A new non Skywalker trilogy

By Drasnighta, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

YES! Corner never explored before! Sounds better than milking the Skywalker bloodline endlessly just for story’s sake!

Corner never before explored you say? Like maybe an... unknown region?

50 minutes ago, BiggsIRL said:

Corner never before explored you say? Like maybe an... unknown region?

An exploratory, Star Trek esque Galactic Republic trilogy would be very neat.

That or...

The Huttfather

The Huttfather II

The Huttfather III

Also, that Disney was so impressed with TLJ, that they gave Rian a full trilogy before it even came out, speaks well for TLJ.

13 hours ago, Visovics said:

YES! Corner never explored before! Sounds better than milking the Skywalker bloodline endlessly just for story’s sake!

I think this is what the Prequels got wrong. It never should have been about Anakin, just like the OT was not about Vader. Anakin/Vader is a force of nature, and you don't tell the story of a hurricane from the perspective of the storm itself.

Edit: I fully realize that nobody has cared about my opinions on this for a decade or more. :)

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Maybe some kotor movies?

2 hours ago, rasproteus said:

I think this is what the Prequels got wrong. It never should have been about Anakin, just like the OT was not about Vader. Anakin/Vader is a force of nature, and you don't tell the story of a hurricane from the perspective of the storm itself.

Edit: I fully realize that nobody has cared about my opinions on this for a decade or more. :)

I fully agree with this...

What made Vader so terrifying in the OT was his mystery... the moment they showed him going through puberty he lost that

11 hours ago, ianediger said:

Also, that Disney was so impressed with TLJ, that they gave Rian a full trilogy before it even came out, speaks well for TLJ.

Or this is just smoke and mirrors to give us false confidence about TLJ which looks terrible from what I've seen so far. "You were unimpressed with the trailer? Don't worry. It's good. We promise. And look here. See? We're giving this guy more movies. It's good. Please come see it. Don't trust your gut after the mediocrity that was Force Awakens and Rogue One. And that whole thing with changing directors on Han Solo. We've got this all under control. We're totally not going to also send Princess Leia to her doom since the actress passed away. No reason to think this will be a downer. And you all love Empire Strikes Back. How much of a downer was that? This guys a good director. We're giving him more movies. Everything's fine here. We're all fine here."

17 hours ago, TheToad said:

I fully agree with this...

What made Vader so terrifying in the OT was his mystery... the moment they showed him going through puberty he lost that

This I️s what worries me about the new Han Solo film.... I’d rather have them keep it in the mystery, especially since Harrison Ford won’t be the one playing solo (since he obviously can’t lol)

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When they say "unexplored corner of Star Wars lore", two options come to my mind for possibilities:

1. A story and events happening in a completely remote corner of the galaxy/unknown regions that is so far removed from the events of the movies that this part of the galaxy has it's own separate events unfolding. Could be a chance to tell a Star Wars story the likes we've never seen when everything we've known about Star Wars isn't part of it. Although I'm not sure Disney would be willing to risk making the new trilogy accidentally not Star Wars by doing that.

2. The foundation of the Jedi Order. Jedi are kind of integral to Star Wars (lightsabers and the Force are at the core of Star Wars), so it would be pretty cool to see how they get their beginnings in the new canon. Wouldn't be hard to split that into a trilogy either.
First movie could be the new character discovering his or her connection to the Force and starting a sort of proto-Jedi Order. Second movie could be how one or more Jedi turn to the dark side (as they have different views on what being a "Jedi" means and how the Force should be used), forming the beginnings of the Sith. Third movie concludes the story and maybe shows how the newly founded Jedi Order integrates with the Galactic Republic while the Sith go into hiding, disappearing for the millennium, as Episode 1 claimed.

Though almost anything is open at this point. Without any more details on the movies, I suppose we get to guess away.

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On 11/11/2017 at 5:35 PM, Derpzilla88 said:

Jedi Order integrates with the Galactic Republic while the Sith go into hiding, disappearing for the millennium, as Episode 1 claimed.

I thought that it was officially canon that the Sith Wars happened after the Mandalorian Wars (despite all the stories on it becoming Legends material) and only then they went into hiding, or did Disney completely cancel that out?

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Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored.

I assumed this was a metaphorical "corner," rather than something like the Unknown Regions. New concepts, new species, new conflicts, etc. It could also just be marketing spin... Doing something completely removed from previous movies would risk alienating the audience if it doesn't evoke the sense of familiarity and nostalgia that Star Wars is famous for.

But I've got faith in Kathleen Kennedy - she seems to have very tight control over the franchise.

I want something like an "Outbound Flight" project story. If any of y'all remember, Outbound Flight was a mission to leave the known galaxy and colonize the Unknown Regions.

What also would be really neat is a Star Wars take on something like Star Trek Voyager, that is, a starship crew (would be really cool if it was an ISD) find themselves in an unfamiliar part of the galaxy and has to explore to find their way home.

This would let them bring in the Chiss and maybe even some Legends stuff like the Yevetha and the Yuuzhan Vong, and it sounds like a fun movie...

On 10/11/2017 at 5:21 PM, Frimmel said:

Don't trust your gut after the mediocrity that was Force Awakens and Rogue One.

I feel like we watched a different Rogue One.

On 11/10/2017 at 0:21 PM, Frimmel said:

Or this is just smoke and mirrors to give us false confidence about TLJ which looks terrible from what I've seen so far. "You were unimpressed with the trailer? Don't worry. It's good. We promise. And look here. See? We're giving this guy more movies. It's good. Please come see it. Don't trust your gut after the mediocrity that was Force Awakens and Rogue One. And that whole thing with changing directors on Han Solo. We've got this all under control. We're totally not going to also send Princess Leia to her doom since the actress passed away. No reason to think this will be a downer. And you all love Empire Strikes Back. How much of a downer was that? This guys a good director. We're giving him more movies. Everything's fine here. We're all fine here."

How are you?

And I'd love to see Thrawn in a movie.

Disney has shown a desire to distance itself from most of Legends so I think this will introduce a whole new set of characters. It doesn't make sense for them to restrict their creative freedom by building a story off the expanded universe that only a small percentage of fans would already know about.

7 hours ago, ManInTheBox said:

I feel like we watched a different Rogue One.

It was a bit better than "okay." The part from where they go off to steal the plans till the end is the best bit but even it has some clunky stuff and it is all bogged down with all the shaky cam nonsense. There are some questionable editing choices. Actually cutting footage in from Star Wars was really distracting and lazy and cheap and just took me right out of it. Killing the leads felt really lazy. The space battle was cool.

The plans aren't what the movie was about but they got distracted by their own macguffin. I think the last bit with Vader sent everyone out of the theater on a high note such that they forgot how "meh" the rest of the film was.

I'm glad you enjoyed it.

On 11/15/2017 at 5:17 AM, Captain Warden said:

I assumed this was a metaphorical "corner," rather than something like the Unknown Regions. New concepts, new species, new conflicts, etc. It could also just be marketing spin... Doing something completely removed from previous movies would risk alienating the audience if it doesn't evoke the sense of familiarity and nostalgia that Star Wars is famous for.

But I've got faith in Kathleen Kennedy - she seems to have very tight control over the franchise.

My understanding is part of the thing in the test screenings of Rogue One is complaints that it didn't "feel" like Star Wars. I think that's how we ended up with all the Vader. We might get something "new" as far as the film-going only audience is concerned but it seems unlikely we'll get anything really new to those of us who've followed the EU for two and a half decades.

We might get away from the Empire/Rebellion and jamming stuff into the OT trilogy like we've gotten (done well mind you) in the new comics but there will certainly be lightsabers and force-users in that case.

9 hours ago, Frimmel said:

My understanding is part of the thing in the test screenings of Rogue One is complaints that it didn't "feel" like Star Wars. I think that's how we ended up with all the Vader. We might get something "new" as far as the film-going only audience is concerned but it seems unlikely we'll get anything really new to those of us who've followed the EU for two and a half decades.

We might get away from the Empire/Rebellion and jamming stuff into the OT trilogy like we've gotten (done well mind you) in the new comics but there will certainly be lightsabers and force-users in that case.

Yeah, I think there will definitely be some familiar stuff in there. What I'd really like to see is a mixed-genre film. A detective story set in the Star Wars universe or a Western. The existing films have already experimented in this direction, with Obi-Wan's detective work in AotC and the war-film aesthetic of Rogue One. It'd be great to have a Jedi detective character.

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12 hours ago, Captain Warden said:

Yeah, I think there will definitely be some familiar stuff in there. What I'd really like to see is a mixed-genre film. A detective story set in the Star Wars universe or a Western. The existing films have already experimented in this direction, with Obi-Wan's detective work in AotC and the war-film aesthetic of Rogue One. It'd be great to have a Jedi detective character.

I think the other thing is they won't be content to make a profitable picture. I doubt they're willing to spend 60 or 75 million on something actually different and meant as a one of and take their 150 million dollar payday from the folks who will go see it because it is Star Wars. Judging by the rumors and such around the Han Solo movie they're working on the Star Wars version of the Marvel formula where the films are all a good bit better than okay but rarely really reach good. They'll all fit in this very narrow band of reliable quality... product .

On the one hand we'll be protected from the crap those original directors seemingly wanted to give us but at the cost of only ever getting a pleasant and mostly forgettable afternoon at the movies. (I have to remind myself that I saw a new Spider-man movie this summer for example.)

On 11/20/2017 at 8:32 PM, Captain Warden said:

Yeah, I think there will definitely be some familiar stuff in there. What I'd really like to see is a mixed-genre film. A detective story set in the Star Wars universe or a Western. The existing films have already experimented in this direction, with Obi-Wan's detective work in AotC and the war-film aesthetic of Rogue One. It'd be great to have a Jedi detective character.

Roger one really called back to me those cold war esqe spy thrillers. Admittedly more Lazers and aliens but that's how it felt at it's core. I think it would of been very cool for this to of been more kind of tinker Taylor soldier spy. A little more intrigue I think would of made for an even more unique feel. But I still like it and their still time.

12 minutes ago, Noosh said:

Roger one really called back to me those cold war esqe spy thrillers. Admittedly more Lazers and aliens but that's how it felt at it's core. I think it would of been very cool for this to of been more kind of tinker Taylor soldier spy. A little more intrigue I think would of made for an even more unique feel. But I still like it and their still time.

Roger One: The hilarious misadventures of a battle droid left abandoned and alone after the Clone Wars.