Rey is Ben's daughter (not the one you think)

By benbaxter, in X-Wing

Okay I went back and dug through the ages of the parent/kids I could find and early 20's with Anakin seems to be the youngest. Maybe 16 is a little too much of a jump.

We all know that Rey is the daughter of Abeloth. Why should Abeloth choose some whiner like little Ben to mate? I do not think so.

1 hour ago, benbaxter said:

A 14 year old Rey would be doable.

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The movies will not be so brave.

Hate to say it, but their determination to not innovate is strong enough to reassure me against such radical plot twists, because Ren just isn't old enough to justify it.

6 hours ago, benbaxter said:

Luke sort of recognizes her when she lands with his lightsaber. It wasn't a "who the heck are you" look he gave, more of a "I didn't expect you to find me" look.

Really? His look struck me as more of a "What's going on? Who am I?" look of senility.

(Seriously. It didn't look like Mark Hamill was reacting at all to anything during that scene, and it started getting a little awkward.)

6 hours ago, benbaxter said:

That's no fun. I think it would be a much more interesting plot point than being the daughter of Luke or Leia.

Misread that as Luke and Leia the first time. Was about to post concerned K-2S0...

5 hours ago, ABXY said:

Oh, and Anakin was soooo loveable!

;)

I hate sand, it’s coarse and rough and it gets everywhere.

Not just the men, but the women and the children to!

Now this is pod racing!

YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER!!!!

I think Rey is a very old Jedi from Ork....

they are born old and get younger there you know.

Calling it here and now.

Jabba the Hutt is Rey’s dad.

That’s the theory I’m sticking with unless and until the movies say otherwise. :P

10 hours ago, benbaxter said:

She is as powerful as he is (thus Luke's comment about being as strong as Kylo)

That's an assumption. "He's only seen this kind of raw power once before" makes me think of a completely different star wars character.

My personal suspicions:

Meta-Plot-Writing

  • The Last Jedi is film 2 of a saga trilogy. That means we're due some despair-inducing story element and a plot twist.
  • "Rey is a Skywalker" is not actually a plot twist in any way; people have been assuming it so much that it'd almost be a let-down as a 'twist'.
  • It'd be nice for not every single character significant to the story to be from the same dratted bloodline.
  • What bloodline could Rey be from that would really provoke an 'oh ******' response from both the viewers and the in-universe characters she's surrounded by (presumably Luke and the First Order at the time)?

Random observations from Episode VII, the Aftermath Book Series and Battlefront II

  • "The Contingency" seems really convoluted and a bit hypocritical.
    • Palpatine's plan is essentially 'if I'm dead, burn it all'. That seems vindictive and cruel (perfectly sith) but also rather petty.

Fact from Before the Awakening: Rey remembers her parents. I think that pretty well rules out most, if not all characters from the OT.

Episodes VII through IX are the Skywalker saga. Kylo/Ben is a Skywalker. Trope satisfied.

Edited by jmswood

Also, do you really think Disney would reveal someone's parents in the flagship films to be a character/characters that 75% of the audience won't know or care about?

The Empire reveal works as you don't NEED to know a bunch of backstory. It's the hero finding out the evil villain is his dad. That's it.

If they have a moment where Rey is told her parents were actually heroes of the old Rebellion called Ezra and Sabine, half the audience would go 'who?' and then another quarter would be like 'ugh that kids show?'.

I bet 60% of people who saw Rogue One don't even have an INKLING that Saw was in any Star Wars before, and for the film it doesn't actually matter. But for the reveal of a main character's parentage, you can't go all geeky with it, you'd just lose people.

Maybe Rey is Maz's daughter? It would certainly explain...

...ok, so I guess it really doesn't help explain anything, but if we're already naming every other character in the galaxy as a potential parent, why not?

SPOILER: It turns out that Rey's father is IG-88! (highlight to read)

Obviously Chewbacca and Maz Kanada's love child. She even resembled her dad!

My original thought watching the movie was Obi-Wan + Satine Kryze grand-daughter. No wonder he was blinded by the Padme + Anikan craziness....because he was guilty of relationships too. So easy to build tragedy from Mandalore.


Then I started thinking an Ezra / Sabine venture past the outer rims (if Thrawn is sent to hunt them down). Keeps Disney from having to kill them and removes Thrawn from the picture sticking closer to the books. It does give another avenue of tragedy and abandonment. I keep expecting them to go on some mission to find some Jedi artifact / temple / people / animals (loth wolves).

Then I realized that the Directors have full autonomy in some concepts even though Story Group is keeping a good finger on the pulse. While Saw (one of my most hated characters in Clone Wars) made it to Rogue One (still one of my most hated characters) this did set the precedence that cross-overs are an option for Disney. But movie directors are risk-adverse and it would be hard to explain the two theories above. I just hope we don't have to endure another immaculate conception.....that would make me sick.

I just BEG....BEG that is is not a Luke, Leia, Han tie in somehow. I am sick of the Skywalker's causing wars in the Galaxy.

5 minutes ago, rilesman said:

My original thought watching the movie was Obi-Wan + Satine Kryze grand-daughter. No wonder he was blinded by the Padme + Anikan craziness....because he was guilty of relationships too. So easy to build tragedy from Mandalore.

While I think it is realistically unlikely, this is my favorite theory.

5 minutes ago, rilesman said:

My original thought watching the movie was Obi-Wan + Satine Kryze grand-daughter. No wonder he was blinded by the Padme + Anikan craziness....because he was guilty of relationships too. So easy to build tragedy from Mandalore.


Then I started thinking an Ezra / Sabine venture past the outer rims (if Thrawn is sent to hunt them down). Keeps Disney from having to kill them and removes Thrawn from the picture sticking closer to the books. It does give another avenue of tragedy and abandonment. I keep expecting them to go on some mission to find some Jedi artifact / temple / people / animals (loth wolves).

Then I realized that the Directors have full autonomy in some concepts even though Story Group is keeping a good finger on the pulse. While Saw (one of my most hated characters in Clone Wars) made it to Rogue One (still one of my most hated characters) this did set the precedence that cross-overs are an option for Disney. But movie directors are risk-adverse and it would be hard to explain the two theories above. I just hope we don't have to endure another immaculate conception.....that would make me sick.

I just BEG....BEG that is is not a Luke, Leia, Han tie in somehow. I am sick of the Skywalker's causing wars in the Galaxy.

Saw was in Clone Wars? Was he in one single episode, or was he a recurring character?

3 minutes ago, JJ48 said:

Saw was in Clone Wars? Was he in one single episode, or was he a recurring character?

I believe four episode and it was too much. His sister on the other hand was super Awesome. As a retired Vet I would have followed her into battle any day. If I was single and a cartoon, I would hope a chance to date.

From Star Wars Wiki http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Saw_Gerrera

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2 minutes ago, rilesman said:

I believe four episode and it was too much. His sister on the other hand was super Awesome. As a retired Vet I would have followed her into battle any day. If I was single, I would hope a chance to date.

From Star Wars Wiki http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Saw_Gerrera

Ok, I just looked him up, and I think I recall seeing him now. I guess I didn't remember the name, and since he looks so different, I never really made the connection.

My personal favorite fan theory, she is a descendant (great granddaughter) of Shmi Skywalker and Qui Gon Jinn. A guy can hope Qui Gon's legacy continues right!

1 hour ago, Jadotch said:

My personal favorite fan theory, she is a descendant (great granddaughter) of Shmi Skywalker and Qui Gon Jinn. A guy can hope Qui Gon's legacy continues right!

How the heck would that have even happened?

18 minutes ago, BadMotivator said:

How the heck would that have even happened?

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If Shmi was a Skywalker, then it stands to reason that she had siblings also with the ability to birth through the Force interfering. SO, Rey could be Luke's 2nd cousin, 3rd cousin to Kylo, but that's heading into Space Balls™ territory.

By the way, what ever happened with the Naberries? (Padme's parents & sister)

1 hour ago, Force Majeure said:

If Shmi was a Skywalker, then it stands to reason that she had siblings also with the ability to birth through the Force interfering. SO, Rey could be Luke's 2nd cousin, 3rd cousin to Kylo, but that's heading into Space Balls™ territory.

How does any of that logically follow from the premise "Shmi was a Skywalker"?