Ahsoka Tano in Star Wars Forces of Destiny, resulting in their introduction into a new generation of younglings.

Yes, their emphasis is on the new movies, being the new trilogies in the works and the one-offs, because they are new and the best merchandising flagships and they want to push hardest there, but this idea that Disney has somehow been attempting to sweep the Clone Wars under the rug is flat out ridiculous and not based in the reality of the actions that they are taking.

Thank you for being a genuine voice of reason, Kris.

1 hour ago, kris40k said:

Again, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there will be ton of CW era content showing up in X-Wing TMG anytime soon (I do not expect that), but....

Being that new Forces of Destiny episodes were released just last month, and news has been released that the comic book series is coming out in Jan. 2018 and more video episodes are set to be released in 2018, I think there is evidence that Disney is not turning a blind eye to the CW era as we will be seeing more of Padme and young Ahsoka. Interest in these characters inevitably leads new young fans into the existing material of the Clone Wars and the Prequel Movies. So no, the tie ins to the Clone Wars cartoon is not ending.

Now, I do not expect there to be a new trilogy of movies coming out in that era, but I would not be surprised if the proposed Obi-Wan movie dips its toes in the era with some more info about Obi-Wan as a padawan and knight while focusing on what happened between RotS and ANH.

I simply want to help put an end to this idea that I hear repeated that Disney is somehow avoiding the Clone War era when again and again, new content is being produced.

I think a lot of it is simply the fact that they wanted to tell this new (sort of) story, and are focusing a lot on that. They'll get back to the Clone Wars eventually; they just want to focus on the newest stuff before fleshing out more of the older stuff.

I really don't like what Disney did to Clone Wars - when they took over the universe, they left Seasons 6 and 7 canon but didn't let Season 7 finish getting animated or air, and there's nowhere to find a DVD of the things now. After Rebels ends, I want them to go back and do justice to Clone Wars Seasons 6 and 7.

And the prequels were garbage, but Clone Wars was fantastic. I would totally buy a Clone Wars themed game.

1 minute ago, Kieransi said:

I really don't like what Disney did to Clone Wars - when they took over the universe, they left Seasons 6 and 7 canon but didn't let Season 7 finish getting animated or air, and there's nowhere to find a DVD of the things now. After Rebels ends, I want them to go back and do justice to Clone Wars Seasons 6 and 7.

And the prequels were garbage, but Clone Wars was fantastic. I would totally buy a Clone Wars themed game.

Clone Wars managed to make Anakin somewhat likeable, and the Battle Droids' antics somewhat comical! I agree that the series was much better done than the prequel trilogy.

3 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Clone Wars managed to make Anakin somewhat likeable, and the Battle Droids' antics somewhat comical! I agree that the series was much better done than the prequel trilogy.

Agreed. Too bad Clone Wars Anakin couldn't be used in a Lucas Update to replace prequels Anakin. And too bad Kenobi couldn't win a single battle in the entire series...

9 hours ago, Hobojebus said:

I do that to fish for grammer nazis , its been a thing I do for four years now on these very forums dude.

Do you skin them and grill them too? I hear with the right seasoning they arnt bad.

2 hours ago, Zeoinx said:

Do you skin them and grill them too? I hear with the right seasoning they arnt bad.

No I digitize them and make them play games in an arena, it sounds cooler and more interesting than it is.

I highly doubt Disney is going back to the prequel era

What they've been doing is integrating wasted potential, all the cool designs from the movies and the gone-before-its-time CW cartoon, into the original trilogy timeline. After all, when you've bought into such a vastly popular franchise, there's no reason to waste such neat stuff

Even in battlefront 2, the prequel era battles are just scenarios that showcase the cool vehicle designs (such as the immaculate ARC). There are also a few n1s flying around in the OT timeline in the campaign

There's really no reason to revisit the prequel era unless the Clone Wars pulls a Samurai Jack on us (a man can dream). Everything else of worth, namely how cool things looked, is already accounted for

And so, if Xwing were to follow suit, it'd really be better off rolling prequel ships into existing factions. Anyone who has only seen the movies are going to have a **** of a time giving a goddamn about the CIS or republic as standalones

On 11/19/2017 at 7:24 PM, markcsoul said:

I just want to get more clone war era ships in the game one way or another.

I WOULD prefer it if they got their own factions. As much as I love having the ships in the game, it's not as fun when they aren't with the pilots that used them.

I also think having 5 factions would be fun. Could even do 7 eventually if resistance and first order start getting more ships to use. Scum could be the only "multi-era" faction so to speak. The current 3 factions are all getting a bit bloated now. It's nice having choices of course, but I think we might be at the point now where I'm not even sure you could field one of every ship in a faction for a 300 point epic game.

Well with the subfactions I have tried to make a alt format where there is 4 hybrid factions with the 3 primary factions, but the NT factions still do not have enough ships to really be their own. Heck scum started out with 6 ships and both 1st Order and Resistance put together don't have that many ships yet. Also back then the other factions only has 3 more ships.