Illegal honor bid?

By CommissarFeesh, in L5R LCG: Rules Discussion

Has anyone posting here ever set their dial between numbers or seen another player do so?

I have accidentally set my dial to the blank space when I meant a 1. I had been bidding 1 all game. When we revealed I said "Oops, that's supposed to be a one." My opponent nodded and we went on with the game.

16 hours ago, Robin Graves said:

No no no no. When you do that it's obvious you're doing something incorrect. With the L5R dial there's a blank space, leading people to assume you can bid blank, or zero.

Well, that’s a mistake you can only make once, and only if you’re a new player. So if you’re trying to bid zero intentionally, I’ll just point to you that you can’t, and you have to bid 1 (since is the next legal number).

But if you’re an “experienced” player and bid 0, it’s impossible that’s deliberately, and if you say it was accidentally, then, in my group, our houserule applies, because, frankly, you should know better.

On 12/12/2017 at 9:09 AM, Khudzlin said:

Has anyone posting here ever set their dial between numbers or seen another player do so?

Maybe once or twice but I can't be sure. If there wasn't a blank spot between the 1 and 5 I bet any of my fingers that it would happen.

I think I saw someone putting his dial in a way that allowed to pick between 1 and 2 while revealing it.

My guess is that without a blank spot it could be done that, while low on honor, my opponent could chose to align himself on my 5 bid if I go for a big CA in order to break his stronghold (and say : "I'm a master at reading my opponent").

The rule in X-Wing for setting an illegal maneuver on a dial used to be that your opponent got to choose your maneuver for you (as many people here have suggested). So if you screwed up, then your opponent could be like "HAH, have fun flying off the board!!!" Eventually FFG changed it to an automatic 2-Straight if you dialed something illegally. Honestly, I could see either option being used for this game.

On December 23, 2017 at 3:13 AM, Mandalore525 said:

The rule in X-Wing for setting an illegal maneuver on a dial used to be that your opponent got to choose your maneuver for you (as many people here have suggested). So if you screwed up, then your opponent could be like "HAH, have fun flying off the board!!!" Eventually FFG changed it to an automatic 2-Straight if you dialed something illegally. Honestly, I could see either option being used for this game.

What would a "2-straight" be in terms of an honor bid, though?

5 hours ago, Vlad3theImpaler said:

What would a "2-straight" be in terms of an honor bid, though?

Hmm, tough question. In X-Wing that's a maneuver that basically every ship has, it's not a turn and it's not particularly fast or slow. It's unlikely to screw you over unless you already had your ship's nose pointed at something dangerous. Maybe a 2 or a 3 honor bid?

EDIT: Also, I believe that the two straight in this case is counted as a white maneuver (X-Wing fans please correct me if I'm wrong). That means that it neither gives stress nor clears stress. So you could go the route of saying your Honor bid is one or two, but you can't take Honor from your opponent (but maybe they still could from you?).

Edited by Mandalore525

It happened a few times to us during early play. We made a house rule that it counts as a bid of 1 but you drew no cards and no honour exchanged (The we ridiculed the culprit relentlessly). It stopped happening really quick.

On 12/12/2017 at 0:09 AM, Khudzlin said:

Has anyone posting here ever set their dial between numbers or seen another player do so?

Yup. My wife did so on at least 2 occasions. She definitely cheated, but I had to let her slide both times.

I won both games in the end. :D

On 12/12/2017 at 3:09 AM, Khudzlin said:

Has anyone posting here ever set their dial between numbers or seen another player do so?

I've seen people deliberately set their dial to the blank. But they were just learning the game and it was their first or second game. I adjusted my explanation to account for that.

4 hours ago, Mirith said:

I've seen people deliberately set their dial to the blank. But they were just learning the game and it was their first or second game. I adjusted my explanation to account for that.

New players can be forgiven such mistakes (and a Conquest-like dial would prevent them altogether).