In Armada we are Han Solo.

Han shot first.

In X-Wing our starfighters are actually painted and fit on bases that move in a precise manner rather than just being plopped on the board somewhere within a certain range of where they were before, and we get to actually roll dice when defending, and we have at least twice as many pilots per ship.

In Armada you guys have Thrawn and Sato and all the other cool characters that we’ll never see in X-Wing. And you have real Star Destroyers, not tiny little corvettes that get retconned into the canon by Battlefront. And in your game Hera is realistically good.

Both games get crazy FAQ nerfs and have weird metas and power imbalances.

So they’re different games. What’s your point? I don’t think shooting then moving would be great for X-Wing, because whoever shot first would get a massive advantage due to reposition and arc dodging.

You seem upset at a harmless joke

Wanna talk about it?

No, in X-wing you shoot, move, move a bit more, shoot two more times, and still don't kill your target.

24 minutes ago, Nyxen said:

No, in X-wing you shoot, move, move a bit more, shoot two more times, and still don't kill your target.

If you're me, you don't even hit your target, and that's when you're rolling four dice and your opponent's rolling none!

Back on topic (sort of), though, I wish there were an Armada group in my area. Looks like a really fun game.

2 hours ago, Geressen said:

You seem upset at a harmless joke

Wanna talk about it?

It's not wise to upset a Wookiee. You might just want to move along. . .

2 hours ago, Nyxen said:

No, in X-wing you shoot, move, move a bit more, shoot two more times, and still don't kill your target.

And Han sometimes shoots first and sometimes not, because activation order

Meanwhile PS9 Vi Han shoots like he is supposed to: First.

Yeah, xwing is move and then shoot. Different Dynamics for different games. I think Armada looks cool but I'm not investing in two space combat games.

4 hours ago, Geressen said:

You seem upset at a harmless joke

Wanna talk about it?

Lol, what a nice "welcome to the x wing forums!!"

that was some salt directed out of nowhere man, sorry you had to get bombarded like that jeez.

5 hours ago, Geressen said:

You seem upset at a harmless joke

Wanna talk about it?

Sorry, didn’t mean to seem upset! I was honestly just wondering what you meant - my apologies. Over here we have a ton of trolls who bring random ideas from other games and suggest that we should co-opt them into X-Wing. I guess you can chalk this one up to the language barrier (Armada folks tend to be much friendlier than X-Wing folks). That, and I see so many “fix” threads all over the place, I didn’t understand it was a joke. Again, my apologies.

Just now, Kieransi said:

Sorry, didn’t mean to seem upset! I was honestly just wondering what you meant - my apologies. Over here we have a ton of trolls who bring random ideas from other games and suggest that we should co-opt them into X-Wing. I guess you can chalk this one up to the language barrier (Armada folks tend to be much friendlier than X-Wing folks). That, and I see so many “fix” threads all over the place, I didn’t understand it was a joke. Again, my apologies.

I would like to point out that @Kieransi just gave a very sincere apology and was very friendly.

Thanks for making the forum a friendly place

2 minutes ago, Mackaywarrior said:

I would like to point out that @Kieransi just gave a very sincere apology and was very friendly.

I know, right? Someone really needs to revoke his Internet license.

Not just X-wing but 40k also. I forgot what Legion is but I assume it is also move then shoot. The thing with X-wing is that movement and shooting is reversed so those that move first shoot last which does lend the theme of pilot skill rather well with last minuet actions by veteran pilots who can react more quickly than raw rookies.

As for 40k though it is an entire side that moves at once. I liked an old turn order adjustment that was in Battle missions and I think it was first used in space hulk where the first player moves, the 2nd player shoots, then the 1st player charges, then the 2nd player moves the 1st payer shoots then the 2nd player charges.

So how about that Star Wars Legion (apologies to all fellow IA skirmish players, FFG did you guys wrong with that).

I think Legion can be either/or, actually. You get two actions, moving is one option, attacking can be another, but not I can't remember from demo videos if shooting first is then your whole turn.

6 hours ago, Geressen said:

You seem upset at a harmless joke

Wanna talk about it?

And you seem to have missed the bit where jokes are funny.

Maybe if we every get a new pilot version of Han; his ability should read.

"Han shoots first regardless of PS"

10 hours ago, Kieransi said:

In Armada you guys have Thrawn and Sato and all the other cool characters that we’ll never see in X-Wing. And you have real Star Destroyers, not tiny little corvettes that get retconned into the canon by Battlefront. And in your game Hera is realistically good.

They have Thrawn but his ISD comes with a stupid butt-tatoo paintjob.

7 hours ago, ScummyRebel said:

Yeah, xwing is move and then shoot. Different Dynamics for different games. I think Armada looks cool but I'm not investing in two space combat games.

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Usually players collect both sides, so they have enough stuff that you can play empire vs rebels with just one guys collection. And it is the same for X-Wing guys who should have no issue to build a few lists out of their "one of everything" collection

2 hours ago, Hannes Solo said:

They have Thrawn but his ISD comes with a stupid butt-tatoo paintjob.

it's a thrawnstamp

10 hours ago, Kieransi said:

Over here we have a ton of trolls who bring random ideas from other games and suggest that we should co-opt them into X-Wing.

Speaking of which, when in tarnation are we going to get Mr. Moneybags as crew for the Imperials? TIE Fighters don't grow on trees, ya know.

8 hours ago, the1hodgy said:

Maybe if we every get a new pilot version of Han; his ability should read.

"Han shoots first regardless of PS"

During the Combat Phase, treat your Pilot Skill as being 12.

12 hours ago, UnitOmega said:

I think Legion can be either/or, actually. You get two actions, moving is one option, attacking can be another, but not I can't remember from demo videos if shooting first is then your whole turn.

I am 98% sure you're right. Two actions, any actions, and you pick the order.

1 hour ago, BadMotivator said:

During the Combat Phase, treat your Pilot Skill as being 12.

Nah. "During Combat Phase always shoot first."

PS12 has a few cases when it could be changed, this one can't be overridden or beaten by init.

6 minutes ago, SEApocalypse said:

Nah. "During Combat Phase always shoot first."

PS12 has a few cases when it could be changed, this one can't be overridden or beaten by init.

Does initiative matter in the event of both players flying Han, or do they both fire first?

42 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Does initiative matter in the event of both players flying Han, or do they both fire first?

They do both fire first. Just roll the red dice!