4 hours ago, Jimbawa said:

I'm not particularly a fan of the ruling, but it does seem like it's valid. They are doing precisely what the card says.

If you have strong evidence why any part of that wouldn't work and why we should overturn that ruling, I will gladly take it up with my TO again and watch deadeye fade into the background.

I disagree that this is 'doing precisely what the card says'

The 2nd part specifically says 'when an attack instructs you to spend a target lock'. The only time this comes up is with missiles/torps that require you to spend the lock to fire. That's the only time.

Just having a target lock is not 'instructing you to spend it' when making a primary weapon attack (or any secondary weapon attack that doesn't require spending the lock to fire), so the 2nd part of deadeye does not apply to choosing to spend a lock to re-roll dice on any attack.

Targeting Synch did not allow re-rolling attack dice by spending the ship with this upgrade's target lock UNTIL it was updated in the FAQ (because the way its worded does NOT allow such a thing neither). If Deadeye got a similar treatment in the FAQ, then I would change my tune. But it hasn't. So for that reason, using deadeye to re-roll attack dice just because you have a focus token is adding an overly generous interpretation to the second part of the deadeye text that just isn't written there as it stands now...

5 minutes ago, blade_mercurial said:

I disagree that this is 'doing precisely what the card says'

The 2nd part specifically says 'when an attack instructs you to spend a target lock'. The only time this comes up is with missiles/torps that require you to spend the lock to fire. That's the only time.

Just having a target lock is not 'instructing you to spend it' when making a primary weapon attack (or any secondary weapon attack that doesn't require spending the lock to fire), so the 2nd part of deadeye does not apply to choosing to spend a lock to re-roll dice on any attack.

Targeting Synch did not allow re-rolling attack dice by spending the ship with this upgrade's target lock UNTIL it was updated in the FAQ (because the way its worded does NOT allow such a thing neither). If Deadeye got a similar treatment in the FAQ, then I would change my tune. But it hasn't. So for that reason, using deadeye to re-roll attack dice just because you have a focus token is adding an overly generous interpretation to the second part of the deadeye text that just isn't written there as it stands now...

The attack is not instructing you to spend the target lock for anything for the ordnance. It's an effect created by the upgrade card, specifically a cost requirement. But still, an effect in the same vein and categorized identically as spending a target lock to modify dice, which is directly taken from the FAQ as instruction to spend a target lock, and is only one of many times when you are instructed to spend a target lock for any number of effects. So deadeye shouldn't allow for one but not the other. Since that is called out specifically in the FAQ, we don't really have a good reason to refute it.

While unrelated, the targeting sync FAQ was not a change but a clarification, so really it always should have operated that way.

"When an attack instructs you to spend a target lock, you may spend a focus token instead"

A primary weapon attack does not instruct you to spend a target lock in order to make the attack. It is only during dice modification that a target lock token may be spent to re-roll dice. They are taking only a focus token with them to the modify dice step if they did not need to spend it on performing the attack (even for things like cruise missiles). And at that point the only valid thing to do with it is modify your dice as a normal focus token does. Deadeye does not grant you the power to use it to re-roll in that step as dice modification. It is only used as another way to allow you to perform an attack that normally requires a target lock.

1 hour ago, Skeether said:

"When an attack instructs you to spend a target lock, you may spend a focus token instead"

A primary weapon attack does not instruct you to spend a target lock in order to make the attack. It is only during dice modification that a target lock token may be spent to re-roll dice. They are taking only a focus token with them to the modify dice step if they did not need to spend it on performing the attack (even for things like cruise missiles). And at that point the only valid thing to do with it is modify your dice as a normal focus token does. Deadeye does not grant you the power to use it to re-roll in that step as dice modification. It is only used as another way to allow you to perform an attack that normally requires a target lock.

But when you roll attack dice and want to reroll, you are instructed by the attack to spend a target lock. You are not instructed to spend a token to perform a primary attack, but deadeye doesn't specify that it can only be spent as such. I'm all for your interpretation, but I need something written down that I can present as evidence.

When performing an attack, after rolling dice, if you want to reroll those dice then you are instructed by the rules of performing an attack to spend that target lock. It does not matter that doing so is optional, as once you have chosen that path you do come across the instruction to do so. That is the same instruction used to validate targeting sync to work with primary attacks. I think that is probably the part that can be deconstructed to disallow deadeye, but so far I haven't been able to find it.