Hmm, since I have no idea how Last Jedi will be, I'll reserve judgement until then. But at least it's not a new trilogy about the Skywalker clan...hopefully they *never* revisit that.

27 minutes ago, whafrog said:

Hmm, since I have no idea how Last Jedi will be, I'll reserve judgement until then. But at least it's not a new trilogy about the Skywalker clan...hopefully they *never* revisit that.

Oh, don't worry, they will. Probably in about 10 - 15 years.

So, who thinks this new trilogy will be set Old Republic era?

4 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Oh, don't worry, they will. Probably in about 10 - 15 years.

So, who thinks this new trilogy will be set Old Republic era?

Seems logical. I would accept Canon as greater than Legends in a heartbeat if it were a trilogy in the Clone Wars with the CIS as clear good guys, though.

Most likely, I would guess, is a coexistent trilogy that still has the main villain be someone under the thumb of the Empire. I certainly don't want KOTOR or anything video game based. When everyone has force powers, then it's not special anymore. I sort of wonder about a simultaneous trilogy that would include a force user like Luke, but that didn't stop them in all the other stuff.

4 hours ago, Yaccarus said:

Seems logical. I would accept Canon as greater than Legends in a heartbeat if it were a trilogy in the Clone Wars with the CIS as clear good guys, though.

The guys who started killing people in order to make more money?

I know this is unlikely, but I hope it will cover original material. A time period or characters unconnected to existing work, legends or otherwise.

Star Wars has a great aesthetic, and I'd love to see some new stories in it.

23 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

The guys who started killing people in order to make more money?

The guys who sought freedom from a tyrannical, corrupt government.

I can understand why the CIS is considered to be "bad guys" by most fans. They are portrayed as such, and sometimes get a little sketchy. Or a lot sketchy. It just doesn't make sense. Most sources (Essential Guide to Propaganda, Essential Guide to Warfare, common sense) point to the CIS as morally good as, if not better, than the Republic. Yet, they're, for some reason, portrayed as evil. It doesn't make sense, and should really be remedied.

This is interesting! I would love to see something in the Old trilogy or gap between episode VI and VII.

And yeah, big fan of the original KOTOR, so I would love to see it on the big screen. You might tell the story in 3 parts: Mandalorian wars, the Purge and the Redemption.

With clone wars, I think the TV show is more than enough (Also, I'm tired of the battles shown in episode II and III. Way to much CGI)

Considering this trilogy is meant to cover stuff we've "never seen before", I doubt it's just going to be an Old Republic thing. We have seen that before, a lot.

Yeah, the Old Republic has had two CRPGs, an MMO, and how many comics? That doesn't seem like an "unexplored quarter".

However, the same call where Iger announced that trilogy, he also announced a live action TV show that will premiere on Disney's new streaming service, probably at the end of 2019. No word (that I've seen, anyways) on what that show will be about - it could be Old Republic, Underworld, or something else entirely.

I think the Old Republic will just confuse the ave Joe Public who is only into the films. I know people who are confused about when Rogue One took place (not hard really...)

I think it needs to take place in the times we know already. I am stoked it is happening!

1 hour ago, Yaccarus said:

The guys who sought freedom from a tyrannical, corrupt government.

I can understand why the CIS is considered to be "bad guys" by most fans. They are portrayed as such, and sometimes get a little sketchy. Or a lot sketchy. It just doesn't make sense. Most sources (Essential Guide to Propaganda, Essential Guide to Warfare, common sense) point to the CIS as morally good as, if not better, than the Republic. Yet, they're, for some reason, portrayed as evil. It doesn't make sense, and should really be remedied.

Having limits to your corporate greed and exploitation isn't tyranny.

Choosing to kill over the pursuit of profit isn't morally defensible.

Publically executing people by feeding them to animals isn't being the good guys.

This is pretty basic stuff.

Until I hear the premise I have no opinion.

Until they release the Last Jedi I'm wondering if this will be Snoke's origin trilogy to mirror Lucas's original idea of his 6 movies being about Anakin?

A bit early isn't it?

The equivalent to Vader's origin would be Kylo's, no?

Kyle Katarn? I would not be opposed to seeing some Dark troopers

10 hours ago, Tom Cruise said:

Considering this trilogy is meant to cover stuff we've "never seen before", I doubt it's just going to be an Old Republic thing. We have seen that before, a lot.

You need to remember that this is from a perspective of someone who's only seen the "canon" stuff.

Ie. the average moviegoer.

Not the people who are heavily into the EU.

So the Old Republic certainly would fall into the area of "stuff we've never seen before".

10 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:

Having limits to your corporate greed and exploitation isn't tyranny.

Choosing to kill over the pursuit of profit isn't morally defensible.

Publically executing people by feeding them to animals isn't being the good guys.

This is pretty basic stuff.

It is tyranny not letting planets have the right to secede. And it also sounds very similar to another sketchy government that we all know about...

Choosing to kill over the pursuit of profit isn't morally dependable: And that's what the Republic does. Keep in mind, the whole war is over the fact that the Republic wants to be able to exploit the planets who have left it, and no longer can.

Not sure what you mean about "Publically executing people by feeding them to animals isn't being the good guys," but that's exactly the kind of thing that needs to be fixed. There is no logical reason for the CIS to do such bad things, and most sources, when summarizing, suggest them as good guys.

6 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

It is tyranny not letting planets have the right to secede.

No it's not. There's nothing inherently tyrannical about a state preserving itself. If there are mistreated minorities or subjugated client states and such involved it's another matter, but a democracy does not have to include the ability for its members to secede to be free of tyranny.

6 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

Choosing to kill over the pursuit of profit isn't morally dependable: And that's what the Republic does. Keep in mind, the whole war is over the fact that the Republic wants to be able to exploit the planets who have left it, and no longer can.

No, the war is over the fact that these planet left illegally, secretly built an illegal army, and used it to attack the Republic. The CIS are traitors.

6 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

Not sure what you mean about "Publically executing people by feeding them to animals isn't being the good guys,"

That's what the CIS tries to do in Attack of the Clones with Anakin, Padmé, and Obi-Wan.

6 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

but that's exactly the kind of thing that needs to be fixed. There is no logical reason for the CIS to do such bad things, and most sources, when summarizing, suggest them as good guys.

Of course there is a reason - much of their leadership is made up of awful, awful people who only care about profit, and the CIS as a whole is about elevating the rights and powers of corporations above those of people. There's nothing to be "fixed" here.

36 minutes ago, OddballE8 said:

You need to remember that this is from a perspective of someone who's only seen the "canon" stuff.

Ie. the average moviegoer.

Not the people who are heavily into the EU.

So the Old Republic certainly would fall into the area of "stuff we've never seen before".

Is it based on the perspective of someone who's only seen canon stuff, though? Seems like a reach to just automatically assume that's the case.

Regardless, judging by the emphasis they placed on the trilogy covering shiny new stuff we haven't seen before, I'd guess that IF they do an Old Republic era story, it's not going to be the adaptation of the videogames that fans have been clamouring for for years. At best it might take a few slight inspirations.

12 hours ago, Stan Fresh said:

The guys who started killing people in order to make more money?

You mean George RR Martin?

1 minute ago, Edgookin said:

You mean George RR Martin?

I didn't know he'd started acting out his fiction in real life.

41 minutes ago, Stan Fresh said:

No it's not. There's nothing inherently tyrannical about a state preserving itself. If there are mistreated minorities or subjugated client states and such involved it's another matter, but a democracy does not have to include the ability for its members to secede to be free of tyranny.

No, the war is over the fact that these planet left illegally, secretly built an illegal army, and used it to attack the Republic. The CIS are traitors.

That's what the CIS tries to do in Attack of the Clones with Anakin, Padmé, and Obi-Wan.

Of course there is a reason - much of their leadership is made up of awful, awful people who only care about profit, and the CIS as a whole is about elevating the rights and powers of corporations above those of people. There's nothing to be "fixed" here.

There are indeed mistreated minorities and subjugated client states.

So you think it's illegal to leave? There you go. Tyranny.

That's what the Geonosians tried to do. They have their traditions, and the CIS respects that. The Jedi were doing illegal espionage, and knew what they were getting into.

The CIS is made up of good Senators who simply want to not be a part of the Republic. Unlike the Republic, they are not ruled by corporations.

4 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

There are indeed mistreated minorities and subjugated client states.

I'm sure they feel that way.

4 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

So you think it's illegal to leave? There you go. Tyranny.

No, you can't just say "there, tyranny". You actually have to build a case for why it would be tyranny that a member state in a federal republic can't leave.

4 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

That's what the Geonosians tried to do. They have their traditions, and the CIS respects that. The Jedi were doing illegal espionage, and knew what they were getting into.

Dooku is the CIS leader, and the Geonosians are part of the CIS, and their leader is part of the CIS leadership council. At that point Geonosis had seceded from the Republic and was just minutes away from open warfare.

You also have no evidence that what the Jedi did was illegal. Never mind there being no trial for them. THAT is tyranny.

4 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

The CIS is made up of good Senators who simply want to not be a part of the Republic.

And the mob is made up of good guys who simply want to not live by the rule of law.

4 minutes ago, Yaccarus said:

Unlike the Republic, they are not ruled by corporations.

Yes, such organization as the Trade Federation and the Intergalactic Banking Clan would never have seats on the CIS council!

I read another article where they said they would be doing a live action show as part of their new streaming service.