Yeah, this is a very small sample from just a couple of weekends, and mainly without any big events. There's plenty of time for it all to change.

Useful for a sense check if you're thinking very differently to what this suggests, though.

I have 22points free in my imperial list. My options are Sabacc, OL, Nu, or Scimitar.

Clearly Scimitar can be removed because Nu is just way better.

Sabacc is not as convincing at 22points.

And a third Harpoon that can be reloaded (which should draw some focus!) looks like the way better choice than 2 attack dice with ASTS

Only 22, not 23? What's the rest of the list?

E: Nu with LRS and Harpoon is almost certainly best but if you can sacrifice something for 23 points and Harpoons in the rest of the list Omega Ace with Advanced Optics and Crack SHot is great for triggering the condition reliably so it doesn't splash the rest of your list when you don't want it to.

1 hour ago, thespaceinvader said:

VI on Rhos seems odd. WHat are they jumping with that, from 4 to 6, that wouldn't be better with Crack Shot?

1 hour ago, FTS Gecko said:

Other Rhos.

Potentially Asajj too. You're not jumping her, but she shows up so much that at least getting to fire at her at the same time makes sure the alpha gets to her before her squad can potentially PS kill it. Mostly other Rhos though.

3 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:

Harpoon LRS it is then

Until Black 1 starts getting real popular.

4 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Until Black 1 starts getting real popular.

Oddly enough, a VI, Adv Optics, B1, R2D2, & AT PS9 Poe fits perfectly with Dash that can equip Countermeasures and Scavenging Crane....

23 minutes ago, RStan said:

Oddly enough, a VI, Adv Optics, B1, R2D2, & AT PS9 Poe fits perfectly with Dash that can equip Countermeasures and Scavenging Crane....

Except the gunboats have Kylo as their bodyguard, and he ends up living in Dash's doughnut.

Just now, gennataos said:

Except the gunboats have Kylo as their bodyguard, and he ends up living in Dash's doughnut.

That's my main reason to be hesitant about bringing that combo together. You'd have to kill the gunboats super fast and make it Dash & Poe vs Kylo. It's possible but I'm not convinced that much of Dash will be left to help burn enough of Kylo for Poe to finish him.

23 minutes ago, RStan said:

Oddly enough, a VI, Adv Optics, B1, R2D2, & AT PS9 Poe fits perfectly with Dash that can equip Countermeasures and Scavenging Crane....

Targeting synchronizer QD has appeared alongside some gunboats as well (which allows the gunboats to take GC). Not nearly as often as LRS boats, but if B1 comes around, expect this to be the next step.

The most successful lists are: Gunboat, Gunboat, Gunboat, Quickdraw OR Quickdraw, Backdraft, Gunboat

Kylo really isn't very good, at least on his current showing.

Just now, RStan said:

That's my main reason to be hesitant about bringing that combo together. You'd have to kill the gunboats super fast and make it Dash & Poe vs Kylo. It's possible but I'm not convinced that much of Dash will be left to help burn enough of Kylo for Poe to finish him.

I think VI Poe of any (reasonable) sort beats Kylo 1 v 1, as long as he can avoid the PS0 crit.

Just now, gennataos said:

I think VI Poe of any (reasonable) sort beats Kylo 1 v 1, as long as he can avoid the PS0 crit.

If the players facing off against each other are at the same skill level, I'm not really sure about that. Kylo can just be so many places vs a Poe that can only boost to reposition. If the Kylo player knows what they're doing and sees the matrix, he'll find places Poe can't get him and can just run it to time since Kylo is worth more than the VI Poe.

5 minutes ago, Crit Happens said:

Targeting synchronizer QD has appeared alongside some gunboats as well (which allows the gunboats to take GC). Not nearly as often as LRS boats, but if B1 comes around, expect this to be the next step.

Oh dear lord. I'll stop evangelizing Poe now in the hopes that doesn't happen.

1 minute ago, RStan said:

If the players facing off against each other are at the same skill level, I'm not really sure about that. Kylo can just be so many places vs a Poe that can only boost to reposition. If the Kylo player knows what they're doing and sees the matrix, he'll find places Poe can't get him and can just run it to time since Kylo is worth more than the VI Poe.

Yeah, good point. I think I'm the only believer of BB-8 Poe, which has a much better chance of dealing with Kylo.

9 minutes ago, Stay On The Leader said:

The most successful lists are: Gunboat, Gunboat, Gunboat, Quickdraw OR Quickdraw, Backdraft, Gunboat

Kylo really isn't very good, at least on his current showing.

Not QD Vader Gunboat why?

Just now, thespaceinvader said:

Not QD Vader Gunboat why?

It's early days, but surely it's on the list somewhere too.

48 minutes ago, Biophysical said:

Until Black 1 starts getting real popular.

I‘m more afraid of countermeasures crane assajj, because Poe can die to two ps11 harpoons and then that problem is solved

1 hour ago, thespaceinvader said:

Omega Ace with Advanced Optics and Crack SHot is great for triggering the condition reliably so it doesn't splash the rest of your list when you don't want it to.

Crack Shot or Swarm Leader with some TIE Fighters nearby? With a loaded up attack Upsilon or a beefed Silencer?

Time Walk Assaj gives the triple Gunboats the Luke shoulder brush already, she doesn't really need Scavenger Crane.

"Omega Ace" (20)
Trick Shot (0)
Advanced Optics (2)

Nu Squadron Pilot (18)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)

Nu Squadron Pilot (18)
Harpoon Missiles (4)
Long-Range Scanners (0)

Darth Vader (29)
Adaptability (0)
Advanced Targeting Computer (1)
Engine Upgrade (4)
TIE/x1 (0)

Total: 100

View in Yet Another Squad Builder

There is my missile build, only because I do not have a third boat or harpoon missile yet, so why not do what I can to trigger them harpoons but by adding Omega Ace...because reasons.

18 minutes ago, RStan said:

If the players facing off against each other are at the same skill level, I'm not really sure about that. Kylo can just be so many places vs a Poe that can only boost to reposition. If the Kylo player knows what they're doing and sees the matrix, he'll find places Poe can't get him and can just run it to time since Kylo is worth more than the VI Poe.

I'm personally not sold on Poe with whoever being able to swing for the fence in the current meta; just not seeing it. Kylo's dial is far too much for him to handle even if he has all the other cards; he stays trapped getting plinked down to nothing, perhaps with the occasional moment of grabbing a shield back; or with BB8, getting to dance a bit to slightly mimic Kylo, but dying much quicker.

8 minutes ago, Celestial Lizards said:

Crack Shot or Swarm Leader with some TIE Fighters nearby? With a loaded up attack Upsilon or a beefed Silencer?

As the third ship with Vader and QD both using Harpoons.

Using Swarm Leader is an option but it's super risky, you're putting ALL your damage from the list into a single 4 hit point ship that never wants to spend its focus token to not die.

If I were doing a janky Swarm Leader list it would be Swarm Leader QD plus Debriis Gambit Youngster and a bunch of other TIE Fighters. Debris Gambit action to keep QD as tanky as possible, and lots of ships with double evades to feed QD's every shot.

But it would be bad.

4 hours ago, Stay On The Leader said:

Because Crack Shot isn't as good as you think?

Outside of Crack Swarm I don't think Crack Shot has ever made a meaningful impact. It's a lazy EPT choice people default to where there's usually better options.

Brobots used it a lot when they were still good in the symmetrical HLC/FCS/Glitterstim/Crack Shot/ATs build, which was the dominant one through wave 7 - good enough for them to still see play despite the bad Miranda and Palp-Ace matchups. Crack Shot played a huge role in their early damage potential. It can fullfill the same role on HLC Rhos, so it definitly has a place on them. Its just that at the end of the day, cheap Nus might just be better.

4 hours ago, thespaceinvader said:

Aren't harpoons just such a great balanced card?

Power creep, as well as being more confusing than they ought to be...

4 hours ago, Stay On The Leader said:

They'd be about as good at 23pts with Homing Missiles.

But without splash damage, or the extra face-down card if you have an uncancelled crit, and they still cost a point more.

25 minutes ago, theBitterFig said:

Power creep, as well as being more confusing than they ought to be...

But without splash damage, or the extra face-down card if you have an uncancelled crit, and they still cost a point more.

But with the ability to ignore an Evade, which is becoming relevant again. Harpoons genuinely struggle to hurt Asajj but Homing Missiles will get through, same for Soontir.

At this moment in time it's all Harpoons and people are losing their **** over it, but since bombs got nerfed we've seen the hyper-defensive green dice & tokens come back and if that continues then I can well imagine we're all using Homing Missile in two month's time.

2 hours ago, gennataos said:

I think VI Poe of any (reasonable) sort beats Kylo 1 v 1, as long as he can avoid the PS0 crit.

Kylo just runs to time. I spent over 20 minutes running with Kylo in this exact scenario. You have a get out of jail free card (title) if you need it for when Poe eventually cuts you off. Poe can't do the necessary damage at R3.