Sorry new topic - but this is huge.

Rebellions are built on this kind of hope.

I think they'll bring it back with cosmetic crates

It will be interesting, with LFL likely being very, very observant this time.

I also look forward to their next quarterly report, as this just blew a huge hole in how much they intended to bring in.

Or they may have considered it a wash financially as many who decided to boycott might purchase now. The backlash was intense.

Much of their success depends on what they end up planning for the future. Like, if they plan to actually complete the story from the campaign without making you pay for it.

1 hour ago, Jo Jo said:

Or they may have considered it a wash financially as many who decided to boycott might purchase now. The backlash was intense.

This reeks of LFL, though, not EA.

Well good, but still how can you trust someone (person or entity) that has already tried to swindle you?

That being said I have been heard about complaints for Bugs on the XB1 version, but again with release not until Friday that could be patched. Still I am going to wait and see what the first week or two before I decide if it is a good purchase.

Might turn this into a buy when they release info on how exactly this is supposed to return, great news!

While I still think that microtransactions have no place in a full price++ AAA game, this is a huge step in the right direction, especially because they ACTUALLY said sorry. Now that I can respect.

I'm going to consider a purchase in December.

And here's the vain hope for the thick headed publisher CEOs will someday realize, that mobile gaming and PC/Console gaming are NOT THE SAME, and mircotransactions are NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL OF ACCEPTABLE in them.

Give me a free mobile game with microtransactions, and I say fine. I play SWGOH, I even spent money on it.

Give me a free or max $20 game with microtransactions, and I'll also say alright.

But when I buy a game for $60 $80 $120, I expect a full experience with SINGLE and multiplayer content, and not an excuse for ****** my wallet.

When they make a game that's guaranteed to sell several million copies, like, I dunno, a freaking STAR WARS game, they have no excuse for this cashw***ing that was the progression economy of BfrontEA 2.

This annoumcent has no impact on me as I was never going to make any in-game purchases in the first place.

And I was never going to buy it, but its good for those that will.

At least now people can stop complaining about it!

So the Disney CEO talked to the EA CEO and then shortly after that they suspended the micro transactions.

What I've read is if the pressure continues, crates will come back as just cosmetic, but if pressure lessens and sales pick up then it's all coming back as 'accellerated experience' and will never go away.

I'l wait until that decision is made and rolled out before I make mine to buy the game or not.

56 minutes ago, heychadwick said:

At least now people can stop complaining about it!

Oh don't you worry, people will find things to complain about. It's the nature of our society right now and the internet. They can't just let something be fun anymore.

1 minute ago, RStan said:

Oh don't you worry, people will find things to complain about. It's the nature of our society right now and the internet. They can't just let something be fun anymore.

That's terrible! Why can't people change? I hate that people act like that! Sorry....just complaining about people complaining.

If we don't stop this now it'll become the norm and it'll ruin many more games in the future, pay to win is not okay.

If we don't stop this now it'll become the norm and it'll ruin many more games in the future, pay to win is not okay.

A few videos I posted on other sites but I'll leave them here.

Jim Sterling's video best describes my opinions of this whole mess. Being from Jim Sterling I have to put this note in. Caution , may contain mature language. But yeah, is it still going to be a 40 hour grind for a single character? The game has been broken to make room for Loot Boxes. Have they patched up the hole that they left when they removed them in a knee jerk reaction to all this Bad Pub? (Great now I want another Netrunner Card called EA)

This is the first video I heard about Disney and EA having a chat. As much as I hope this causes Disney to pull their IP from EA odds are since EA holds so much of Disney's IP more so than just Star Wars EA will have to save face.

I'm not convinced at LevelCap's methodology in corroborating what he is reporting. The question mark is barely a concession at lack of actual journalistic investigation. But the Title Scree is the best.

So it is a very interesting time for Star Wars games, one might call it a turning point. Now which side will it turn to is anyone's guess.

1 hour ago, Hobojebus said:

If we don't stop this now it'll become the norm and it'll ruin many more games in the future, pay to win is not okay.

Once you're done with EA you should move on to FFG, their P2W system is ridiculous.

15 hours ago, Marinealver said:

Well good, but still how can you trust someone (person or entity) that has already tried to swindle you?

That being said I have been heard about complaints for Bugs on the XB1 version, but again with release not until Friday that could be patched. Still I am going to wait and see what the first week or two before I decide if it is a good purchase.

Does buying Battlefront 2 require you to trust EA though?

Maybe I just look at it all at face value. I played the demo. Absolutely loved it. It was a no brainer for me. I think people should really try to make up their own mind. You aren't buying a house here... it's not a 30 year commitment. Watch a few streams, see if you think it's something that you'd enjoy. Decide for yourself. I don't think you need to trust EA at all.

Indeed. EA didn't make the game, they're just publishing it. I have a ton of respect for both DICE and Criterion, they're responsible for some very good games.

If you don't stand for something you stand for nothing, cosmetic items was iffy enough but at least didn't effect gameplay.

But this year we've had multiple examples of games having loot boxes directly effect gameplay in AAA titles and its take a stand or bend over time.

5 hours ago, FTS Gecko said:

Indeed. EA didn't make the game, they're just publishing it. I have a ton of respect for both DICE and Criterion, they're responsible for some very good games.

Yet a decline in quality us undeniable and they are owned by EA who are known to dictate elements of games to their studios like monetization (Dead Space 3 needs microtransactions), DRM (Maxis, great studio, I heard the new sim city was just a smash hit), and of course following the latest industry fad. CoD making lots of money? Put that progression into Battlefield, also make it an MMS with a pointless campaign. Coop is the next big thing? Hey, another thing that fits the lonely atmosphere of Dead Space 3 perfectly! Overwatch gets away with lootboxes? Let's do that, too, but even worse!

The publisher has "creative" input on their studios games, especially when they own them. It is naive to think otherwise.

And all that isn't even talking about the setting of unrealistic deadlines resulting in pretty much every EA published game of recent-ish history being released in an unexeptable state. But I guess that is to be expected nowadays, too. Thanks Bethesda...

You absolutely need to trust EA not to push DICE to encourage microtransactions to enjoy this game. It is just so likely that they have a target for how much money these lotboxes have to make (not to cover cost, the inflated 60+$ pricetag takes care of that, to fullfill unsustainable promises to the shareholders). You can't trust EA not to push DICE in a way that makes the game less enjoyable if you don't cash in, but you have to if you buy this game.