Can the peacemaker be hit with cloud the Mind to allow it to attack or is the cannot absolute?

Cannot is absolute, but Cloud the Mind means it no longer has the restriction at all, thus it can attack.

Cloud the mind treats printed text as blank. Blank text means no restriction, so it allows the unit to attack.

I think the only exception to this would be if there was text "This text cannot be removed" (Which we haven't seen yet and is just speculation).

What InquisitorM said.

It's a nice move I've done a couple of times. Good surprise. Until you face a more experienced player who knows that this cheap 2 Fate combo with a Mil of 4 can happen. It's also a good way to draw out Assassination. Either kill the 4 Mil guy or target one of my shugenjas and get the province broken.

I recently played that with a crane splash and added Duelist Training. Was fun!

This same question came up on Facebook in the Phoenix group, and a member was stating that there was a dev ruling from Nate French indicating that the "cannot" would still trump Cloud the Mind. I don't really think that's true, but I went ahead and submitted a Rules Inquiry to put any question of it to rest.

Also, not meaning to insult, but the misspell "Shiva" instead of "Shiba" made me lol since it's paired with "Peacemaker".

8 hours ago, Zesu Shadaban said:

and a member was stating that there was a dev ruling from Nate French indicating that the "cannot" would still trump Cloud the Mind

Do you remember the reasoning that the poster gave? It seems pretty clear to me that Cloud the Mind would unambiguously remove the limitation on being an attacker, but am I missing something?

13 hours ago, Zesu Shadaban said:

This same question came up on Facebook in the Phoenix group, and a member was stating that there was a dev ruling from Nate French indicating that the "cannot" would still trump Cloud the Mind. I don't really think that's true, but I went ahead and submitted a Rules Inquiry to put any question of it to rest.

Also, not meaning to insult, but the misspell "Shiva" instead of "Shiba" made me lol since it's paired with "Peacemaker".

is there some where else thats gonna get an official ruling we should be asking these questions? I was kind of like of sweet a rules thread, but where is an official rules guy at to answer these lol.

7 hours ago, Suzume Tomonori said:

Do you remember the reasoning that the poster gave? It seems pretty clear to me that Cloud the Mind would unambiguously remove the limitation on being an attacker, but am I missing something?

He and some other people argue that the rules reference states:

Cannot
The word “cannot” is absolute, and cannot be countermanded by other abilities or effects.

No text, no "cannot".

So what is the current consensus with regards to this question?

I'm reading it as Cloud the Mind would certainly remove the restriction and allow the Peacemaker to attack.

Unless something comes out in an Errata or Q&A format, I don't think that a Cloud the Mind couldn't enact its ability and remove the restriction.

16 hours ago, Zesu Shadaban said:

This same question came up on Facebook in the Phoenix group, and a member was stating that there was a dev ruling from Nate French indicating that the "cannot" would still trump Cloud the Mind. with "Peacemaker".

Did this person provide a link to the ruling, or is it simply Chinese Whispers?

22 minutes ago, Bayushi Shunsuke said:

Did this person provide a link to the ruling, or is it simply Chinese Whispers?

Far as I'm concerned, Chinese Whispers. He said it was in a video interview with Nate, was adamant it happened, so figured I'm not losing anything putting in an inquiry to confirm the consensus that the cannot does indeed get blanked by CtM.

Getting an official inquiry to put here on the forums seems like the best thing to do.

But yeah, if it turns out the ruling is that blanking a text block doesn't actually blank certain text then I will be very surprised. It's one thing to have game terms that mean certain things that are not obvious to the un-initiated or timing effects that get down to the nitty-gritty, but this seems like a clear case of just applying the plain English as written.

lol it seems kind of silly for FFG to create a rules thread that is ran by the player base in the first place. Do they not have an official like old l5r?

They, in fact, do have an official rules question form .

31 minutes ago, yujufrazer said:

lol it seems kind of silly for FFG to create a rules thread that is ran by the player base in the first place. Do they not have an official like old l5r?

No, they don't. They seem to avoid having their staff look at forums at all, which means usually a question comes up, someone sends an e-mail for an official ruling, then they post it here.

1 hour ago, dbmeboy said:

They, in fact, do have an official rules question form .

thank you that is super useful to know

6 hours ago, yujufrazer said:

thank you that is super useful to know

Probably not as useful as you'd think...

Shiba Peacemaker after Cloud the Mind

Protection from blanking is explicit in FFG's other games.