So after you execute a maneuver, does FA astro give you the ability to check if anyone is in your arc? If so, that is some VERY helpful intel when deciding what to do for your actions.

You do need to check if you meet the conditions, so yes.

21 minutes ago, DR4CO said:

You do need to check if you meet the conditions, so yes.

Sweeeet. I just wanted to double-check that.

I love FA astro lol

Check arc AND range

Is there an official timing to this? For example, do I say “I’d like to trigger FAA”, measure arc and range, then choose if you want to boost or barrel roll and direction?

Or would I say “I’d like to barrel roll left with FAA” and then measure arc and range?

The first seems much more abusable, but the wording on the card is an “if, then may”, rather than “you may if”.

1 hour ago, AEIllingworth said:

Is there an official timing to this? For example, do I say “I’d like to trigger FAA”, measure arc and range, then choose if you want to boost or barrel roll and direction?

Or would I say “I’d like to barrel roll left with FAA” and then measure arc and range?

The first seems much more abusable, but the wording on the card is an “if, then may”, rather than “you may if”.

The way I've been using it, along with anyone else who's used it in our playgroup, is that after you execute a maneuver you check to see if FAA can be triggered, and, if it can, then you get to pick if/how you want to boost/barrel roll.

3 hours ago, Innese said:

The way I've been using it, along with anyone else who's used it in our playgroup, is that after you execute a maneuver you check to see if FAA can be triggered, and, if it can, then you get to pick if/how you want to boost/barrel roll.

If it would be in line with taking a Target Lock you should declare that you are trying to activate FAA with a defined boost/barrel roll and then check if you meet the requirements. If FAA triggers, but you can't make the declared boost/barrel roll you can opt to try another boost or barrel roll or not use FAA.

4 hours ago, Ausir said:

If it would be in line with taking a Target Lock you should declare that you are trying to activate FAA with a defined boost/barrel roll and then check if you meet the requirements. If FAA triggers, but you can't make the declared boost/barrel roll you can opt to try another boost or barrel roll or not use FAA.

No it is in line with K4 Security Droid... It is not because you have made a green move that you have to take a Target Lock... You validate the trigger then you may do something if the condition are met. The Target Lock action is not worded with a may, you measure and take the lock if valid.

Given that he has an arc and range limitation, yes you have to measure it to see if he goes off. Annoying but legal when people who are RIGHT in your face measure for FAA to see if they roll out of your arc with their normal action they'll still have a shot at the guy in the extreme distance they really want to fight.

Is this one of those things where if you check to see if FAA can trigger, you HAVE to perform the boost/barrel roll?

16 minutes ago, jwilliamson12 said:

Is this one of those things where if you check to see if FAA can trigger, you HAVE to perform the boost/barrel roll?

"After you execute a maneuver, if you did not overlap a ship or obstacle and there are no enemy ships inside your firing arc at Range 1-3, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action ." So no. You can check to see if FAA can trigger and then, if it does, you may (or may not) perform a free boost/barrel roll action.

16 hours ago, ZealuxMyr said:

"After you execute a maneuver, if you did not overlap a ship or obstacle and there are no enemy ships inside your firing arc at Range 1-3, you may perform a free boost or barrel roll action ." So no. You can check to see if FAA can trigger and then, if it does, you may (or may not) perform a free boost/barrel roll action.

I disagree with this. There's not an official ruling so this is just my take, but is seems to me that for the usual way this stuff works, you have to decide if you want to use the ability before checking restrictions. You execute a maneuver and then at that point you would need to declare whether or not you wish to trigger FAA. If no then just move on. If Yes, THEN you measure to see if you can and you MUST boost or barrel roll if no one is in arc. I would say though you don't need to declare which action or direction until after the restriction measurement is made.

18 minutes ago, sharrrp said:

I would say though you don't need to declare which action or direction until after the restriction measurement is made.

It is funny how you just arbitrarily decide that some part must be decided before and some after without any reference... If it must be decided before then all of it must be decided before.

1 hour ago, muribundi said:

It is funny how you just arbitrarily decide that some part must be decided before and some after without any reference... If it must be decided before then all of it must be decided before.

It's not arbitrary I just didn't spell it out. You say you want to activate the trigger, you can only do so if the restriction is met, so you check the restriction, then you resolve the trigger which is when you decide what boost or BR you use.

I will grant that if it were to be ruled that you must declare you want to use the trigger and which specific action BOTH before measuring that would at least be reasonable. It's definitely a gray area. I just don't think that's what the ruling would actually be. I can't think of any other ability off the top of my head that would produce quite the same set of circumstances to use as a precedent. If there was this question probably would have come up before but maybe there's one out there.

Either way I definitely don't think you can measure and then NOT trigger FAA. It's a binary can/can't do the thing same as TL, Kylo Crew, etc. Checking to see if you can means you're exercising the "may" option in the positive. If your measurement fails you back up but if it doesn't you're already committed to seeing it through.

It's really different from Kylo or TL, though. This isn't an action you're choosing to perform, it's a trigger to determine if you can perform a free action.

And the word " MAY " is right there.

It's right there.

1 hour ago, sharrrp said:

Either way I definitely don't think you can measure and then NOT trigger FAA.

Once I have met the measurement requirements I may perform a free boost or barrel roll action. I am choosing not to, which is allowed under the game usage of "may."

In order for the card to work the way you want it to it would have to say: "After you execute a maneuver, if you did not overlap a ship or obstacle, you may check to see if there are no enemy ships inside your firing arc at Range 1-3. If there are no enemy ships you MUST perform a free boost or barrel roll action."

Doesnt matter if you think you can measure and not trigger or not.

He triggers after every maneuver, the trigger part of him is not an option but the result if the trigger is passed is an option. Whether you check for him or not, he went off - you just "forgot to check" because you didnt plan to use him or it was obvious because someone is right in your face.

1) You perform a maneuever
2) FAA goes "You did a maneuver? Cool, let me check something"
3) FAA measures R1-3 in arc and determines if there are enemies
4.1) FAA is satisfied there are no enemies, you may now perform a free boost/barrelroll.
or
4.2) FAA is not satisfied, theres an enemy in arc R1-3, no free action.

Up until 4.1/4.2, there is no option for FAA. he doesnt say "After you perform a maneuver you may check if there are enemies R1-3 in arc " he just flatout says if they dont exist as part of his automatic trigger.

Which is a completely moot discussion anyway because guess what, if he did say you MUST perform a boost/roll, people would still use him to check ranges prior to the action step and go "Oh i cant use him someone is poking into R3 in my arc" and the inverse would be a massively NEGATIVE thing "I just turned away, nobody in arc. Hmm, i cant barrelroll because of rocks/ships to my side and while i can boost it'll put me in a very bad spot" - hence, may rather than must

Has it been determined how Flihgt Assist Astro interacts with the Phantom II and its rear arc? Do you need to have no enemies in both or just one for it to work?

55 minutes ago, DarthMuz said:

Has it been determined how Flihgt Assist Astro interacts with the Phantom II and its rear arc? Do you need to have no enemies in both or just one for it to work?

With Flight Assist Astro, an arc is an arc. This means that for the Phantom II (And the ARC-170) that both arcs need to be clear of enemies, otherwise there is still an enemy in your arc, preventing the continued activation of FAA.

How about Flight Assist Astromech and Stress?

If my ship is stressed already, then I move, meaning I won't be able to take a free action even if the trigger for FAA is true, can I still check for arc/range?

I would say no personally but it's by no means clear cut.

technically yes because the trigger still happens considering it doesnt have a not-stressed clause. What if you have Primed Thrustors? You CAN use the boost/roll so he absolutely still checks.
The trigger for free actions still happen if you cant do the action it leads to, it just doesnt do anything because youre stressed.

Also he doesnt specify which arc so the bug would have to be clear on both arcs. Not sure why the bug would ever not have R3A2 or in Fenn's case R2/potentially R3 though.

3 hours ago, Vineheart01 said:

technically yes because the trigger still happens considering it doesnt have a not-stressed clause. What if you have Primed Thrustors? You CAN use the boost/roll so he absolutely still checks.
The trigger for free actions still happen if you cant do the action it leads to, it just doesnt do anything because youre stressed.

Also he doesnt specify which arc so the bug would have to be clear on both arcs. Not sure why the bug would ever not have R3A2 or in Fenn's case R2/potentially R3 though.

That was my thinking too.

Since there is no stress condition, the card activates after executing a maneuver. The trigger can then still be true or false even if it's effect cannot happen.

Makes Flight Assist Astromech very interesting

Basically you can always check range from your arc(s) with FAA after you perform a maneuver. Even if there are clearly ships in/not in the arc. It's a free range measurement. Then, after measuring, you may choose to do the boost/barrel roll if you are eligible to do so.

Any additional information you gain from the range measurements is purely for your enjoyment.

On ‎29‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 10:59 PM, Vineheart01 said:

Also he doesnt specify which arc so the bug would have to be clear on both arcs. Not sure why the bug would ever not have R3A2 or in Fenn's case R2/potentially R3 though.

Because PS11 Fenn is a thing that exists. Flight Assist means he basically always has someone to trigger his ability off. Combine with Nien Numb and Pulse Ray Shields for even more fun.